I don't know if this has been posted in the past. I had a chance to run to the library this weekend. Cemetery at Cayuga Springs, Oklahoma 9 miles north o fGrove, Oklahoma near the church built by Mathias Splitlog from the Seamster Papers James Starr 2/18/1833-12/25/1901 Rachel L. Starr 8/11/1873-5/31/1898 Jessie B. Starr 5/1/1877-4/30/1895 Grace,dau of JC and LB Starr 1903-1905 Susan E Nuckolls, dau of James and Emma Starr 1884-1885 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Lynette, If you kept the census from 1850 that I sent you, you'll see that Adam, Hannah, Andrew, Mary Jane, John, George, Orville, Catherine, Eliza, Givens, Henry were all listed as being there -- Camden Co, MO on that 1850 census. Jessie is not mentioned but he would have been 4 yrs old then; Saphronia and Sally and Edna aren't mentioned either -- of course Edna wasn't born yet and who knows about the others. Maybe they were visiting cousins or something and therefore just not there at the time the census was taken. There could be a number of reasons why their names weren't listed. Who knows. di TexasRio@aol.com wrote: > were did info of brothers - sisters births deaths ect census be found > at...were in ohio---mo. that has chidren of adam hanna listed? looking > to recheck info i have,,,lynette

Hello Clara. I put in the invite. Please let me know if you have any trouble with it. >From: "Clara Elkins" <elkins@carrollsweb.com> >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Joining the Club >Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:23:21 -0500 > >Matt, this is Clara Elkins, Diana Hay's aunt, and I just want to be >included, also. Thanks. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I agree. It's very well said. di matt cole wrote: > A Poem well said. > > >From: Crystal Burleson <cburleso@cybertrails.com> > >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Kinsman > >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:47:34 -0700 > > > >I know that some folks get a little miffed when something comes across a > >list that isn't strictly genealogy facts, but I hope you all enjoy this > >poem that came on my Leggett list yesterday. It seem that we all share > >the same research problems. > > > >Kinsman (original poem by Wayne Hand, 1999) > > > >Alas, my elusive kinsman > >You've led me quite a chase. > >I thought I'd found your courthouse > >But the Yankees burned the place. > >You always kept your bags packed > >Although you had no fame; and > >Just for the fun of it, > >Twice you changed your name. > >You never owed any man, or > >At least I found no bills > >In spite of eleven offspring > >You never left a will. > >They say our name's from Europe > >Came state side on a ship. > >Either they lost the passenger list > >Or granddad gave them the slip. > >I'm the only one looking, > >Another searcher I can't find. > >I pray, "maybe that's his father's name", > >As I go out of my mind. > >They said you had a headstone > >In a shady plot. > >I've been there twenty times, and > >Can't even find the lot. > >You never wrote a letter, > >Your Bible we can't find. > >It's probably in some attic > >Out of sight and out of mind. > >You first married a ......Smith > >And just to set the tone, > >The other four were Sarahs > >And every one a Jones. > >You cost me two fortunes, > >One of which I did not have, > >My wife, my house and Fido. > >Oh, how I miss that yellow lab. > >But somewhere you slipped up, > >Ole Boy, Somewhere you left a track. > >And if I don't find you this year > >Well.......Next year I'll be back! > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

