Hi Phyllis, I think your concern is the same as others. Soliciting funds is a watershed decision for our project. Done correctly (as IAGenWeb seems to be doing) it may be a good thing. However, what worries me is the prospect of 3000 plus volunteers getting into the $$ business. This can only lead to problems that will tarnish the up-to-now sparkling image that we have. You gave your example of raising money and now I will give mine (i.e. what I could do to get money)-- I host Lincoln Co TNGenWeb, and also am list owner of the Lincoln Co TN distlist. They are separate entities. I could raise money by advertising on the distlist via tag lines or by my direct appeals from the list owner asking for money. The bylaws allow this but that doesn't mean that it should be done. And, what are we SCs to do when our CCs begin to ask if it is ok to solicit? Can each state have its own rules on this? George CT & MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Rippee" <wchs@getgoin.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Soliciting Funds > TIC!!! > > Since ALL of the information on my county site has been placed there by the > Wright County Historical and Genealogical Society, or has been specifically > (in written documents signed, sealed and delivered by snail-mail) "loaned" > to the Society to be placed on line.....only as long as I do the > site........and since the WCH&GS is an incorporated non-profit > organization.............. > > Based on the theory behind Friends of IAGenWeb, would it be acceptable for > me to place a statement soliciting funds for WCH&GS on all of my pages, > except the main one which serves as an index to the others? > > When I first was given the site, I had to promise not to do so.....or > forfeit my first born and then my head. > > Is it now safe to assume that promise is nullified? > > "We hope this information is of help to you. We depend on donations to help > keep our door open and our lights on. We would appreciate any sum you can > send. Wright County Historical Society, P. O. Box 66, Hartville MO 65667" > > Phyllis Rippee > Wright County Historical Society > SW/SC CC Representative USGen Web Project Advisory Board > >

Talk about losing the spirit of volunteering (I'm not talking about Phyllis--just about the concept of soliciting funds). I've devoted countless hours to gathering and transcribing and researching free of charge. Would I love to be paid for it? Of course--and often I do, but not via the USGenWeb project. What I do for USGenWeb is strictly volunteer work. If I don't have the money to get something I want to provide for my users, I point them to the resource and warn them of whatever fees might be involved. My goal is simply to connect them to information they need in their hunt for their ancestors--and to do so free of charge. If I can't provide it myself free of charge, I CAN (free of charge) point them to a resource that they can choose to use or not. Likewise, if there are resources that are free of charge, but not transcribed or available online--I point them there as well. I've attempted to set up volunteer networks of locals willing to go to those places for lookups, but only successful in a few places. It's a volunteer project. If you need money to accomplish it, then go somewhere else. Am I missing something? --Heather Jones DeGeorge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Rippee" <wchs@getgoin.net> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:39:56 -0500 To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [STATE-COORD] Soliciting Funds > TIC!!! > > Since ALL of the information on my county site has been placed there by the > Wright County Historical and Genealogical Society, or has been specifically > (in written documents signed, sealed and delivered by snail-mail) "loaned" > to the Society to be placed on line.....only as long as I do the > site........and since the WCH&GS is an incorporated non-profit > organization.............. > > Based on the theory behind Friends of IAGenWeb, would it be acceptable for > me to place a statement soliciting funds for WCH&GS on all of my pages, > except the main one which serves as an index to the others? > > When I first was given the site, I had to promise not to do so.....or > forfeit my first born and then my head. > > Is it now safe to assume that promise is nullified? > > "We hope this information is of help to you. We depend on donations to help > keep our door open and our lights on. We would appreciate any sum you can > send. Wright County Historical Society, P. O. Box 66, Hartville MO 65667" > > Phyllis Rippee > Wright County Historical Society > SW/SC CC Representative USGen Web Project Advisory Board > -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers

