Carol Ann , How BLOWN AWAY I was to see a SAMPSON STARR here ! My Grandma Rose Starr's Siblings Samp, Brawney,Milly,and Betty are closer to becoming known ! Or so it feels, SAMPSON STARR is on this very page ! I know I saw a Milly in the correspondances lately ! the whole page here is so confusing ! are these folks related ? well the ones on the samr line with Sampson ? I realise this is a census reference here ! Neal Shrum ---------- > From: Jim Wilson <jcwil@interpath.com> > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Hey everyone > Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 3:22 PM > > How many received the attachment on the Starr application that i sent to > Diana, LB, Marie {she received hers}, anyone else that would like to > have it with room on your computer and will go through the cyber-space > ok! > > Let me know and i will resend! > > Have also found David Starr and family on the 1850 TN., census's, John > Starr also there! William David on Genealogy of Old and New Cherokee > Families. also listed were Mary Paulina Starr m. Austen Rider, Nancy > "Nannie" Rider m. David Thompson they had three sons, Caleb Coos Starr > and William {David} and unknown name...seems they married into the > Thompson, Leatherwood lines of the Cherokee Blood. > > pg. 138...Lewis Star/Starr was in 1850 TN census with Mary 45, Jane 20, > Elizabeth 18, Mary 16, Lewis 14, Joseph 12, Thomas 10, Josefine 7, Ruth > 3, OHIO unk, CA-431-760...does anyone know what that means {CA-431-760}? > > pg. 140...Starr, Abraham family with Nancy, Lewis, Sarah, TT, > K-1000-329. > > Chas. A., 35, Mildred 33, Howeard14, Sarah Redford 67, Md., VA., > Sh-1181-316. > > David Starr age 33, Judith 28, Margaret M. 2, Arminda J., 4/12, T T, > K-969-324. > > Starr, James age 28, Sarah 21, Catherine 2, William F., 1, T T > K-968-324... > > Starr, Jamichael age 60, Martha 29, VA T., WA-1936-474. > > Starr, John age 29, Celinda 25, John 4, Salenda 1, Nancy 22, T., Ala, > Hi-149-21 > > Starr, Peter 43, Amy 40, Rachel 17, Barbary 15, George 13, Andrw 10, > Noble 8, Catharine 4, Amos 2, Hannah 10/12, T T, Su-1121-178. > > Starr, Peter age 24, Nancy 21, T T., Ci-803-590. > > Starr, R. D. 45, Caroline 32, Courtney 8, Allice 6, Andrew Henderson 28, > Robt. Lassley 17, Can[ada?] VA., Sh-514-66. > > Starr, Sampson age 37, Anna 34, William 12, James H. 10, Sarah E. 9, > Peter M.,7, Rachel E. 5, T T., Je-1951-921. > > Starr, Susan 51, Sarah 32, Mary 21, Ann 19, Nancy 17, Joseph 16, George > 14, Barbary 47, Elizabeth 21, NC., T K-967-324. > > 1960 Census pg. 111 > > Star, Dav. 30, Inda?34, Mary 10, Armande 8, female, Jacob 6, Jos.4, > Evelin 2, Ellen 11/12, K-217-137. > > Star, J. W. 32 {m}, Martha W., 31...Jane A., 5, C.E. 3,female, T-9-389. > > Star, John 36, Martha 27, Susan 6, George 3, Nancy 2, K-207-132. > > Star, Martha 37, Wa-106-120. > > My family story is that James Starr my 2rd ggrandfather was married five > times and had 21 Children! > > but, this shows the problem and confussion with our families...and this > is the reason i feel that we are all family members with all the > Georges, James, John's, Andrew's, William's, Jaspers, Jacksons and such, > that they named their children after father's, grandfather, brother's or > uncle's! They were maninly all living in the same areas at one time or > another! Some living to go else where, for one reason or another...mine > stayed in AR., while the Uncles moved to TX., Rush Co., TN., even some > in Al., KY...i find a Henry and James in Al., along with my Garland's, > Penningtons, Turpins, and such...just wanted to send a outline, of why i > feel the way that i do...and look at the family stories, they all claim > Cherokee blood! > > I believe that if we all work together, we just might come up with a > solution! > > What's ya'll think? > > Carol Ann,