All this Starr activity and I really feel like MY Starr's must have come from another Universe. I haven't been able to come up with any Starr link past my Great Grandmother Laura Sarah Starr. But I did recieve a page from the Covington City directory from 1884 that listed my GGrandmother Laura Starr at the same address as a E.J. Starr, he is listed as a blacksmith. I don't think this was a husband because she married my Great Grandfather John M. Kemper, so he must have been her Father or Brother. Then I found a E. Starr in the 18?0 census with a Mary and he is listed as Carriage smith and born in Pa. but living in Covington at that time. Covington KY and Cincinatti Ohio are practically considered the same city. I am planning to go to Cincinatti and Covington this Thursday for the sole purpose of getting to the bottom of this. Does anyone have any Starr's in Cincinatti they want me to look up? My Laura Starr was adopted by the Starr family, I just don't know which one! ---------- > From: Norman C. Morrison <normm@brinet.com> > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: question > Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 8:57 AM > > In my opinion, Ancestry.com, is a mixed bag. Their free stuff offers > access to a large gedcom collection, as well as a few other data bases. > Also, they will put you on their Email list and keep you informed of their > new data bases being added, which are free for ten days. All that's great. > But the few times I've tried to use their other data bases, I've been > disappointed. Our local library buys their service, so I can use it there. > > Since it's been a long while since I listed my STARR query, here it is > again. My great grand father waws Eli STARR, born about 1820. who married > Martha Jane COBURN(sp?) in 1847 in Dutchess Co., NY and lived in > Greenhaven, Beekman Twp, where he was a blacksmith. Their marriage > announcement said he came from Patterson Co., NY. There was a Josiah STARR > in Patterson who could be his father, but I've found not specific evidence > of that relationship. Can anyone help me? This Josiah is desc from > Comfort, so all I need is one little step to go all the way back to England > in the 1600's. > > Norm Morrison in Hendersonville, NC > > Researching COBURN & STARR in Dutchess County, NY in the 1840's; > >

Jim, Please include me on the reinvite list. My computer has screwed up the last few days. Please send me the site address for the page. For some reason I can't import my other bookmarks to this program. Odd that they can tell you they know your program is corrupted. For some reason no one can tell me how it happened. So, I don't know what to avoid doing in the future. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: matt cole <mcwolf@hotmail.com> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Suggestion for combining info > Welcome Diana. > > > >From: dhay2@ionet.net > >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: Suggestion for combining info > >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 08:48:48 -0600 > > > >Please include me on the list as well that you all are starting > >Thank you > >Diana > > > > > > Jim I would like to request to be invited if you will. > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > > > >From: FLStarman@aol.com > > > >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > > > >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Subject: Re: Suggestion for combining info > > > >Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:28:06 EST > > > > > > > >Hello Dawn > > > > > > > >I have put your name in for the Capt John C. Starr My Family site as a > > > >re-invite, so you should receive your i.d. and password with the > >invite. > > > > > > > >If you do not, please let me know. > > > > > > > >Good luck > > > > > > > >Jim Starr Flstarman@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >

Matt, this is Clara Elkins, Diana Hay's aunt, and I just want to be included, also. Thanks.

Yes we are Diana > > I have a research article about Captain Carran Starr b. 1620, Cavan Co., > Ireland. > > 2. John Starr b. 1645, Old Castle, Society of Friends; married to Mary > in 1673 in Ireland. > > 3. James Starr b. 1676 Old Castle, Meath, Ireland, married June Rachel > Laybourne 1705, Ireland. He died in Phoenixville, PA. > > 4. Moses Starr b 1720, Chester Co., PA. Married Margaret Qiuartlebaum > > 5. Mary Hargis Starr b. 1768, PA., m. Rev. Ebenezer Rhodes in 1798. > > Is this the family some of you are looking for? > > Carol Ann,

I have a research article about Captain Carran Starr b. 1620, Cavan Co., Ireland. 2. John Starr b. 1645, Old Castle, Society of Friends; married to Mary in 1673 in Ireland. 3. James Starr b. 1676 Old Castle, Meath, Ireland, married June Rachel Laybourne 1705, Ireland. He died in Phoenixville, PA. 4. Moses Starr b 1720, Chester Co., PA. Married Margaret Qiuartlebaum 5. Mary Hargis Starr b. 1768, PA., m. Rev. Ebenezer Rhodes in 1798. Is this the family some of you are looking for? Carol Ann,

John Bell m. not listed Children: Elizabeth Bell-Candy b. ab.t 1850 John A. Bell b. 1 May 1860 Sarah Bell-Waite b. abt. 1850 Martha Bell-Duncan b. 1857 Nancy Bell-Starr b. 1860 David Bell b. abt. 1848 Charlotte Bell-Deupin b. ?, Vinite, OK...lothers listed are: James M. Bell b. Vinite, OK. Carol Ann,

