Wow weeee ! "Osiyo" (hello=Cherokee), Yaall ! Man did you get my attention with this e-mail ! I have been "cut-off" from the internet for `bout two weeks or more so TODAY was my 1st. chance to see this mail ! I'm decended from STARR/SHRUM Grandparents, with the "Starr " name being from the Maternal side ! (Grandma Rose Starr). Grandma had siblings? I use a question mark because I've had so many people say "It looks like were related", until I mention those sibling's names, then it's "NO I guess were not after all we dont have those names" ! Also I have no proof of these siblings ever have been real ! But then I have NO Parents for poor Grandma. Cherokee people (if imdeed I'm decended from Cherokee) have a lomg history of "lies" in respect to relatives, and such, OUT OF NECESADITY ! I'm afraid, as many hid from the death squads of the Cherokee groups that did not like that "TREATY" that was signed by a STARR, not to mention the whites that persecuted my people all over the regions "back east", (I'm in Washington stste, transplanted "Okie"). So with all this in mind I'm going to give TO YOU those siblings ! Milly, Betty, Samp,Brawney. That's it ! I hope we are related, it sure would halt a portion of the search that has given me some pleasure, and much concern, and pain! Looking forward to your corospondance in the future Neal Shrum born 4/13/55 California ; to Edgar Shrum born 1895 Arkansas ! Wado (thank you) Neal---------- > From: TexasRio@aol.com > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Fwd: [CROSS and starr marriges Family in Texas > Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 8:57 AM > > > --part1_0.4a8204de.2551c362_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello everyone...Well more coincidences my greatgrandmother was a > Cross and her father in law was ANDREW A, STARR -PERMILIA(millie) PEARSON > FAMILY family from JOHN and TABITHA ties into interesting saga of cattle > drive with andrew and curly bob,,john and grandson hankins living with > him,,,off of pearson line with info of thomas starr,,,now a saphronia we > thought was a Starr could she be a cross? because alot of my info too came > from cross bible....could have been transposed to other starr members > incorrect line? HELP hahah > > > by the way when i started researching i had hoped i could write a book on > info...and at lest so could explain some terrible tempers of family lines,,,, > > > wonder if GREATS ARE CURLING IN SPIRIT WORLD OR SMILING?// lynette > > --part1_0.4a8204de.2551c362_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <CROSS-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.36]) > by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v62.15) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 > 11:17:42 -0500 > Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by > rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:17:04 > -0400 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00798; > Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:16:02 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:16:02 -0800 (PST) > Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991103161113.006a55ac@pop.usit.net> > X-Sender: joug@pop.usit.net > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:11:13 -0500 > Old-To: CROSS-L@rootsweb.com > From: Kacy Guffey <joug@usit.net> > Subject: Re: [CROSS] Cross Family in Texas > Resent-Message-ID: <x7Rdd.A.xK.B_FI4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> > To: CROSS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: CROSS-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: CROSS-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <CROSS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/605 > X-Loop: CROSS-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: CROSS-L-request@rootsweb.com > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello my name is Jeanette and I am also doing research on the Cross families > do you by chance have any connection to the Cross' of TN if so how. > Let me know and I will see if I can make a connection somehow. Thanks > Jeanette > > > > > > At 01:07 PM 10/29/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I am researching the family of Jasper N. "Jack" Cross who was born in Missouri > >Oct. 1845. Here is a lot of the information that I have gathered on this family > >thus far. I hope this information will be helpful to someone out there. > > > >According to family legend, Jack Cross was a scout for