Looking for help on early life of Caleb Starr. From the Nancy Ward website: "Nancy Harlan...she married Caleb Starr about 1793.(90) Caleb was born 1758 in Chester County, Pennsylvania.(91) Caleb(92) was the son of Alexander Starr and Deborah Bryant. Caleb died 1843 in Evansville, Washington County, Arkansas, at age 85.(93) His body was interred 1843 at cemetery unknown in Evansville, Washington County, Arkansas. Caleb together with Joseph McMinn immigrated to Tennessee about 1775. He owned and lived on Section 9 of FTIS, Range 1, East on Conasauga Creek, in McMinn County, Tennessee. Nancy was 1/2 Cherokee Indian blood. " This says he came to TN at age 17 and married Nancy at age 35. Did he have an earlier wife? Did relatives come along? The town of Conasuaga is on US hiway 411 near the TN/GA state line, east of Chattanooga. Down the road a piece is New Echota (where removal treaty was signed). Would appreciate any references or tidbits that expand on Caleb and his contemporaries. Adrian

Hello All, On Ancestry.com starting June 1 they are offering a database on Connecticut residents who fought in the French and Indian War. I find a David Starr listed several times. There are also several others listed. I would be curious if any of you are familiar with any of the names and their connections. Here is the site address I clicked on.. http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3983.htm Let me know if any of y'all "connect" Marie

Click on this and have fun reading the Interview of Clarence Starr... <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/pioneer.htm">Indian Pioneer Papers Index</A> don't forget to click on the second interview..there is two Interviews...enjoy reading them...LBCane@aol.com

Stacey, You're right in a way. Tom Starr was also a treaty signer. In fact there were two times. The first time, after the Cherokee government had tried everything they could to capture Tom because of his tracking down and assassinating those who murdered his father, the U.S. government offered him a treaty. It was a unique situation. It isn't often that the government signs a treaty with an individual. They would pardon him on all counts if he would agree to return home and stop the hostilities. He agreed and it seemed to be at an end. However, after two years they came and for whatever reason tried to arrest him. He would not submit to that and escaped. He again was pursued by the authorities and had narrow escapes, etc. The second time that he was a treaty signer happened after the change of administration in the Cherokee Nation that followed the death of John Ross and the election of Louis Downing as Chief. He was no longer interested in the warfare that he had waged since all of those involved in the death of his father and whom he had relentlessly pursued were now dead. The U.S. government again offered him a treaty. They offered to pardon all of his offenses and cancel all warrants against him if he would return to his home, live in peace, and abide by the law from that time on. He was more than ready to accept this treaty and signed gladly. He lived the rest of his life in peace until his death at the age of 74 years. So, you see, he was also a treaty signer. Crystal SLDuston@aol.com wrote: > The information I have is that TOM STARR was the treaty signer, His sons also > went on a "rampage" after their dad's death and killed several Cherrokees > > Stacey