While going through some of my notes, i cam accross the following! Caleb Starr m. Bell children were: James b. 1830 William K. b. 1835 Charlotte b. 1840 John W. b. 1842 Mary Francis b. 1844 George Calvin b. 1847 Ezekiel b. 1849, d. 1905 Joseph J. b. 1851, d. 1872 Samuel J., b. 1857, d. listed as still living! Cherokee Application form, sent by Pat Smith nee White Baffulo Woman, NA resercher, Dept. Emmigrat Roll, taken in 1851, pd. @ Fort Gibson! Carol Ann,

I know that some folks get a little miffed when something comes across a list that isn't strictly genealogy facts, but I hope you all enjoy this poem that came on my Leggett list yesterday. It seem that we all share the same research problems. Kinsman (original poem by Wayne Hand, 1999) Alas, my elusive kinsman You've led me quite a chase. I thought I'd found your courthouse But the Yankees burned the place. You always kept your bags packed Although you had no fame; and Just for the fun of it, Twice you changed your name. You never owed any man, or At least I found no bills In spite of eleven offspring You never left a will. They say our name's from Europe Came state side on a ship. Either they lost the passenger list Or granddad gave them the slip. I'm the only one looking, Another searcher I can't find. I pray, "maybe that's his father's name", As I go out of my mind. They said you had a headstone In a shady plot. I've been there twenty times, and Can't even find the lot. You never wrote a letter, Your Bible we can't find. It's probably in some attic Out of sight and out of mind. You first married a ......Smith And just to set the tone, The other four were Sarahs And every one a Jones. You cost me two fortunes, One of which I did not have, My wife, my house and Fido. Oh, how I miss that yellow lab. But somewhere you slipped up, Ole Boy, Somewhere you left a track. And if I don't find you this year Well.......Next year I'll be back!

Please include me on the list as well that you all are starting Thank you Diana > > Jim I would like to request to be invited if you will. > Thank you in advance. > > >From: FLStarman@aol.com > >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: Suggestion for combining info > >Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:28:06 EST > > > >Hello Dawn > > > >I have put your name in for the Capt John C. Starr My Family site as a > >re-invite, so you should receive your i.d. and password with the invite. > > > >If you do not, please let me know. > > > >Good luck > > > >Jim Starr Flstarman@aol.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Welcome Diana. >From: dhay2@ionet.net >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Suggestion for combining info >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 08:48:48 -0600 > >Please include me on the list as well that you all are starting >Thank you >Diana > > > > Jim I would like to request to be invited if you will. > > Thank you in advance. > > > > >From: FLStarman@aol.com > > >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: Suggestion for combining info > > >Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:28:06 EST > > > > > >Hello Dawn > > > > > >I have put your name in for the Capt John C. Starr My Family site as a > > >re-invite, so you should receive your i.d. and password with the >invite. > > > > > >If you do not, please let me know. > > > > > >Good luck > > > > > >Jim Starr Flstarman@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