TIC!!! Since ALL of the information on my county site has been placed there by the Wright County Historical and Genealogical Society, or has been specifically (in written documents signed, sealed and delivered by snail-mail) "loaned" to the Society to be placed on line.....only as long as I do the site........and since the WCH&GS is an incorporated non-profit organization.............. Based on the theory behind Friends of IAGenWeb, would it be acceptable for me to place a statement soliciting funds for WCH&GS on all of my pages, except the main one which serves as an index to the others? When I first was given the site, I had to promise not to do so.....or forfeit my first born and then my head. Is it now safe to assume that promise is nullified? "We hope this information is of help to you. We depend on donations to help keep our door open and our lights on. We would appreciate any sum you can send. Wright County Historical Society, P. O. Box 66, Hartville MO 65667" Phyllis Rippee Wright County Historical Society SW/SC CC Representative USGen Web Project Advisory Board

Mr. NC, I believe that your crass comment is uncalled for and I believe that it is wholly improper to make such a statement on this list. It shows your complete and total insensitivity. What you could not know, for you do not know me, is that I am considered to be legally blind. My vision is horrid and is a point of grave distress for me, as it prevents me from being able to do normal activities, such as driving, because it is not correctable to anywhere near 20/20, let alone 20/50. To tell me or any member of this Project that I need an eye exam is absolutely unforgiveable. Richard Pettys, Jr. ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Isaiah Harrison <IsaiahH@cox.net> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:00:05 -0700 Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? > At 11:45 AM 8/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Thank you for the link. > > > >I note that Friends of IAGenWeb is hosted on the IAGenWeb.org servers. Where > >they do not have their own domain, how can you call them separate and > >distinct? I personally see this is a serious issue and a problem. I see it > >is a breach of our by-laws and I see it as being against the core purpose of > >our existence as an organization. > > > >Richard Pettys. > > You may need an eye exam, if that's what you see. ;=} > > Would you please cite the specific bylaw that is being violated. > > -Isaiah ------- End of Original Message -------

At 09:50 AM 8/20/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Mr. NC, > >I believe that your crass comment is uncalled for and I believe that it is >wholly improper to make such a statement on this list. It shows your >complete and total insensitivity. What you could not know, for you do not >know me, is that I am considered to be legally blind. My vision is horrid >and is a point of grave distress for me, as it prevents me from being able to >do normal activities, such as driving, because it is not correctable to >anywhere near 20/20, let alone 20/50. To tell me or any member of this >Project that I need an eye exam is absolutely unforgiveable. > >Richard Pettys, Jr. You are correct when you say 'What you could not know, for you do not know me." If I had been aware of your condition I certainly would not have made the remark. However, you did make the statement "I see it is a breach of our by-laws..." and I asked the question "Would you please cite the specific bylaw that is being violated." You have not yet answered the question. -Isaiah

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WOW! Surname helper will still be available. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaiah Harrison" <IsaiahH@cox.net> To: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 1:04 AM Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? > At 01:19 AM 8/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Richard, > > > >The link that you sent actually goes to the USGWP "non-permission" page. > >With all due respect, and knowing that what goes on in Iowa is not really my > >affair, I would like to see these proposed budgets, since you offered to show > >them. > > > >Of course, and the budgets won't change my mind on this, I have concerns with > >this, as have been expressed by others. My main concern is that we advertise > >USGWP and its member state porjects as being "free", and yet, Iowa is, > >through a "separate and distinct entity" seeking to solicit funds to pay for > >server space, offset microfiche rental fees, copy costs and things of that > >nature. However, and this is the most interesting part, no monies go to the > >individual CC's who are doing the transcription. To whom does this money go? > > IAGenWeb doe offer free genealogy information on Internet--as much or more > than any other state project in USGenWeb. However, free genealogy > information is not free. There are real costs involved in presenting it to > the public. Different stat organizations within The USGenWeb Project have > found different solutions o the question "Who is going to pay for this > "Free" service? On state found the taxpayers willing to foot the bill. > Another state found a "sugar daddy" to support their project. Other states > have relied on the free space now available from various sources. Iowa > decided to develop its own server space. > > >I think that really flies in the face of the USGWP. I think it is the exact > >opposite of our stated purpose. I have serious problems with this, and am > >concerned that we may soon see a Friends of the USGWP wherein we are all > >forced to place a donation center on our pages. And then we are only > >marginally better than the societies who try to control the data for their > >own use and benefit. > > > >Richard Pettys > >Second ASC - GAGenWeb > > Your fears are totally unfounded. What IAGenWeb does is IAGenWeb's > business. IAGenWeb, like any other state project, has the responsibility to > find a way for its information to be presented on the Internet. We choose > independent self-sufficiency. This will be a boon to all members of the > USGenWeb Project. > > For example. RootsWeb recently determined they could no longer support > server space for Surname Helper and would discontinue support within a few > days. IAGenWeb stepped in to say they would take on the task. the transfer > is in progress and RootsWeb has agreed to continue to support the program > until IAGenWeb can take over. IAGenWeb will offer this prrogram at no cost > to whoever wants to use it. This is how the monies are being used. > > Your unfounded suspicions are just that--unfounded suspicions. > > -Isaiah > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003