Speaking of the Ohio Starrs, that's where mine went. My direct line was in Stow, Portage Co, Ohio by 1809 coming from Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT. They left Ohio, passing through Lake Co IL where one child was born in 1866 and on to Pottawattamie Co IA for the next child, (my immediate family was there until 1957). I haven't really checked to see what part of the family stayed in OH, but I know some were in Erie, Athens and Huron Cos. Connie in NM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie and Bill Bailey" <mbaile2@bellsouth.net> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > I want to add a little to this discussion, although it won't necessarily add > any fact to add to Linda's information. The earliest Starr my family has > been able to trace is David Starr who said he was born in Ohio in 1816. He > married Emmeline (we think Sneed/Snead) and their first children were born > in Missouri. We don't know which county in Missouri or whether they married > there. Emmeline says on the census she was born in Kentucky. > Their oldest son was named John. My Starr family moved into Arkansas > shortly before the 1850 census. David Starr's son married a Yandell who's > mother's maiden name was Adair. That was James Amos Starr. His brother > married her sister. The Yandells were from North Carolina. I have puzzled > off and on whether the Starrs and Yandells met each other in Arkansas or if > the families had traveled in the same areas over the years. > We have thought there was some Indian blood in the family line but have > only been able to positively identify it as it comes in through the > Yandell/Adair union. My mother and I thought, without facts to prove it, > that our line came originally from Pa. I have also wondered if it didn't > come from Moravian beginnings. > So far, I have been unable to definitely link my David to any of the > established lines. I guess ours are some of the "lost lines of Starrs". > There were several Starr families in Arkansas who did not seem to be > related. There were also Starr families in Ohio that we can't seem to link > to. I'm sure it's possible that some of these Starrs were connected in some > way and that THEY knew the connection over the years without thinking it was > important enough to stress. It would be a little like some of us knowing who > some of our cousins married but didn't see them enough for our children to > remember them. > And, one more thing, I read in the last several months of a Starr line > that left the colonial area and came to the Georgia area. They left here and > went to the Ar, Mo, In. area. > Like I said, I wanted to join the discussion-just didn't necessarily have > any facts to be helpful, just background. > Marie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Starr81 <starr81@ix.netcom.com> > To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > > > > >been among them. Thus, Caleb may not have been the only progenitor of > the > > >Cherokee Starrs. However he and his sons, being treaty signers, are the > > best > > >known. > > > > This is a very good point brought up by Adrian; in fact, I plan to > > provide documentation (when things settle down and I relocate it) for > > Caleb's birthyear in 1764 rather than the usual estimated 1758 which > proves > > beyond > > a doubt, the 'Indian trader' attributed as Caleb Starr in Ramsay's History > > of Tennessee or Summer's Annals of SW VA can't be the one who married > Nancy > > Harlan. > > I have several sources which say "an Indian trader" / "an Indian trader > named > > STARR" and finally "Caleb Starr" harangued the Indian chiefs to not attack > > the whites. This was during the RW. I've often wondered who this "Indian > > trader Starr" is? Or could he be only attributed to Caleb, so wasn't a > > STARR. But > > certainly there are enough southern STARRs without lineage out there to > NOT > > rule out any possibility along the lines of another Indian connection. > > Linda > > > > >

Hi, Still looking for anyone related to Joseph Starr, born 5/4/1844 in Germany. Married Anna Schilling, had 2 children Frank and Mary Elizabeth. Mary was my great grandmother (Married Aloysius John Bernard Offenbacher) Mary was born in Chilton, WI Dec 12, 1881. Has anyone seen or heard of any of these. Thanks for listening again. Renee

The information I have is that TOM STARR was the treaty signer, His sons also went on a "rampage" after their dad's death and killed several Cherrokees Stacey

Cherokee History Resources: http://pages.tca.net/martikw/histlink.html The Cherokee Connection http://www.titchenal.com/Cherokee/index.html Fort Smith Criminal Case File for Sam and Belle Starr, 1882 http://www.nara.gov/nara/EXTRA/fssbstar.html Cherokee Archival Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~cherokee/ Outlaws http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/yankyheaven/Outlaws.html Native American Geneology http://hometown.aol.com/bbbenge/front.html Henery Starr http://www.gunslinger.com/henry.htm Trails West http://www.over-land.com/links.html djc Genealogical Database http://home.flash.net/~djc/genweb/djc/djc.html ORVF Genealogy Database http://orvf.com/ Belle Starr and Her Roots http://www.shirleyassociation.com/belle_starr_and_her_roots.htm Belle Starr gravesite http://www.dimensional.com/~sgrimm/bstarr.htm "Bandit Queen" http://militaryhistory.com/WildWest/articles/1997/08972_text.htm DESCENDANTS OF NANCY WARD http://www.nancyward.com/ Caleb STARR http://www.my-ged.com/db/page/longacre/07591 WELCOME TO STARR LINKS http://www.generation.net/~starr/starr.htm Starr http://www.placesnamed.com/S/t/starr.asp Starr Family Genealogy Forum http://genforum.genealogy.com/starr/ Starr Database http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rrooy12/starr.htm USGenWeb Project http://www.usgenweb.org/ Victor Starr homepage http://www.angelfire.com/pa/cyberstarr/index.html ANCESTORS DATA BASE http://www.gorge.net/aff/ Beer, Devon - Starr house http://www.beer-devon.co.uk/ Cemetery Records Online http://www.interment.net/ Family Find http://www.familyfind.com/ Family History http://www.familyhistory.com/ Family Search http://www.familysearch.com/ Enjoy - David Starr

Old Tom's grandson, son of George "Hop" Starr is quoted as saying "I've robbed more banks than any man in America". He robbed two banks in the same town, in the same hour yet he could spend his time reading the classics, a supply of which he always carried in his saddle bags. Three times he face what appeared to be certain death. Twice he was sentenced to death only to receive a presidential pardon. Three times he turned "respectable". only to returned to the dangerous life he really enjoyed. He starred as himself in a motion picture, "A Debtor to the Law" - his attempt to show that crime doesn't pay -then promptly ignored his own advice. Only once in his life did he kill a man, yet his exploits eclipsed anything the James-Younger, Dalton-Doolittle gangs had done On Friday, February 18, 1921 he and his companions drove into Harrison, Arkansas and after cutting all the communication lines, entered the People's National Bank. Starr gathered up $6000 dollars and ordered the safe opened. W.J.Meyers, former bank president, picked up a hidden rifle and shot the unsuspecting Starr. Struck in the right side just below the ribs, he fell to the floor paralyzed, as the bullet passed through the spine. Starr refused to identify his companions. He died the following Tuesday about 11 P.M. On his death bed he said "I'm the richest robber in the whole country and nobody is going to find my cache". And it hasn't been found to this day -more than 24 bank robberies. There is much more information available on Henry Starr in the book "Last of the Real BADMEN". David Starr - --------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Crystal Burleson <cburleso@cybertrails.com> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > Vanessa, I have several Chambers, two of whom married Starrs, but none match your names > and dates. Sorry. I'm sure that they are part of the family though. Many of the Starrs > seem to have moved to Texas. Crystal > > Vanessa Burzynski wrote: > > > I have been following this with great interest. My husband's great-grandfather was > > William Bart Starr (b.1882). His gg-grandfather was Henry Starr (b.1864) from > > Georgia and married Mattie Jane Chambers. They came to Texas in the later part of > > 1800's. We believe that they are related to the Cherokee Starrs that lived in Texas > > during that time and were related to Sam and Belle (Shirley) Starr, but we have not > > found the connection. Anyone that can help us with this line would be greatly > > appreciated. > > > > Vanessa Burzynski > > Texas > >

James married sisters Nellie and Susie Maugh (sequentially, not simultaneously) and between them there had 20 children. James was directly involved with and signed the Treaty of New Echota on December 29, 1835. This treaty resulted in the removal of the Cherokees from there lands, and capital, at New Echota, Georgia and sent them to western Arkansas and Oklahoma. This trek was later to become known as the infamous "Trail of Tears". James wife bore him a child in Mississippi during the journey and among the victims of a cholera outbreak during the trip was one child of James Starr. After the journey a feud developed between the tribe and James, his twelve sons and two confederate white men were pursued for ten years. It was more than likely it was this type of life that lead to the lawlessness of James Starr's sons. The feud was caused by the treaty of 1835 and continued until 1845.It's said that "thirty-two men surrounded his house, just about sun-up on a Sunday morning and riddled his body with bullets. Tom his son said years later "you know there was thirty-two men that slipped up and killed my daddy, well I got most of them except just a few that got sick and died in bed before I could get to them". That was his kind of justice. According to the book "History of the Cherokee Indians" by Emmet Starr. Treaty With the Cherokees, 1835 (p85) On page 95 under "Treaty Binding When Ratified. Article 19" - James Starr was a signer of the Echota treaty. On page 136 it also referrs to James Starr as "... on of the signers of the treaty of 1835..." David Starr - --------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Crystal Burleson <cburleso@cybertrails.com> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > Neal, You are correct. James Starr was the treaty signer. He was a son of Caleb > Starr and Nancy Harlan (who was 1/2 Cherokee). James married two Cherokee > sisters. Crystal > > Neal & Barbara wrote: > > > Just for the record I don't believe CALAB STARR was a ttreaty signer correct > > ME if I'm wrong! Neal Shrum > > -- > >

Vanessa, where in GA is this Henry Starr? His gg-grandfather was Henry Starr (b.1864) from >Georgia and married Mattie Jane Chambers. They came to Texas in the later part of >1800's. This sounds remarkably like my Henry Starr's line ... There is a link from my webpage -- URL in my sig file -- to the Inman, GA UMC webpage which has several articles on families in the Fayette/Henry Co. GA area -- including my Henry Starr line and that of at least one CHAMBERS family. You might look for connections there. Linda Linda Sparks Starr starr81@ix.netcom.com http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AC68E005D733ABADED96F9B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There were many treaties so he could have been involved with some of them -- the treaty we're most concerned with is the Treaty of New Echota -- in 1835 -- was the beginning of the Trail of Tears episode in Cherokee history. Caleb was not a signer of this treaty. His name is not connected to this treaty in any way at all from what I have been reading in my books on Cherokee history... And as I said, he could have been involved with the makings of other treaties -- there were several of them... di Adryandav@aol.com wrote: > Neal & Crystal - > > I only know what I read on the web - true or false (hah!). Caleb was > supposedly "involved" in treaties, maybe not a signer. > > Adrian > > >From the web: > > A white man of Quaker parentage immigrated from Pennsylvania to the Cherokee > country (now eastern Tennessee). He was named Caleb Starr, and in about 1790 > Caleb married a Cherokee woman named Nancy Harlan, and in so doing he became > a member of the Cherokee Nation. They had twelve children, including Ezekial > Starr, James Starr, and Joseph Starr. Caleb Starr was involved with both the > Treaty of 1816 and the Treaty of 1819, the removal treaties. Cherokee leaders > attempted to preserve their remaining eastern lands, and had established a > new government by 1828. John Ross was elected principal chief. Ross and his > followers opposed removal. Cherokees who willingly immigrated to the new, > western lands were known as the "Old Settlers". > > Caleb Starr and his sons supported emigration. Ezekial Starr and his family > travelled to the west in 1834. James Starr became a member of the Treaty > Party, which advocated total tribal removal, and with other members he signed > the controversial Treaty of 1835. James Starr moved to the western Cherokee > Nation in 1837. --------------AC68E005D733ABADED96F9B9 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="razzberri.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Diana Starr Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="razzberri.vcf" begin:vcard n:Cloutier;Diana Starr x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:razzberri@earthlink.net x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Diana Starr Cloutier end:vcard --------------AC68E005D733ABADED96F9B9--

<A HREF="http://www.cviog.uga.edu/Projects/gainfo/chertrea.htm/cheragen.htm"> Click here: Treaty of Cherokee Agency, July 8, 1817</A> No Starrs mentioned. Adrian

<A HREF="http://www.cviog.uga.edu/Projects/gainfo/chertrea.htm/washing5.htm"> Click here: Treaty of Washington, Feb. 27, 1819</A> James Starr (son of Caleb?) is listed as a witness. Adrian

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/9097/Echota.htm">Click here: The New Echota Treaty</A> The above website lists the signers. Among them there is James Starr, a Chambers & a Moore. (Someone on the mailing list is researching Chambers and I am researching Starrs and Moores. Very long shots, of course.) Adrian

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1300337A6B836D41C741C404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Silly Bro! No, Caleb Starr was not a treaty signer. Guess I can't correct you then. LOL How are you doing? Miss you being active on the list. Come on home to us! Love and hugs, di Neal & Barbara wrote: > Just for the record I don't believe CALAB STARR was a ttreaty signer correct > ME if I'm wrong! Neal Shrum > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Crystal Burleson" <cburleso@cybertrails.com> > To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > > > Right on, Adrian! I totally agree. I've done some research recently on > the > > history of the Cherokee in Virginia (WV, TN, KY, etc.). There were Starrs > who > > were Cherokee who never left that area as well as many other family names. > They > > reportedly tried to blend into the general population of the day by > dressing and > > behaving like the whites, but maintained some traditions and handed down > within > > their families the knowledge that they were Cherokee. Survival was one > reason, > > and wanting to remain on their own lands was another. I, too, know that > Caleb > > Starr had relatives who so far have been unacounted for in our research. > Perhaps > > one of them was the one that I am looking for. Adam Starr doesn't seem to > fit > > into any of the other lines mentioned, and the verbal history of being > Cherokee > > is just too frequent within the various branches of his descendants to > ignore it, > > although I do think it is very possible that European blood mixed with > that > > Cherokee along the way--father's side? mother's side? That was also quite > common > > in the area. Thanks for your input. Crystal > > > > Adryandav@aol.com wrote: > > > > > To all - > > > > > > In response to Linda - > > > > > > In a 1906 Guion Miller claim, my ggf said that his gm Elizabeth (Moore) > > > Browning born 1776 in NC was of Cherokee blood and that her mother was a > > > Starr of the "old Starr family". Elizabeth married John Browning who > was > > > from MD. I am guessing that they married in NC as that is where all > their > > > children were born. An old map shows the Mississippi River as the > western > > > boundary of NC, thus including most of today's TN. If I am not > mistaken, > > > Caleb Starr and his wife the half-Cherokee Nancy Harlan, lived in Easter > n TN, > > > the Cherokee heartland.. I am also guessing that an earlier generation > of > > > white men from PA and elsewhere had already reached that area - Ross, > Adair, > > > Starr, Harlan, McMinn, etc. Parents and/or siblings of Caleb Starr may > have > > > been among them. Thus, Caleb may not have been the only progenitor of > the > > > Cherokee Starrs. However he and his sons, being treaty signers, are the > best > > > known. > > > > > > Food for thought! > > > > > > Adrian Davis, adryandav@aol.com > > > > > > Linda Starr Sparks wrote: > > > > > > ..... One is the PA Quakers, many of whom ended up in what is now West > > > Virginia; another, the Cherokee Starrs, whose founder Caleb may have > come > > > from the PA Qauker group -- his mother was a Quaker, but his father > wasn't, > > > he was born in PA. > > > > > > And then another distinct group, but also 'loose' because we haven't > > > found the connection to each other, let alone any of the major groups -- > > > the STARRs in Maryland from 1748 through 1810 or so. Included is my > Henry > > > Starr, b. 1752 in MD d. 1821 in GA. Personally I've tried to connect him > to > > > the PA Quakers and the Cherokee Starrs without success; I'm now looking > at > > > the Dr. Comfort line. BUT there are a few other STARR families in > Maryland > > > who appear late 1770s/1780s, some went to IN, others to Richmond, VA and > one > > > member of this VA line ended up in GA 1830s I believe. I believe there > > > is another MD STARR named John, who moved to SC and became "John Starr > of > > > Beach Island". > > > > > > If anyone has any information on the Maryland bunch (any of them) > > > please post to the list / me. We need all the help we can get! Linda > > > > > > Linda Sparks Starr starr81@ix.netcom.com > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lksstarr/............................ > > --------------1300337A6B836D41C741C404 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="razzberri.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Diana Starr Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="razzberri.vcf" begin:vcard n:Cloutier;Diana Starr x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:razzberri@earthlink.net x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Diana Starr Cloutier end:vcard --------------1300337A6B836D41C741C404--

FYI: Belle Shirley Reed married Sam Starr on June 5, 1880, in a Cherokee ceremony. Her children by Jim Reed, Pearl and Eddie, were ages twelve and nine by this time. (From the book Starr Tracks by Phillip W. Steele). I am a STARR descendant from the Stoehr/Starr family in NC. Doris -----Original Message----- From: Neal & Barbara [mailto:block@thurston.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:32 PM To: STARR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs Hello if this HENRY STARR you mention is same one who was famous for being the most proliferate bank robber to date then you have already LINKED yourself to Belle (Shirley) Starr and etc......Neal Shrum (Starr decendant) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa Burzynski" <burzynsk@swbell.net> To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > I have been following this with great interest. My husband's great-grandfather was > William Bart Starr (b.1882). His gg-grandfather was Henry Starr (b.1864) from > Georgia and married Mattie Jane Chambers. They came to Texas in the later part of > 1800's. We believe that they are related to the Cherokee Starrs that lived in Texas > during that time and were related to Sam and Belle (Shirley) Starr, but we have not > found the connection. Anyone that can help us with this line would be greatly > appreciated. > > Vanessa Burzynski > Texas > >

Vanessa, I have several Chambers, two of whom married Starrs, but none match your names and dates. Sorry. I'm sure that they are part of the family though. Many of the Starrs seem to have moved to Texas. Crystal Vanessa Burzynski wrote: > I have been following this with great interest. My husband's great-grandfather was > William Bart Starr (b.1882). His gg-grandfather was Henry Starr (b.1864) from > Georgia and married Mattie Jane Chambers. They came to Texas in the later part of > 1800's. We believe that they are related to the Cherokee Starrs that lived in Texas > during that time and were related to Sam and Belle (Shirley) Starr, but we have not > found the connection. Anyone that can help us with this line would be greatly > appreciated. > > Vanessa Burzynski > Texas

The information that I have on Henry Starr, the notorious bank robber, does not link up with my husband's line. Here is what I have for Henry Starr, the bank robber. Henry Starr was born on Dec 2, 1873 in Fort Gibson, Indian Territory to Tom Starr and Mary (Scott) Starr. Sam Starr (Belle's husband) was his uncle. He was 1/4 Cherokee. His father died at an early age and his mother remarried a man named C. N. Walker. Henry Starr married Miss Ollie Griffin and had a son named Theodore Roosevelt Starr. He married is second wife, Hulda Starr, on February 22, 1920 and moved to Claremore, OK. He was shot in the back on February 18, 1921 during a bank robbery in Harrison, Arkansas and died on February 22, 1921. Vanessa Burzynski Texas Neal & Barbara wrote: > Hello if this HENRY STARR you mention is same one who was famous for being > the most proliferate bank robber to date then you have already LINKED > yourself to Belle (Shirley) Starr and etc......Neal Shrum (Starr decendant) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vanessa Burzynski" <burzynsk@swbell.net> > To: <STARR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: Cherokee Starrs > > > I have been following this with great interest. My husband's > great-grandfather was > > William Bart Starr (b.1882). His gg-grandfather was Henry Starr (b.1864) > from > > Georgia and married Mattie Jane Chambers. They came to Texas in the later > part of > > 1800's. We believe that they are related to the Cherokee Starrs that > lived in Texas > > during that time and were related to Sam and Belle (Shirley) Starr, but we > have not > > found the connection. Anyone that can help us with this line would be > greatly > > appreciated. > > > > Vanessa Burzynski > > Texas > > > >

Neal, You are correct. James Starr was the treaty signer. He was a son of Caleb Starr and Nancy Harlan (who was 1/2 Cherokee). James married two Cherokee sisters. Crystal Neal & Barbara wrote: > Just for the record I don't believe CALAB STARR was a ttreaty signer correct > ME if I'm wrong! Neal Shrum > --