Please, I would like a copy of the Clarence Starr attachment of which you speak. Wado, Donna

Hey y'all, Just got back in town from a trip and am still having to get my 'puter on the up and up. It doesn't want me to see the mail I had stored in Netscape. Netscape has gotten stingy and won't let me in anymore. Techs say it is "corrupted" and everything in there is lost! But, I don't have a copy of any of the rolls that I know of. Maybe it was Carol Ann. Would whoever posted the site addresses for the melungeon information please re-send the addresses? They are among the things I had stored in Netscape and can't get to. I found that information very enlightening but never got finished reading it. Talk later, Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Alice P Christie <pat@pacs.pha.pa.us> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: The Rolls > > Crystal: Thanks for the prompt reply, possibly some one who knows > about the roll will see this. I will pass on the sugestion to my friend > about the library but our local one dosent have much (small PA Town) > Alice > ------------------------- > > I'm sorry Alice, but I don't have anything on them. You might try searching > > the rolls in your public library--or didn't Marie or someone on this list > > offer access to them? > > Good luck. Crystal > > > > Alice P Christie wrote: > > > > > Crystal: This is sort of off from the Starr's Buta friend is searching > > > an Oklahoma Chreokee indian (princrss?) by the name of MARY who married > > > a Sam McCollugh (Scotch/Irish) The McCollugh'a were farmers. They had 4 > > > children. Sam Jr., David, William and a daughter Nancy who married > > > Hezekial Phillips. Any help would be great. > > > Thanks > > > Alice pat@pacs.pha.pa.us > > > > > > >

I have the Texas Soundex for Stegald..the 1900 Soundex...on my first page is a : Stegald, A. A....volume 107 E.D. 147...sheet 8 line 11...color white...Month Feby....year 1842.. age 58... birthplace Tennessee...county Walker..prct 1...city Huntsville, enumerated with Huntsville Penetentiary...that is the only A. A. Stegald that I have...I don't know if this one ties in with a lot of questions that had been brought up about some other Stegalls related to Moses Stigall or not...hope this helps a little....or a lot....if your like me i'm just more CONFUSED....LBCane@aol.com

Thanks Diana, You can have all the time you need for some R & R. Searching out family history is a pursuit of patience and time; and these folks can't hide forever. Crystal Diana Starr wrote: > Yea, probably the Adam Starr that married Mary Keck. > speaking of names. I'm not sure that Henry's middle name was Fletcher nor > am I sure that my Givens was Givens Adam or vice versa. I might have > gotten confused so I'll have to go over things again to make sure I'm not > incorrect. OK? Patience please. I'm trying to set things up in power > point according to who's who and it's very time consuming. I have done my > givens (easy one) and some of Andrew Hamilton family and that is about it. > I was on computer working on this stuff from 12 noon Thurs until 3 am > Friday morning and haven't gone back to it as yet. I need to wait until I > have time and a fresh mind. Then I'll send it all to each of the > researchers of Adam Starr and his family so you can all look at the info > and fill in blanks and let me know what I missed, ok? > More later. > di > > Crystal Burleson wrote: > > > Diana, > > Awhile back you asked if anyone had ideas about the email you received > > concerning Adam's father being John Adam Starr. In Ancestry.com there is > > a John Adam Starr with a son Adam, but that Adam was born in 1785 and > > had a different wife--not Hannah. Different Adam Starr. Crystal

I'm sorry Alice, but I don't have anything on them. You might try searching the rolls in your public library--or didn't Marie or someone on this list offer access to them? Good luck. Crystal Alice P Christie wrote: > Crystal: This is sort of off from the Starr's Buta friend is searching > an Oklahoma Chreokee indian (princrss?) by the name of MARY who married > a Sam McCollugh (Scotch/Irish) The McCollugh'a were farmers. They had 4 > children. Sam Jr., David, William and a daughter Nancy who married > Hezekial Phillips. Any help would be great. > Thanks > Alice pat@pacs.pha.pa.us