The Friends of Iowa would like you to look at this web page for their statement. http://iagenweb.org/state/friends_of_iagenweb/friendsofiagenweb.htm The financials for The Friends of Iowa can be viewed at this web site. http://iagenweb.org/state/friends_of_iagenweb/ Gail Meyer Kilgore Iowa State Coordinator IAGenWeb: http://iagenweb.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 07/24/2003

Thank you for the link. I note that Friends of IAGenWeb is hosted on the IAGenWeb.org servers. Where they do not have their own domain, how can you call them separate and distinct? I personally see this is a serious issue and a problem. I see it is a breach of our by-laws and I see it as being against the core purpose of our existence as an organization. Richard Pettys. ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Isaiah Harrison <IsaiahH@cox.net> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:32:53 -0700 Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? > At 07:54 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, Isaiah Harrison wrote: > >At 10:22 PM 8/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >>To further what Jan said, I also wonder who gets paid what amounts for > >>research and data online? How much of the money collected by Friends of > >>IAGenWeb actually makes it to the CC's to help offset these costs? Is it > >>based on need? Is it based on the volume of data? Is it based on some > >>identified criterion? Is a request made? Is there accountability for these > >>monies? Is this information made available? > >> > >>Lots of questions here. Are there any answers? > >> > >>Richard Pettys, Jr. > > Sorry about that--the danger of having too many pages open at once. > This link should get you there. http://iagenweb.org/state/friends_of_iagenweb/budget.htm ------- End of Original Message -------

Dear List Wrangler, Could you all please remove ncole@coffey.com from this list and add Mari Mari Byers <keyofbflat@comcast.net> After she is on the list you all might want to give a welcome to Mari, the quite wonderful new TNGenWeb State Coordinator. Thank you, Nancy Cole, the old and tired previous TNGenWeb Coordinator

At 11:45 AM 8/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Thank you for the link. > >I note that Friends of IAGenWeb is hosted on the IAGenWeb.org servers. Where >they do not have their own domain, how can you call them separate and >distinct? I personally see this is a serious issue and a problem. I see it >is a breach of our by-laws and I see it as being against the core purpose of >our existence as an organization. > >Richard Pettys. You may need an eye exam, if that's what you see. ;=} Would you please cite the specific bylaw that is being violated. -Isaiah

Richard, The link that you sent actually goes to the USGWP "non-permission" page. With all due respect, and knowing that what goes on in Iowa is not really my affair, I would like to see these proposed budgets, since you offered to show them. Of course, and the budgets won't change my mind on this, I have concerns with this, as have been expressed by others. My main concern is that we advertise USGWP and its member state porjects as being "free", and yet, Iowa is, through a "separate and distinct entity" seeking to solicit funds to pay for server space, offset microfiche rental fees, copy costs and things of that nature. However, and this is the most interesting part, no monies go to the individual CC's who are doing the transcription. To whom does this money go? I think that really flies in the face of the USGWP. I think it is the exact opposite of our stated purpose. I have serious problems with this, and am concerned that we may soon see a Friends of the USGWP wherein we are all forced to place a donation center on our pages. And then we are only marginally better than the societies who try to control the data for their own use and benefit. Richard Pettys Second ASC - GAGenWeb ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Isaiah Harrison <IsaiahH@cox.net> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:26 -0700 Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? > At 10:22 PM 8/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >To further what Jan said, I also wonder who gets paid what amounts for > >research and data online? How much of the money collected by Friends of > >IAGenWeb actually makes it to the CC's to help offset these costs? Is it > >based on need? Is it based on the volume of data? Is it based on some > >identified criterion? Is a request made? Is there accountability for these > >monies? Is this information made available? > > > >Lots of questions here. Are there any answers? > > > >Richard Pettys, Jr. > > The funds collected by the Friends have gone to pay for server space, > for the script to run our queries program, for the costs of > incorporation and obtaining non-profit status. Some projected > budgets are posted at http://www.usgenweb.com/volunteers/authorno.html > > No monies are provided to individual CCs. > > All people who donate to Friends of IAGenWeb are considered > "members" of Friends of IAGenWeb and are provided with complete > financial information. > > -Isaiah ------- End of Original Message -------

