I want to add a little to this discussion, although it won't necessarily add any fact to add to Linda's information. The earliest Starr my family has been able to trace is David Starr who said he was born in Ohio in 1816. He married Emmeline (we think Sneed/Snead) and their first children were born in Missouri. We don't know which county in Missouri or whether they married there. Emmeline says on the census she was born in Kentucky. Their oldest son was named John. My Starr family moved into Arkansas shortly before the 1850 census. David Starr's son married a Yandell who's mother's maiden name was Adair. That was James Amos Starr. His brother married her sister. The Yandells were from North Carolina. I have puzzled off and on whether the Starrs and Yandells met each other in Arkansas or if the families had traveled in the same areas over the years. We have thought there was some Indian blood in the family line but have only been able to positively identify it as it comes in through the Yandell/Adair union. My mother and I thought, without facts to prove it, that our line came originally from Pa. I have also wondered if it didn't come from Moravian beginnings. So far, I have been unable to definitely link my David to any of the established lines. I guess ours are some of the "lost lines of Starrs". There were several Starr families in Arkansas who did not seem to be related. There were also Starr families in Ohio that we can't seem to link to. I'm sure it's possible that some of these Starrs were connected in some way and that THEY knew the connection over the years without thinking it was important enough to stress. It would be a little like some of us knowing who some of our cousins married but didn't see them enough for our children to remember them. And, one more thing, I read in the last several months of a Starr line that left the colonial area and came to the Georgia area. They left here and went to the Ar, Mo, In. area. Like I said, I wanted to join the discussion-just didn't necessarily have any facts to be helpful, just background. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Starr81 <starr81@ix.netcom.com> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > >been among them. Thus, Caleb may not have been the only progenitor of the > >Cherokee Starrs. However he and his sons, being treaty signers, are the > best > >known. > > This is a very good point brought up by Adrian; in fact, I plan to > provide documentation (when things settle down and I relocate it) for > Caleb's birthyear in 1764 rather than the usual estimated 1758 which proves > beyond > a doubt, the 'Indian trader' attributed as Caleb Starr in Ramsay's History > of Tennessee or Summer's Annals of SW VA can't be the one who married Nancy > Harlan. > I have several sources which say "an Indian trader" / "an Indian trader named > STARR" and finally "Caleb Starr" harangued the Indian chiefs to not attack > the whites. This was during the RW. I've often wondered who this "Indian > trader Starr" is? Or could he be only attributed to Caleb, so wasn't a > STARR. But > certainly there are enough southern STARRs without lineage out there to NOT > rule out any possibility along the lines of another Indian connection. > Linda > >