To answer where I got that information, it came from p. 62 of "The Buffalo Ridge Cherokee: A Remnant of a Great Nation Divided" by Horace R. Rice. He is writing about various families and says: "Although Dr. Isbell went for white, he, like many central and southwestern Virginia Cherokee, may have had both European and Cherokee ancestry. The Isbells in Appomattox, Oklahoma, and North Carolina have Cherokee family traditions. The Isbell surname is a traditional Cherokee family name (Starr)." Neal, you mentioned that you have always been interested in the Tsalagi and the Chickamauga peoples. Do you know where I can learn more about them? I am having a difficult time finding resources, even on the net about them. Thanks. Diana, I don't have proof either that Adam was born in Virginia. All we really have to go on is the 1850 census and I don't know why he wouldn't have told the truth about it. I'm just, for now anyway, assuming that it is true. It also has that his first several children were born in Ohio and then a couple in Indiana before they moved on to Missouri. If you look at a map of Botetourt Co. VA in 1770 (you'll find it at <www.rootsweb.com/~vaboteto/bote-org.htm>) you'll see that that one Virginia county included all of the southwestern part of Virginia, nearly half of West Virginia on the south (until 1863), all of Kentucky (until 1792), a good size chunk of southern Ohio (until 1803), nearly all of Indiana (until 1816), and mostly all of Illinois (until 1818). Interesting? I think so. I means that possible they could have lived in an area and not moved at all and still have been in several states over the years. HMMMMM? Gotta go. Tell me what you think. Crystal