See how the story balloons.... offset microfiche rental fees, copy costs and things of that nature...... no one in IA said any money brought in by the Friends of Iowa was for any other nature than to pay for the server costs and any other expenditures that the server/program may need. There has NEVER been anything else mentioned except the server which we just had to move to another server because we needed more space and the move will save us $$ in the long run. Down the road we would like to buy our own server for the use of IAGenWeb but that is not visible right now. Our main goal is getting our 501-C status and this is a virtual first. There are attorney fees for the Incorporation and filing of the 501-C status. If you look at the books you should be able to see that the expenses that The Friends of Iowa have versa the amount of donations from it's members far exceeds what has been donated. You should also see that there is a loan there that has not been paid. These remarks of members stuffing their pockets is so outrageous that I am ROTFL at anyone who knows anything about a 501-C status knows where the donated money goes and it is not into the pockets of the members. The Friends of Iowa are volunteers, just like the CC's of the states. As a member of the Friends of Iowa and also an officer, the last thing that ever crossed my mind was my pocket, I am worried more where the next $$ is coming from to pay for the server. I guess there are people out there that do worry about their pocket and maybe that is why they have more than I do but I know that what I am doing is helping a lot of researchers find their lines by GIVING of my time and money for a cause that I support, my money $50.00, a donation to laugh at. Any of the other costs that you mentioned are still being paid for by the CC's in the IAGenWeb and their volunteers just like in another state. The Friends of Iowa is only the server which is the home to the IAGenWeb. Gail Meyer Kilgore Iowa State Coordinator IAGenWeb: http://iagenweb.org ----- Original Message ----- From: mannannan To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? Richard, The link that you sent actually goes to the USGWP "non-permission" page. With all due respect, and knowing that what goes on in Iowa is not really my affair, I would like to see these proposed budgets, since you offered to show them. Of course, and the budgets won't change my mind on this, I have concerns with this, as have been expressed by others. My main concern is that we advertise USGWP and its member state porjects as being "free", and yet, Iowa is, through a "separate and distinct entity" seeking to solicit funds to pay for server space, offset microfiche rental fees, copy costs and things of that nature. However, and this is the most interesting part, no monies go to the individual CC's who are doing the transcription. To whom does this money go? I think that really flies in the face of the USGWP. I think it is the exact opposite of our stated purpose. I have serious problems with this, and am concerned that we may soon see a Friends of the USGWP wherein we are all forced to place a donation center on our pages. And then we are only marginally better than the societies who try to control the data for their own use and benefit. Richard Pettys Second ASC - GAGenWeb ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Isaiah Harrison <IsaiahH@cox.net> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:54:26 -0700 Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? > At 10:22 PM 8/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >To further what Jan said, I also wonder who gets paid what amounts for > >research and data online? How much of the money collected by Friends of > >IAGenWeb actually makes it to the CC's to help offset these costs? Is it > >based on need? Is it based on the volume of data? Is it based on some > >identified criterion? Is a request made? Is there accountability for these > >monies? Is this information made available? > > > >Lots of questions here. Are there any answers? > > > >Richard Pettys, Jr. > > The funds collected by the Friends have gone to pay for server space, > for the script to run our queries program, for the costs of > incorporation and obtaining non-profit status. Some projected > budgets are posted at http://www.usgenweb.com/volunteers/authorno.html > > No monies are provided to individual CCs. > > All people who donate to Friends of IAGenWeb are considered > "members" of Friends of IAGenWeb and are provided with complete > financial information. > > -Isaiah ------- End of Original Message ------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 07/24/2003

