In my opinion, Ancestry.com, is a mixed bag. Their free stuff offers access to a large gedcom collection, as well as a few other data bases. Also, they will put you on their Email list and keep you informed of their new data bases being added, which are free for ten days. All that's great. But the few times I've tried to use their other data bases, I've been disappointed. Our local library buys their service, so I can use it there. Since it's been a long while since I listed my STARR query, here it is again. My great grand father waws Eli STARR, born about 1820. who married Martha Jane COBURN(sp?) in 1847 in Dutchess Co., NY and lived in Greenhaven, Beekman Twp, where he was a blacksmith. Their marriage announcement said he came from Patterson Co., NY. There was a Josiah STARR in Patterson who could be his father, but I've found not specific evidence of that relationship. Can anyone help me? This Josiah is desc from Comfort, so all I need is one little step to go all the way back to England in the 1600's. Norm Morrison in Hendersonville, NC Researching COBURN & STARR in Dutchess County, NY in the 1840's;