Don't know anything about this Givens -- he would have been born in 1864.... But since the names are used over and over and over again........ That's why we see so many Johns, Henrys, James, Thomases, etc. Wonder whose son this Givens was??? And Richard? Know nothing about him either. It's possible -- age wise -- that Richard could have been the father of this Givens even. Hmmmmm Anyone have any ideas? Thanks Lynette. Wish it were my Givens but it's not. Nephew?? di TexasRio@aol.com wrote: > 1880 Callahan co. texas census > > Starr, Givens w m 16 hired hand , farm labor tex,? ? page 329 > > Starr, Richard w m married 35 D&P R.R. ohio,ohio,ohio page 324 > > the age for Givens is to differnt than if brother to andrew,orville.john > etc....but lot of coincidences Richard I do not anything about,,, > > any info please or hope this helps someone Lynette