At 01:19 AM 8/19/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Richard, > >The link that you sent actually goes to the USGWP "non-permission" page. >With all due respect, and knowing that what goes on in Iowa is not really my >affair, I would like to see these proposed budgets, since you offered to show >them. > >Of course, and the budgets won't change my mind on this, I have concerns with >this, as have been expressed by others. My main concern is that we advertise >USGWP and its member state porjects as being "free", and yet, Iowa is, >through a "separate and distinct entity" seeking to solicit funds to pay for >server space, offset microfiche rental fees, copy costs and things of that >nature. However, and this is the most interesting part, no monies go to the >individual CC's who are doing the transcription. To whom does this money go? IAGenWeb doe offer free genealogy information on Internet--as much or more than any other state project in USGenWeb. However, free genealogy information is not free. There are real costs involved in presenting it to the public. Different stat organizations within The USGenWeb Project have found different solutions o the question "Who is going to pay for this "Free" service? On state found the taxpayers willing to foot the bill. Another state found a "sugar daddy" to support their project. Other states have relied on the free space now available from various sources. Iowa decided to develop its own server space. >I think that really flies in the face of the USGWP. I think it is the exact >opposite of our stated purpose. I have serious problems with this, and am >concerned that we may soon see a Friends of the USGWP wherein we are all >forced to place a donation center on our pages. And then we are only >marginally better than the societies who try to control the data for their >own use and benefit. > >Richard Pettys >Second ASC - GAGenWeb Your fears are totally unfounded. What IAGenWeb does is IAGenWeb's business. IAGenWeb, like any other state project, has the responsibility to find a way for its information to be presented on the Internet. We choose independent self-sufficiency. This will be a boon to all members of the USGenWeb Project. For example. RootsWeb recently determined they could no longer support server space for Surname Helper and would discontinue support within a few days. IAGenWeb stepped in to say they would take on the task. the transfer is in progress and RootsWeb has agreed to continue to support the program until IAGenWeb can take over. IAGenWeb will offer this prrogram at no cost to whoever wants to use it. This is how the monies are being used. Your unfounded suspicions are just that--unfounded suspicions. -Isaiah

At 07:54 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, Isaiah Harrison wrote: >At 10:22 PM 8/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>To further what Jan said, I also wonder who gets paid what amounts for >>research and data online? How much of the money collected by Friends of >>IAGenWeb actually makes it to the CC's to help offset these costs? Is it >>based on need? Is it based on the volume of data? Is it based on some >>identified criterion? Is a request made? Is there accountability for these >>monies? Is this information made available? >> >>Lots of questions here. Are there any answers? >> >>Richard Pettys, Jr. Sorry about that--the danger of having too many pages open at once. This link should get you there. http://iagenweb.org/state/friends_of_iagenweb/budget.htm

To further what Jan said, I also wonder who gets paid what amounts for research and data online? How much of the money collected by Friends of IAGenWeb actually makes it to the CC's to help offset these costs? Is it based on need? Is it based on the volume of data? Is it based on some identified criterion? Is a request made? Is there accountability for these monies? Is this information made available? Lots of questions here. Are there any answers? Richard Pettys, Jr. ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Jan & Glenn" <cristian@netonecom.net> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 18:58:51 -0400 Subject: Re: RE: [STATE-COORD] Mr National Coordinator if you would please answer a few? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joan Brausch <brauschj@earthlink.net> > > > I personally am upset that some CCs are soliciting ANY kinds of funds! As > Kimm mentioned, from the beginning, we have advertised ourselves as > providing FREE genealogical help and information. > > > > Joan Brausch > > ASC MIGenWeb > > ***********************REPLY SEPARATOR************************** > > I think we were there years back, Joan! Glad it's over. <grin> > > In response to Rich Howland's one post, where he questions what's > next - I would have to say that Friends of IAGenWeb sets a very bad > precedent, in that, could I, or anyone else for that matter then > establish a Friends of Mecosta Co., MIGenWeb site and solicit > donations for more materials to go online. Funds to offset copies, > books, transportation, phone calls, etc? Or should I wish to place > this site on my own domain, then solicit for cost of the server space? > > This is not my intention, but, wouldn't it be basically the same thing? > > Jan Cortez > SC MIGenWeb ------- End of Original Message -------

Some time ago I received a message from a visitor who was greatly impressed with the census transcriptions on my county website. She said she did not have time to participate in transcribing the census, but she would like to make a small donation of money to the project. It just so happens that several days before one of the transcribers mentioned in passing that it was taking longer to get the job done because of the strain on his budget, paying or the film rental and photo copies. I sent her his address and she sent a small donation. It got me to thinking that there might be other people in her boat. People who appreciated the effort of the transcribers, but who couldn't participate because of other circumstances and who would be happy to make small donations of money they did have in lieu of spending time they didn't have. I added as mall notice to the census index page on my website "Do you find these census transcriptions useful? Would you like to participate by transcribing a township from one of the censuses? If you can't spare the time, would you like to make a financial contribution to offset film rental and photocopying costs? Become a player on the Jones county team! Contact Richard at IowaJones@cox.net" This notice has been posted for over a year, but to date there have been no responses. So when people talk about CCs soliciting for funds on their county sites, I say "Good luck, I hope you do better than I did." My experience is that it is not a practical funding solution for our project. -Isaiah

At 06:12 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, Isaiah wrote: >At 06:27 PM 8/18/2003 -0500, Ellen Pack wrote: > >>Perception is important, and something about the way Friends is presented >>is disturbing to me. Maybe just a few changes would do the trick. :-) >> >>Ellen >>MS > >The IAGenWeb Project and the Friends of IAGenWeb are two different >entities. I agree the distinction needs to be made clearer on the websites. I think that would go a long way to relieving minds, at least my own. RW, for example. We link to it, usually using their own logo. When you click on the link you don't arrive at a page that looks like the one you just left, and you don't see our logo on their pages. You're also in an entirely different domain. Some visitors still erroneously equate RW with USGW, but at least there's a clear visual distinction in place. >Friends of IAGenWeb is currently involved, with the help of our attorney >and our accountant, in preparing incorporation papers as a non-profit and >will apply for not for profit status. > >I do want to assure everyone that the IAGenWeb Project is now and intends >to continue to be a self-supporting organization providing free access to >genealogical materials on the Internet. I never doubted that. >Friends of IAGenWeb was created to raise funds for this purpose. We >certainly will do this in a solidly legal manner. We have also attempted >to do this in a manner consistent with the bylaws of The USGenWeb Project. >Of course, if the bylaws change, we will have to review our procedures. Thanks! Ellen

Gail - It seems so trite to say, I am sorry for your loss when I don't know you at all. However, My thoughts and prayers are with you - it is always difficult to lose a loved one - especially hard when you can't get home to say goodbye. Hugs, R/S MAK ASC WI ===== MAKTranscriber - http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiwood http://www.rootsweb.com/~wiportag http://www.rootsweb.com/~wimonroe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

I don't think we want to go anywhere near this. Too much trouble. I would rather have volunteers transcribe the microfiche, maybe a page at a time. > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Fisher [mailto:sdgenweb@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:32 PM > To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STATE-COORD] Soliciting Funds > > > I thought this went to the list, but I see it only > went to Shari. > > ======forwarded message=========== > > Waaaay back, we had CCs collecting to buy materials > such as microfilm. > > The CCs vanished and so did the money. > > If we are going to go on a fund raising binge, we need > to have a trust fund set up where the CCs do not get > the money directly - and a financial officer to dole > out the money -- and an auditor to make sure the > financial officer does his/her job. Both should be > bonded as well. > > --- Shari Handley <shari@tyaskin.com> wrote: > > The Bylaws Revision Committee's proposed amended > > section about > > solicitation of funds will, if passed, take care of > > this question that > > has been raised about soliciting donations to pay > > for server space (or > > anything else). Here's how the revised version > > goes: > > <snip> > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.510 / Virus Database: 307 - Release Date: 8/14/2003