A Poem well said. >From: Crystal Burleson <cburleso@cybertrails.com> >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Kinsman >Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:47:34 -0700 > >I know that some folks get a little miffed when something comes across a >list that isn't strictly genealogy facts, but I hope you all enjoy this >poem that came on my Leggett list yesterday. It seem that we all share >the same research problems. > >Kinsman (original poem by Wayne Hand, 1999) > >Alas, my elusive kinsman >You've led me quite a chase. >I thought I'd found your courthouse >But the Yankees burned the place. >You always kept your bags packed >Although you had no fame; and >Just for the fun of it, >Twice you changed your name. >You never owed any man, or >At least I found no bills >In spite of eleven offspring >You never left a will. >They say our name's from Europe >Came state side on a ship. >Either they lost the passenger list >Or granddad gave them the slip. >I'm the only one looking, >Another searcher I can't find. >I pray, "maybe that's his father's name", >As I go out of my mind. >They said you had a headstone >In a shady plot. >I've been there twenty times, and >Can't even find the lot. >You never wrote a letter, >Your Bible we can't find. >It's probably in some attic >Out of sight and out of mind. >You first married a ......Smith >And just to set the tone, >The other four were Sarahs >And every one a Jones. >You cost me two fortunes, >One of which I did not have, >My wife, my house and Fido. >Oh, how I miss that yellow lab. >But somewhere you slipped up, >Ole Boy, Somewhere you left a track. >And if I don't find you this year >Well.......Next year I'll be back! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, I found this in the Kansas City Starr this week. Really my husband found it and copied it so that I can enter it for someone who might be related. I hope some one can connect to this family. Sherry Mae STARR Wilson Sherry Mae (Starr) Wilson 63, Gravious Mills, MO (formerly of Grandview MO) passed away Tuesday, November 2-1999, at the Lake of the Ozarks General Hospital. Services will be 1 PM Monday Nov 8, 1999 at Park Lawn Funeral Home: Burial in Memorial Park Cemetery, Kansas City, MO. Friends may call from 4-6pm Sunday at the funeral home. Sherry was born Aug 23, 1936 in Joplin MO, to Ralph and Wilma STARR. She was married to Charles E Wisdom on Jun 27, 1953. She worked for Avon and as a floral designer. Shere was a member of Broadview Christian Church and Ivanhoe Eastern Starr #244, and was also a Camp Fire Leader. She was preceded in death by her parents; and a sister, Linda Brasel McCready. Survivors include her husband, Charles E Wisdom, of the home; 5 children, Diane Carr of Monett MO, Karen Hunter of Grandview MO, Charles Wisdom Jr of Carrollton TX, Daryl Widsom of Niceville FL: and Kevin Wisdom of Olate KS. Four Sisters, Mary Vernon of KC MO, Barbara Hamilton of Buffalo MO, Sue Shelton of Independence MO, and Loretta York of Chandler OK and a brother Leon STARR, Harrisonville MO. 14 grandchildren, three great grandchildren; many nieces and nephews. Carol carol92341@aol.com

Love it!!!!!!!!!!! great smile giver...

Lynette, that would be great. You have helped all of us alot with your latest information posted. I, too would like to know the census information, etc. on Adam and Hannah's children. I look forward to seeing that put on by someone as well. Thanks to you all. Crystal TexasRio@aol.com wrote: > Givens at 16 was working for a ranch and had no family. John M. Starr shows > up in the County off and on and takes in orphaned kids of the Starr family. > Will send list of children to help with Orville's kids. Lynette

Every time I see a Starr like this in Texas that was born between 1860-1870 I can't help but wonder if it is one of Orville and Susan's orphaned children. I may never know, but he would fit--being named after Orville's brother, Givens and all. Just hoping to find some of them and prove it someday. Crystal Diana Starr wrote: > Don't know anything about this Givens -- he would have been born in > 1864.... But since the names are used over and over and over again........ > That's why we see so many Johns, Henrys, James, Thomases, etc. Wonder > whose son this Givens was??? And Richard? Know nothing about him > either. It's possible -- age wise -- that Richard could have been the > father of this Givens even. Hmmmmm > Anyone have any ideas? > Thanks Lynette. Wish it were my Givens but it's not. Nephew?? > di > > TexasRio@aol.com wrote: > > > 1880 Callahan co. texas census > > > > Starr, Givens w m 16 hired hand , farm labor tex,? ? page 329 > > > > Starr, Richard w m married 35 D&P R.R. ohio,ohio,ohio page 324 > > > > the age for Givens is to differnt than if brother to andrew,orville.john > > etc....but lot of coincidences Richard I do not anything about,,, > > > > any info please or hope this helps someone Lynette