the Dalton Gang. > However, > >I have found no evidence of this association. My aunt once told me that > this was > >a myth and that Jack Cross was a military man. I have been unable to find any > >military records for him yet. Also, I've been told by other members of my > family > >that the Cross family was mean, but no one has ever been able to give me > >specifics. I noticed in posting on the Cross Mailing list that another Cross > >family in Texas was supposedly mean. > > > >Jasper N. "Jack" Cross married Sophronia Criswell Aug. 15, 1867 in Fayette > >County, TX. I'm not sure how he ended up in Fayette County, TX. > > > >>From 1870 Fayette County TX Federal Census Page 436 > >Cross, Jasper N., 24, M, W Place of birth: MO > >Cross, Saphronia, 19, F, W, Place of birth: TX > > > >>From 1880 McLennan County TX Federal Census, Page 212 > >June 4 & 5, 1880 > >Surname, Given Rc Sx Age Rel. Occ Birth PL Dad BP Mom BP > >Cross, Jasper N. W M 34 Farmer Missouri Alabama? Alabama? > >Sophronia W F 29 Wife Keeping Home Texas Texas Texas > >Asa B W M 8 Son > >Dice E. W M 6 Son > >Orie O (sp?) W F 4 Daughter > >Jasper J ? W M 3 Son > >Anie W F 6/12 Daughter > > > >1900 Mitchell County TX Soundex Census Records > >Cross, Jasper N. - white - October 1845 - age 54 - born in MO - living in > >Mitchell County. > >Cross, Sophronia - wife - December 1850 - age 49 - born in Texas > >Cross, Dice E. - son - August 1876 - age 23 - born in Texas > >Cross, Jessie - daughter - September 1881 - age 18 - born in Texas > >Cross, Lillie - daughter - December 1882 - age 16 - born in Texas > >Cross, Bird - son - October 1884 - age 15 - born in Texas > >Cross, Mabel - daughter - December 1889 - age 10 - born in Texas > > > > > >Several Cross children lived in Martin County, TX for either many years or for > >just awhile: > >Dice E. Cross married Rhoda Fletcher. (I have a copy of Dice's Obit). > >A. B. "Boon" Cross married Emily Fletcher. > >Mabel Cross married Samuel Luke Greaves/Graves (later moved to Odessa, Ector CO > >TX) > >Jessie Cross married a Mr. Mabry > > > >The Martin County Museum has several items donated by the Cross family > including > >a black dress worn by Sophronia Criswell Cross. There is also a > >picture of several Cross children. > > > >My G Grandmother, Lillie Cross, married James Yancy "Jim" Greaves/Graves and > >lived in Dawson County. They had 7 daughters. Lillie & Mabel Cross married into > >the Greaves family. There has been a lot of genealogy research on this family. > >The father of James Yancy and Samuel Luke was Lawrence Decatur Greaves. The > >Greaves family lived in Coleman County. Several other Greaves brothers ended up > >settling in Dawson County. > > > >Jasper N. "Jack" Cross married again after his first wife, Sophronia, died > >between 1900 and 1904 (location unknown). > > > >>From Howard County TX Web Site, part of the TexGenProject > >Howard County Marriages 1903-1906 > >Groom / Bride / Date / Minister or witnesses > >Jack Cross and Treacy McKinzie-May 22, 1904 > > > >1910 Dawson County TX Census > >Cross, Jasper N. Age 62 Born: Missouri, Parents from Missouri > >Cross, Teresa Age 25 Born: Texas > >Cross, Jasper N. Age 1 Born: Texas > > > >Jack's 2nd wife died in 1914 and is buried in Lamesa, Dawson CO, TX > > > >Dawson County TX Cemetery record: > >Cross, Theresa born 30 July 1884 died 12 Jan 1914 Dawson Co buried in Lamesa > >Cemetery > > > >Jack remarried a 3rd time: > >Howard County TX Marriages 1912-1916 > >Jack Cross and Miss Annie Myers-Jan.6, 1915 > > > >Annie Myers Cross died 11/20/1919 in Lubbock CO. TX. According to her death > >certificate, she was born abt. 1890 and her father was from Russia. She died of > >Pellegra, which was common in those times, especially to poor people that ate a > >diet mostly of cornbread, salt pork and molasses. Pellegra is a Vit. B > defiency, > >specifically a defiency in Niacin. Her death certificate was signed by Jack > >Cross of Lamesa. > > > >I have lost track of Jack Cross after 1919. I have yet to find any death record > >of Jasper N. "Jack" Cross in Texas. My next stop is to research in the 1920 > >Federal Census. > > > >I have more information on this Cross family and would love to exchange > >information with any other researchers working on this family. I have a lot of > >info on the Cross family in Martin County. > > > >Has anyone found a Jasper N. Cross in Missouri, born in 1845? If so, what > >county? > > > > > > > > > > > --part1_0.4a8204de.2551c362_boundary--