Neal, Try this website: http://www.shirleyassociation.com/belle_starr_and_her_roots.htm It has some information about Belle Starr. At the bottom is a link to her life's story. Jim Reed was her first husband; Sam Starr was her second. She was the mistress of "Blue" Duck. Her real name was Myra Maybelle Shirley; her married name was Starr. Jan Neal & Barbara Shrum wrote: > > Wow Lynette , just off the top of my head was'nt Jim July a Husband of > Belle (Shirley) Starr ? I've heard so many Starr names I'm befuddeled now! > Blue Duck was her first hubby right ? Have you two (You and Di) Been > discussing old Belle ? I was told she was my Great Aunt, and my Maternal > Grandmother was a Starr. I was told by sources related to that Starr tree > that My Rose was not related, but I'm not so sure, as folks changed names > etc... back in Grandnas time ie; aprox, 1864 to 1950's ? Thought I'de > interject, but Di knows all this ! Neal >

> Crystal: Thanks for the prompt reply, possibly some one who knows about the roll will see this. I will pass on the sugestion to my friend about the library but our local one dosent have much (small PA Town) Alice ------------------------- > I'm sorry Alice, but I don't have anything on them. You might try searching > the rolls in your public library--or didn't Marie or someone on this list > offer access to them? > Good luck. Crystal > > Alice P Christie wrote: > > > Crystal: This is sort of off from the Starr's Buta friend is searching > > an Oklahoma Chreokee indian (princrss?) by the name of MARY who married > > a Sam McCollugh (Scotch/Irish) The McCollugh'a were farmers. They had 4 > > children. Sam Jr., David, William and a daughter Nancy who married > > Hezekial Phillips. Any help would be great. > > Thanks > > Alice pat@pacs.pha.pa.us > >

Yea, probably the Adam Starr that married Mary Keck. speaking of names. I'm not sure that Henry's middle name was Fletcher nor am I sure that my Givens was Givens Adam or vice versa. I might have gotten confused so I'll have to go over things again to make sure I'm not incorrect. OK? Patience please. I'm trying to set things up in power point according to who's who and it's very time consuming. I have done my givens (easy one) and some of Andrew Hamilton family and that is about it. I was on computer working on this stuff from 12 noon Thurs until 3 am Friday morning and haven't gone back to it as yet. I need to wait until I have time and a fresh mind. Then I'll send it all to each of the researchers of Adam Starr and his family so you can all look at the info and fill in blanks and let me know what I missed, ok? More later. di Crystal Burleson wrote: > Diana, > Awhile back you asked if anyone had ideas about the email you received > concerning Adam's father being John Adam Starr. In Ancestry.com there is > a John Adam Starr with a son Adam, but that Adam was born in 1785 and > had a different wife--not Hannah. Different Adam Starr. Crystal

Crystal: This is sort of off from the Starr's Buta friend is searching an Oklahoma Chreokee indian (princrss?) by the name of MARY who married a Sam McCollugh (Scotch/Irish) The McCollugh'a were farmers. They had 4 children. Sam Jr., David, William and a daughter Nancy who married Hezekial Phillips. Any help would be great. Thanks Alice pat@pacs.pha.pa.us

Diana, Awhile back you asked if anyone had ideas about the email you received concerning Adam's father being John Adam Starr. In Ancestry.com there is a John Adam Starr with a son Adam, but that Adam was born in 1785 and had a different wife--not Hannah. Different Adam Starr. Crystal

Wow Lynette , just off the top of my head was'nt Jim July a Husband of Belle (Shirley) Starr ? I've heard so many Starr names I'm befuddeled now! Blue Duck was her first hubby right ? Have you two (You and Di) Been discussing old Belle ? I was told she was my Great Aunt, and my Maternal Grandmother was a Starr. I was told by sources related to that Starr tree that My Rose was not related, but I'm not so sure, as folks changed names etc... back in Grandnas time ie; aprox, 1864 to 1950's ? Thought I'de interject, but Di knows all this ! Neal ---------- > From: TexasRio@aol.com > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Fwd: Starr letter more on its way lynette > Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:16 PM > > > --part1_0.4e782719.254e0bca_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --part1_0.4e782719.254e0bca_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: TexasRio@aol.com > From: TexasRio@aol.com > Full-name: TexasRio > Message-ID: <0.37a55b58.254cf9f8@aol.com> > Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:48:40 EDT > Subject: Re: Starr letter more on its way lynette > To: tstarr@Saba.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 > > I also have listing of all your line that calli gave to my uncle and dorthy > pafford. copis anyhow....paffor and pack line enters at permelia pearsons > parents... > > I also have a story of andrew a, starr on a cattle drive with curly bob in > 1872. > He curly bob and daltons and red sash gang and youngers all coincided > together. > coincidence? also jim july was an alias for jim / james starr. pleases > lets chat more.....lynette > > --part1_0.4e782719.254e0bca_boundary--

Osiyo Matt ! & WADO ! BUT ; HUH ? I'm clueless on how to do this Matt ? Don't you have to subscribe and pay a fee monthly to access that site also ? Neal Shrum (Starr) ---------- > From: matt cole <mcwolf@hotmail.com> > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: william-texanna > Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 8:43 AM > > Why not upload it to the MYFAMILY.COM site for this discussion list? > > > >From: "Neal & Barbara Shrum" <block@thurston.com> > >Reply-To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: william-texanna > >Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 03:25:05 -0800 > > > >Thats right NO ATTACHMENTS will get through on this list! I've tried and > >seen others also! Neal Shrum > > > >---------- > > > From: sbysinger <sbysinger@sprintmail.com> > > > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: william-texanna > > > Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:53 PM > > > > > > You can't send attachments to the list....doesn't compute! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Marie Bailey <mbaile2@bellsouth.net> > > > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: william-texanna > > > > > > > > > >Lynette, > > > > No pictures have appeared for me on this list. Was it supposed to be > >here > > > or > > > >somewhere else? > > > >Marie > > > > > > > >TexasRio@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > >> hey eveybody....were you able to see photo? please let me know if > > > correct > > > >> format thanks lynette > > > > > > > >______________________________ > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Mary Ann, it is www.nancyward.com. It has all of the "Cherokee" Starrs on it. Allan Wood wrote: > I would like to know how do I find the site you are writting about? Please > list it for me. > Thank You. > > Mary Ann Starr Wood > -----Original Message----- > From: LBCane@aol.com <LBCane@aol.com> > To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:35 PM > Subject: James Starr Researcher > > >If you haven't gone to this site try it...there is a lot of Starrs on > >it....you'll get the index, click on Starr surname and have a ball!!!!! > >you'll enjoy going through all the names...if you need more info contact me > >through the list...I might have a little more info...we won't know until > you > >ask....good luck LBCane@aol.com Lynda C. > > > >

I am trying to find information on a Felix Starr (F.G.) his Mother I was told was Cherokee, so he was one-half don't know his B. date, or place of Birth, he and his wife Birdie lived in Delaplaine Ar. he was buried in Pocahontas Ar. in abt. l957. I have a little more information on Birdie she was B. 12-13-1880 D. 10-1973, they had four children, Clay, Thomas Adam, Lena, and Russell all who lived in the area, found Birdie's S.S. on index and said it was issued in MO. I have searched to try and find his cemetery listed but nothing is listed to my knowledge, for Pocahontas as of now. He was my Grandfather, Thomas Adam was my Father, I really wish I had asked questions when I had the chance. Let's all leave information for our children, even if they don't seem interested at the time. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank You Mary Ann Starr Wood

I would like to know how do I find the site you are writting about? Please list it for me. Thank You. Mary Ann Starr Wood -----Original Message----- From: LBCane@aol.com <LBCane@aol.com> To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:35 PM Subject: James Starr Researcher >If you haven't gone to this site try it...there is a lot of Starrs on >it....you'll get the index, click on Starr surname and have a ball!!!!! >you'll enjoy going through all the names...if you need more info contact me >through the list...I might have a little more info...we won't know until you >ask....good luck LBCane@aol.com Lynda C. > >

I haven't heard anything from her. I got an email from Glenn Johnson yesterday in which he mentions her, though. I have asked him if he has contact with her. I'll let you know if I hear anything at all. Crystal TexasRio@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone been able to get a hold of Julia Starr Brown? Off of Starr > Genforum? > > Got new contacts and am looking at info to send forward..also sent > andrew/charity tomstone photo to starrdigest let me know if it is correct > please lynette

One more possibility: Givens I have seen with Adam -- maybe Givens Adam or Adam Givens? I don't know for sure. As for where the names come from -- I'll have to look through everything and see if I can find out for you. I believe it IS that missing family Bible -- I really wish we could find it -- someone must have it still. At least I would hope so. Ted??? Lynette??? Any luck??? Keep asking and asking and asking and maybe someone will get tired of being asked and give you an answer that will lead you to that Bible! Boy do we need it!!!!! di Crystal Burleson wrote: > Thanks much. Yes, that does clear it up. Does the name Henry come from the > "famous" missing bible? Just curious. I'm wondering, since there are several > of these kids that had middle names (Orville's middle initial was R--no idea > what it stands for), and my great-aunt Lydia was so certain that Orville had a > brother, Emmet, I wonder if one of these brothers had that as a middle name. I > know Emmet was in Texas also. So far I have these with middle names: Andrew's > was Hamilton, John's middle initial was M, Henry's was Fletcher, Elijah's was > Yeager. Now that leaves these that I don't know about: George, Givens, Jesse. > Does anyone have middle names for them? Crystal > > Diana Starr wrote: > > > Crystal, > > Fletcher = Henry Fletcher Starr born 1849 to Adam Starr and Hannah Rupp/ > > Roup/Roupe. That should clear it up for you. He's the Henry that > > married Mary Lee (supposedly). > > di > > > > Crystal Burleson wrote: > > > > > I have posted the 1850 census with this family on it on the MyFamily.com > > > site in the file cabinet. I hope you all enjoy it. I have a couple of > > > questions about what is on it. I'll just ask one for now. The 1 year old > > > male child was named Fletcher. From what I have heard from some of you, > > > there was a Henry that was born to Adam and Hannah in 1849. Is Henry the > > > same person as Fletcher? Or maybe was Fletcher born in 1849 (like it > > > says on the census) and Henry may have been born in 1851 (after the > > > census was taken in Nov. of 1850). Any thoughts or helps? Crystal

Thanks much. Yes, that does clear it up. Does the name Henry come from the "famous" missing bible? Just curious. I'm wondering, since there are several of these kids that had middle names (Orville's middle initial was R--no idea what it stands for), and my great-aunt Lydia was so certain that Orville had a brother, Emmet, I wonder if one of these brothers had that as a middle name. I know Emmet was in Texas also. So far I have these with middle names: Andrew's was Hamilton, John's middle initial was M, Henry's was Fletcher, Elijah's was Yeager. Now that leaves these that I don't know about: George, Givens, Jesse. Does anyone have middle names for them? Crystal Diana Starr wrote: > Crystal, > Fletcher = Henry Fletcher Starr born 1849 to Adam Starr and Hannah Rupp/ > Roup/Roupe. That should clear it up for you. He's the Henry that > married Mary Lee (supposedly). > di > > Crystal Burleson wrote: > > > I have posted the 1850 census with this family on it on the MyFamily.com > > site in the file cabinet. I hope you all enjoy it. I have a couple of > > questions about what is on it. I'll just ask one for now. The 1 year old > > male child was named Fletcher. From what I have heard from some of you, > > there was a Henry that was born to Adam and Hannah in 1849. Is Henry the > > same person as Fletcher? Or maybe was Fletcher born in 1849 (like it > > says on the census) and Henry may have been born in 1851 (after the > > census was taken in Nov. of 1850). Any thoughts or helps? Crystal

Crystal, Fletcher = Henry Fletcher Starr born 1849 to Adam Starr and Hannah Rupp/ Roup/Roupe. That should clear it up for you. He's the Henry that married Mary Lee (supposedly). di Crystal Burleson wrote: > I have posted the 1850 census with this family on it on the MyFamily.com > site in the file cabinet. I hope you all enjoy it. I have a couple of > questions about what is on it. I'll just ask one for now. The 1 year old > male child was named Fletcher. From what I have heard from some of you, > there was a Henry that was born to Adam and Hannah in 1849. Is Henry the > same person as Fletcher? Or maybe was Fletcher born in 1849 (like it > says on the census) and Henry may have been born in 1851 (after the > census was taken in Nov. of 1850). Any thoughts or helps? Crystal