Good girl! Now your search has refreshed our memories and we can be on the lookout for information. Have you checked with the MO sites? I was on for Pulaski Co for awhile and found nothing but I am sure you might be able to find something from Hamilton Co... It was a part of rootsweb.com I think. MOPulaskCO.com??? I threw everything out since there was nothing there for me....Can someone come up with the correct address? I hope so. If not, I'll try and find it again. Surely I kept one piece of paper from them??? Also, have you looked in FamilySearch.org (or com)? It's the latter day saints search engine... You might find something there. Enjoy. di kenl wrote: > OK, Diana, > You taked me into resubmitting my family branch of the Starr's. The only > thing I can say is "help". There must be some one out there that knows > them. > Lily > > STARR FAMILY > Jacob - listed 1840 USCen Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. Ohio > N. B. - listed 1840 USCen Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. Ohio > John - listed 1840 USCen Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. Ohio > NOT SURE IF NAMES ABOVE ARE PART OF FAMILY BELOW > 1..Frederick Starr( ? Germany-? Ohio) > 1840 USCen Cincinnati,Hamilton Co,Ohio > +Wife: Elizabeth (Boger) ( ? Germany - ? Ohio) > Children: > 2..Henry Starr (1855 Ohio - 1930 Ohio) > +Wife: Amalie Christine [aka:Emma] (Hollander) (1859 Ohio - > 1939 Ohio) > Children: > 3..Helen Marie (Starr) (1891 Shandon,Oh-1975 Ohio) > 3..Homer A. Starr.Wife: unknown.Children: unknown > HOLLANDER FAMILY > 1..George Hollander (1828 Alsace-Loraine, France - 1908 Ohio) US citizen in > 1854 > +Wife: Eva Maria (Glick or Gleich) (1836 Bavaria, German - 1909 Ohio) > Children: > 2..Amalie Christine [aka:Emma](Hollander) (1859 Ohio - 1939 Ohio) > 2..Florence (Hollander) (15 May 1902 - 16 Nov 1990 Hamilton > Co, Ohio) > +Husband: ? Milholland (? - ? Ohio).Children: unknown > 2.unknown > 2.unknown > 2.unknown > 2.unknown > 2.unknown > 2.unknown > Marie Elizabeth Shaw.was grand daughter to Henry & Amalie Starr > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diana Starr <razzberri@earthlink.net> > To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: STARR- > > > Lily, > > You are sooooo funny. I know what you mean. I would tell my husband > that > > I know "my people" lived -- after all, I'm here so they must have! -- so > why > > can't I find anything on them???? Well, now that I am finally getting > info > > on my Adam and his family -- and have now been blessed with cousins Ted > and > > Lynette and Crystal....wow! It's happening! > > So, don't YOU give up either. All the Starrs are looking for info > and we > > all share so maybe one of these days you'll be lucky and find your folks. > > Heck, we could ALL be related and I'm pretty sure we are. I was told > that all > > STARRS are related to each other -- it's just finding those primary > ancestors > > you search so hard for. > > Post them again! Never too much and it helps refresh everyone else's > > memories so if we do see something, we make a connection and will pass it > > along... > > Enjoy! by the way, are you sure they're from MARS? haha Maybe > Venus -- you > > know, "Men are from Mars, Women from Venus" -- the book???! > > di > > > > kenl wrote: > > > > > Hey all you STARR family branches, > > > My search has come up empty since 1959. My side came from the planet > Mars > > > lived in Ohio for a while and went back to Mars...that's why I can't > find > > > any information on them. Sooooo don't give up on your search you still > have > > > a chance to find your family. > > > Lily > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Diana Starr <razzberri@earthlink.net> > > > To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:49 PM > > > Subject: Re: STARR-D Digest V99 #150 > > > > > > > Carol, > > > > Hang in there girl! I was in the same place you are right now -- > didn't > > > know > > > > anyone who knew anything about my Adam Starr and his family and it was > > > quite > > > > awhile before anyone came aboard who knew anything at all. NOW there > are > > > a few > > > > of us -- Lynette, Ted, Crystal and Glenn (who I'm trying to get on our > > > Starr-L > > > > list).... So, don't give up. You will find what you are searching > for -- > > > just > > > > be patient. I know that's easy to say and believe me when I say I > know > > > exactly > > > > what you're feeling right now -- but patience will pay off. We all > are > > > > watching and listening and if we come across your Starrs we will > > > definitely > > > > jump on the wagon and let you know. You aren't alone even if we don't > > > seem to > > > > have the same Starr connection -- you could still turn out to be a > cousin > > > of > > > > mine ---- who knows. Heck, you can be my cousin anyway - - just > because > > > you > > > > are a STARR! OK? > > > > Love ya, cous! > > > > di > > > > > > > > carol92341@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think everyone will stay in touch, like you said you all have > worked > > > hard > > > > > to get this going and even though I am some foreign STARR branch, I > love > > > > > reading about all the other STARR's, and maybe someday I will get > lucky. > > > So > > > > > I read every post and so does a lot of STARR families. Thanks again > for > > > > > everyone hard work and thanks for sharing your information > > > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > carol92341@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > >