I don't know if I am having the same problem as the rest of you. I have 2 counties on "theusgenweb.org" domain. As of Aug 4 I have been unable to access the files for either county. I have received no information from anyone. Emails to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) have not been answered. The error message I am getting is: User name and password are incorrect Any suggestions? Susan Nahas SC RIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/

Susan, I will look into the issue and contact you privately with the solution. Our host recently moved our pages and all of the ftp accounts have had to be deleted and recreated. I suspect that is what affecting your accounts. If others are having the same issue please contact me privately, and I will assist in getting this task done. Thanks! Tina [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] no longer have access to files >I don't know if I am having the same problem as the rest of you. I have 2 > counties on "theusgenweb.org" domain. As of Aug 4 I have been unable to > access the files for either county. I have received no information from > anyone. Emails to [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) have not been answered. > > The error message I am getting is: > User name and password are incorrect > > Any suggestions? > > Susan Nahas > SC RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have CC's in CO that are having the same problems. They can't get to their counties. Gail On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know if I am having the same problem as the rest of you. I have 2 > counties on "theusgenweb.org" domain. As of Aug 4 I have been unable to > access the files for either county. I have received no information from > anyone. Emails to [email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) have not been answered. > > The error message I am getting is: > User name and password are incorrect > > Any suggestions? > > Susan Nahas > SC RIGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~rigenweb/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I CC a county next to South Dakota and updating it. I needed a boarding SD county. So I went here. _http://www.usgenweb.org/_ (http://www.usgenweb.org/) Which gives this for South Dakota. _http://sdgenweb.com/_ (http://sdgenweb.com/) which goes here _http://usgenweb.org/_ (http://usgenweb.org/) So SD is down until a new host is found? Michael Andrews ASC Minnesota

I've been hammered this way several times, and for that reason I use EveryDNS (http://www.everydns.net) to do my own DNS rather than leave that to the web host provider. It's priced right - free. And it's got a simple web interface that doesn't required high tech knowledge. It's also hosted in four independent locations (including one in Europe) that ensures quick DNS resolution, whereever your visitor is coming from. It does mean you have to update the IP addresses yourself if your host is ever moved but I'd rather do that than have the provider mess it up about half the time. Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Fisher" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:22 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits - South Dakota > The web hosting service has screwed something up when they migrated my > account to a new server. They are working on the problem. > > Even using the IP address returns usgenweb.org <very loong sigh> > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits - South Dakota >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:20 AM >> I CC a county next to South Dakota >> and updating it. I needed a boarding SD >> county. So I went here. >> _http://www.usgenweb.org/_ (http://www.usgenweb.org/) >> Which gives this for South Dakota. >> _http://sdgenweb.com/_ (http://sdgenweb.com/) >> which goes here >> _http://usgenweb.org/_ (http://usgenweb.org/) >> So SD is down until a new host is found? >> >> Michael Andrews >> ASC Minnesota >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Like any business, they did the number crunching. They looked at what clients are costing them money. I bet they hope to lose those clients to competitors. Those hosting companies claiming unlimited are just using it to get clients in their door. I bet the same will happen with another host. Time will tell. Another article on Bluehost.com _http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/20/stars-in-your-pocket-for-free/_ (http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/20/stars-in-your-pocket-for-free/) Michael Andrews ASC Minnesota I too share your disappointment and have warned Larry Flesher that we may hit the same problem in MOGENWEB. I've also attempted to let the Bluehost president know of the problem and impact of this new unadvertised policy. Time will only tell if I really got through. If the policy remains the same, it's going to cost them literally hundreds of accounts in the world of genealogy. I suspect a similar impact will occur in other areas. And if they don't get that limit posted for new users, I will feel impelled to stop recommending them. I am looking at other hosting options in preparation for a potential move of MOGENWEB. IDGENWEB appears to currently be well within the limit. I'd greatly appreciate hearing from other states about their experience with other hosts. And by the way, this does break my heart because I've been a long time Bluehost user and have a good number of accounts. The performance, features and service have been great. I can't say the same about half a dozen other vendors I used before. It's been somewhat like rolling the dice before I came to Bluehost. There were massive downsides on every vendor I had used. Mike St. Clair SC - IDGENWEB

It looks like a DNS problem. I've reported it to national and to the SD State Coordinator. Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:20 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits - South Dakota > I CC a county next to South Dakota and updating it. I needed a boarding > SD > county. So I went here. > _http://www.usgenweb.org/_ (http://www.usgenweb.org/) > Which gives this for South Dakota. > _http://sdgenweb.com/_ (http://sdgenweb.com/) > which goes here > _http://usgenweb.org/_ (http://usgenweb.org/) > So SD is down until a new host is found? > > Michael Andrews > ASC Minnesota > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The web hosting service has screwed something up when they migrated my account to a new server. They are working on the problem. Even using the IP address returns usgenweb.org <very loong sigh> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits - South Dakota > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:20 AM > I CC a county next to South Dakota > and updating it.  I needed a boarding SD > county.  So I went here. > _http://www.usgenweb.org/_ (http://www.usgenweb.org/) > Which gives this for South Dakota. > _http://sdgenweb.com/_ (http://sdgenweb.com/) > which goes here > _http://usgenweb.org/_ (http://usgenweb.org/) > So SD is down until a new host is found? > > Michael Andrews > ASC Minnesota > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

It's not the dozen or few dozen state GENWEBs that will hurt them if lost. It's all the personal accounts of genealogists who are coordinators or visitors of USGENWEB. For example, I have four Bluehost sites, only one of which exceeds the file count limit. I also know of at least a dozen folks who have gotten accounts there because of my good experience. If MOGENWEB moves because of this issue I'll likely move my other accounts as well to allow me some consistency in my administration. So it's a leveraged thing. Multiply the genwebs that move by some number of CCs and genealogy users by some number of accounts and I think it's a bad thing for Bluehost. I believe the law of averages does indeed give them a reasonable account target size within a general demographic (like genealogy) even though there are a few that are outsized. They absolutely have the right, but they didn't implement this in the manner that I see them make most changes - that is, with reasonable notice and usually grandfathering existing users. They still have not, at this point, documented that restriction anywhere online that prospective account holders will know about it before they exceed the limit and are abruptly given two weeks to comply. That's not typically of the way they have handled changes in the past and that's one reason for their tremendous growth. They have always taken care of their customers, and that makes their reputation grow. This has not been the norm for Bluehost. Market analysis can't assume every individual account is totally independent. And you have to treat your customers right or the word gets out. Pretty much all of the big hosting suppliers now provide "unlimited" disk space, which has become very cheap to supply, but those who have limits on the number of files (a good many) provide that number to prospective clients. Mike -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 11:03 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits > > Like any business, they did the number crunching. They looked at what > clients are costing them money. I bet they hope to lose those clients to > competitors. Those hosting companies claiming unlimited are just using it > to get > clients in their door. I bet the same will happen with another host. > Time > will tell. > > Another article on Bluehost.com > _http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/20/stars-in-your-pocket-for-free/_ > (http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/20/stars-in-your-pocket-for-free/) > > Michael Andrews > ASC Minnesota > > I too share your disappointment and have warned Larry Flesher that we may > hit the same problem in MOGENWEB. I've also attempted to let the Bluehost > president know of the problem and impact of this new unadvertised policy. > Time will only tell if I really got through. If the policy remains the > same, it's going to cost them literally hundreds of accounts in the world > of > genealogy. I suspect a similar impact will occur in other areas. And if > they don't get that limit posted for new users, I will feel impelled to > stop > recommending them. > > I am looking at other hosting options in preparation for a potential move > of > MOGENWEB. IDGENWEB appears to currently be well within the limit. > > I'd greatly appreciate hearing from other states about their experience > with > other hosts. > > And by the way, this does break my heart because I've been a long time > Bluehost user and have a good number of accounts. The performance, > features > and service have been great. I can't say the same about half a dozen > other > vendors I used before. It's been somewhat like rolling the dice before I > came to Bluehost. There were massive downsides on every vendor I had > used. > > Mike St. Clair > SC - IDGENWEB > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Web servers have limited capacity. Any host who says that they can give you "unlimited web space" is intentionally misleading you. And somewhere in their terms of service they will specify limits on the amount of space you can use on their servers. The average website is well under 100mb in size. The "unlimited space" hosts bank on these sites charging them more than they need to pay for their small usage. When someone like USGenWeb comes along with needs of gigabytes of space, it throws their entire business plan into chaos. And if you leave and go elsewhere, they are pleased. They will continue hosting the small sites, charging them more than they need to pay. Losing genealogy sites would not upset an "unlimited space" host because it costs them substantially more to provide the hosting services than they would be receiving from the customer. Dale Grimm OHGenWeb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike St. Clair/ST Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits I too share your disappointment and have warned Larry Flesher that we may hit the same problem in MOGENWEB. I've also attempted to let the Bluehost president know of the problem and impact of this new unadvertised policy. Time will only tell if I really got through. If the policy remains the same, it's going to cost them literally hundreds of accounts in the world of genealogy. I suspect a similar impact will occur in other areas. And if they don't get that limit posted for new users, I will feel impelled to stop recommending them. I am looking at other hosting options in preparation for a potential move of MOGENWEB. IDGENWEB appears to currently be well within the limit. I'd greatly appreciate hearing from other states about their experience with other hosts. And by the way, this does break my heart because I've been a long time Bluehost user and have a good number of accounts. The performance, features and service have been great. I can't say the same about half a dozen other vendors I used before. It's been somewhat like rolling the dice before I came to Bluehost. There were massive downsides on every vendor I had used. Mike St. Clair SC - IDGENWEB -------------------------------------------------- From: "Debby Beheler" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:20 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits > On Tuesday, we were informed that our account at BlueHost.com was over > their (heretofore unheard of) file limit of 50,000 at a whopping > 202370. I believe I have found a workable solution that we can pay > for through donations from our CCs. Over half the Indiana Counties > are sharing the ingenweb.org domain. > > > > We are currently moving to DreamHost.com with a much higher file limit > and the ability to upgrade to VPS for $218. more per year. > > > > Are other states having these issues as well? > > > > Some of you may want to be aware of this for future reference. > > > > Debby Beheler > > [email protected] > > State Coordinator INGenWeb Project > > http://www.ingenweb.org > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried Powweb.com? I've been very satisfied with them. UNLIMITED Disk Space UNLIMITED Data Transfer FREE Domain Host Unlimited Domains MySQL, PHP, CGI SSL, FTP, Stats Point & Click Site Builder $75 in Yahoo & Google Ads Credits E-Commerce Included FrontPage/Dreamweaver ready 30-Day Money-Back Guarantee GREAT customer service and a lot of different free add-ons. About HALF what you're talking about. M On Tuesday, we were informed that our account at BlueHost.com was over their (heretofore unheard of) file limit of 50,000 at a whopping 202370. I believe I have found a workable solution that we can pay for through donations from our CCs. Over half the Indiana Counties are sharing the ingenweb.org domain. We are currently moving to DreamHost.com with a much higher file limit and the ability to upgrade to VPS for $218. more per year. Are other states having these issues as well? Some of you may want to be aware of this for future reference. Debby Beheler [email protected] State Coordinator INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org ?Maureen Mead SC CTGenWeb: ctgenweb.org CC Fairfield Co. CT: ctgenweb.org/county/cofairfield [email protected] ----

I too share your disappointment and have warned Larry Flesher that we may hit the same problem in MOGENWEB. I've also attempted to let the Bluehost president know of the problem and impact of this new unadvertised policy. Time will only tell if I really got through. If the policy remains the same, it's going to cost them literally hundreds of accounts in the world of genealogy. I suspect a similar impact will occur in other areas. And if they don't get that limit posted for new users, I will feel impelled to stop recommending them. I am looking at other hosting options in preparation for a potential move of MOGENWEB. IDGENWEB appears to currently be well within the limit. I'd greatly appreciate hearing from other states about their experience with other hosts. And by the way, this does break my heart because I've been a long time Bluehost user and have a good number of accounts. The performance, features and service have been great. I can't say the same about half a dozen other vendors I used before. It's been somewhat like rolling the dice before I came to Bluehost. There were massive downsides on every vendor I had used. Mike St. Clair SC - IDGENWEB -------------------------------------------------- From: "Debby Beheler" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:20 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits > On Tuesday, we were informed that our account at BlueHost.com was over > their > (heretofore unheard of) file limit of 50,000 at a whopping 202370. I > believe I have found a workable solution that we can pay for through > donations from our CCs. Over half the Indiana Counties are sharing the > ingenweb.org domain. > > > > We are currently moving to DreamHost.com with a much higher file limit and > the ability to upgrade to VPS for $218. more per year. > > > > Are other states having these issues as well? > > > > Some of you may want to be aware of this for future reference. > > > > Debby Beheler > > [email protected] > > State Coordinator INGenWeb Project > > http://www.ingenweb.org > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You may want to check out Active Web Hosting. http://www.activewebhosting.com/ Several of the PAGenWeb sites are there as sub accounts to the PA state pages. Mention my name!! I may get a free month........!! Reasonable price, 99.5+% availability. NO file limit or GB either. Anyh questions let me know. Joe Patterson PAGenWeb On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Sherri wrote: > > I was thoroughly disappointed in BlueHost.com's change in policy and > the > fact that this little 'hiccup'suddenly appeared and no one knew > about it - > and it's not written ANYWHERE for an account holder to be aware of. > > Sherri

