To make contact with the German STARR or STOEHR lines, go to the Rootsweb Interactive Search ... http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi Enter STOEHR in the surname box, leave the location box empty. You will have many new contacts there. Of course, this still does not explain why some Irish Quaker STARR descendants and the German STOEHR descendants bear such a striking facial resemblance to each other ... unless there was some intermarriage. A puzzle. VIRGINIA I have contacted two different Starr's in PA. and they informed me their Starr line changed from Starzinsky when they came over from Germany in the early 1900,s.