Yes, we had the same thing happen to us in NCGenWeb. They told us we were over the limit as well (File Count: 235189) so we ended up buying 2 other accounts and moved the cemeteries, census records, deeds, etc over to the new accounts. It was a huge pain since we have transcribed complete deed books and census records for quite a few counties online along with 100's of cemeteries on a number of sites. We are very disappointed in them over this as well. I couldn't find anything in their policies that states they have a file limit when we first started using their services. If we had known we would have gone elsewhere. Diane  NCGenWeb SC NCGenWeb CC NCGenWeb Special Projects -------Original Message------- From: Debby Beheler Date: 8/13/2009 10:21:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits On Tuesday, we were informed that our account at BlueHost.com was over their (heretofore unheard of) file limit of 50,000 at a whopping 202370. I Believe I have found a workable solution that we can pay for through Donations from our CCs. Over half the Indiana Counties are sharing the Ingenweb.org domain. We are currently moving to DreamHost.com with a much higher file limit and The ability to upgrade to VPS for $218. More per year. Are other states having these issues as well? Some of you may want to be aware of this for future reference. Debby Beheler [email protected] State Coordinator INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.54/2300 - Release Date: 08/13/09 06:11:00

Debbie, I got my first notice about 3 months ago for one account that I have there. It had over 308,000 files on it. I got the notice for the second account about a month ago - we had about 248,000 files on that account. We deleted hundreds of thousands of files from the first account and still have it there (but I'm not happy with it), and the second account I moved to ixwebhosting.com about 3 weeks ago. The first account is a KY Special Project site (KY Vital Records Project at http://kyvitals.com/. The second account started out as a personal account, but it houses about 1/2 of the KYGenWeb County sites and also will soon once again house the http://kygenweb.net domain (KYGenWeb Project). So far, no problems with ixwebhosting. I was thoroughly disappointed in BlueHost.com's change in policy and the fact that this little 'hiccup'suddenly appeared and no one knew about it - and it's not written ANYWHERE for an account holder to be aware of. Sherri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Beheler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:20 PM Subject: [STATE-COORD] Hosting plans & file limits > On Tuesday, we were informed that our account at BlueHost.com was over > their > (heretofore unheard of) file limit of 50,000 at a whopping 202370. I > believe I have found a workable solution that we can pay for through > donations from our CCs. Over half the Indiana Counties are sharing the > ingenweb.org domain. > > > > We are currently moving to DreamHost.com with a much higher file limit and > the ability to upgrade to VPS for $218. more per year. > > > > Are other states having these issues as well? > > > > Some of you may want to be aware of this for future reference. > > > > Debby Beheler > > [email protected] > > State Coordinator INGenWeb Project > > http://www.ingenweb.org > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tuesday, we were informed that our account at BlueHost.com was over their (heretofore unheard of) file limit of 50,000 at a whopping 202370. I believe I have found a workable solution that we can pay for through donations from our CCs. Over half the Indiana Counties are sharing the ingenweb.org domain. We are currently moving to DreamHost.com with a much higher file limit and the ability to upgrade to VPS for $218. more per year. Are other states having these issues as well? Some of you may want to be aware of this for future reference. Debby Beheler [email protected] State Coordinator INGenWeb Project http://www.ingenweb.org

Thanks, Maureen. Vivian At 12:26 PM 8/9/2009, you wrote: >Vivian and Linda, > > > > >CTGenWeb sends best wishes to you both and to GAGenWeb! > > > > > > > >?Maureen Mead >SC CTGenWeb: ctgenweb.org >CC Fairfield Co. CT: ctgenweb.org/county/cofairfield >[email protected] > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Deb <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2009 12:34 pm >Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Congratulations > > > > > > > > >Linda & Vivian, > >Congrats to both of you!! > >Deb >ILGenWeb > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vivian and Linda, CTGenWeb sends best wishes to you both and to GAGenWeb! ?Maureen Mead SC CTGenWeb: ctgenweb.org CC Fairfield Co. CT: ctgenweb.org/county/cofairfield [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Deb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2009 12:34 pm Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Congratulations Linda & Vivian, Congrats to both of you!! Deb ILGenWeb

-----Original Message----- From: Deb <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, Aug 8, 2009 3:34 pm Subject: Re: [STATE-COORD] Congratulations Linda & Vivian, Congrats to both of you!! Deb ILGenWeb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Barton Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [STATE-COORD] Congratulations I have only received one message from the state-coord list since I received my subscription message last Tuesday but I have read the archives for the week and wanted to thank Sherri, Larry, Annie, Jeff, Diane and Les for the well wishes! I'd like to thank Vivian for the appointment also. I look forward to working with her for the benefit of GAGenWeb. Linda B. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Congrats! Linda!!!! and also to Vivian. Denise NJGenWeb

Thanks, Deb. Vivian At 03:34 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: >Linda & Vivian, > >Congrats to both of you!! > >Deb >ILGenWeb > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda Barton >Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:21 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [STATE-COORD] Congratulations > >I have only received one message from the state-coord list since I received >my subscription message last Tuesday but I have read the archives for the >week and wanted to thank Sherri, Larry, Annie, Jeff, Diane and Les for the >well wishes! > >I'd like to thank Vivian for the appointment also. I look forward to >working with her for the benefit of GAGenWeb. > >Linda B. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message