This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CWJBAIB/274.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: While it is sometimes believed that Thomas is a son of Myles by his first wife, Rose, this is not proved and extremely unlikely. It is listed on the mayflower.com website as one of the myths of descendancy. Myles and Rose had no children. Barbara who came over in 1623 on the Anne married Myles and they had Charles (died young), Alexander (whom Myles claimed as oldest son and heir in his will of 1654), Lora, Josiah, John, Charles, and Myles. You might want to check out the archives of this message board site and the standish message board at ancestry.com. Thomas is probably a cousin from one of the other "houses" of Standish. A lot of things on the internet are put up without adequate verification (proof). I've seen people list Barbara's maiden name as Mullins - this was Priscilla's maiden name; Often, "family tradition" is listed as source and proof. It is not. Good and accurate genealogy necessitates good research and accurate sources. Anything less and hundreds of us, perhaps thousands go on with diseased trees. Keep searching! Good luck.
Thank you for further clarification. I always figured he was a cousin but of course I wish we could find out which family of Standishes... Deb donstandish@yahoo.com wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CWJBAIB/274.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: While it is sometimes believed that Thomas is a son of Myles by his first wife, Rose, this is not proved and extremely unlikely. It is listed on the mayflower.com website as one of the myths of descendancy. Myles and Rose had no children. Barbara who came over in 1623 on the Anne married Myles and they had Charles (died young), Alexander (whom Myles claimed as oldest son and heir in his will of 1654), Lora, Josiah, John, Charles, and Myles. You might want to check out the archives of this message board site and the standish message board at ancestry.com. Thomas is probably a cousin from one of the other "houses" of Standish. A lot of things on the internet are put up without adequate verification (proof). I've seen people list Barbara's maiden name as Mullins - this was Priscilla's maiden name; Often, "family tradition" is listed as source and proof. It is not. Good and accurate genealogy necessitates good research and accurate sources. Anything less and hundreds of us, perhaps thousands go on with diseased trees. Keep searching! Good luck. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes
Hi. I am wondering what criteria you are using to say that it is "extremely unlikely" that Thomas was not a son of Myles. Just because he was not mentioned in his will does not prove anything one way or the other. It could well be that Myles was estranged from his first born son and left everything to the children of his second wife. I am not sure whether or not Thomas was Myles son or not, but the following are a couple of observations that bear consideration. 1. Thomas Standish was said to have come from Plymouth Colony to Wethersfield about 1636. His ancestral connections are broken by imperfect records, but his descendants are led to believe by authentic traditions, that he was a son of Captain Miles Standish by his first wife, Rose. If not a son, he may have been either a nephew or a younger brother, and he seems to have filled the same role at Wethersfield as did the famous warrior at Plymouth. He was keeper of the fort, a soldier in the Pequot expedition of 1637, and was granted land for that service on Fort Street. It is said he bore a striking physical resemblance to Captain Miles Standish, and the continuation of family names, as well as traits of character, bear out the relationship well. 2. Thomas Standish came to Wethersfield somewhere between 1636 and 1638. He was reported to be the first of 2 children born to Myles Standish by his first wife, Rose Hanley. Thomas was born in 1612, followed by a girl about 2 years later. Legend has it that when he (Myles) decided to come to the "New World", they left the children in the care of his brother due to the dangerous aspects of the voyage, and were to follow at a later date if everything went well. This concern was not unfounded, as Rose died shortly after their arrival, but before they ever left the ship. It is not known if Myles ever sent for the children. There is no further record of the girl, but when Thomas showed up in Wethersfield, he is purported to have arrived from Plymouth, leading one to believe that perhaps he may have been with his father. ----- Original Message --- -- From: "D Hanna" <dsoderhan@yahoo.com> To: <STANDISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [STANDISH] Re: Thomas/Myles Standish relationship > Thank you for further clarification. I always figured he was a cousin but of course I wish we could find out which family of Standishes... > Deb > > donstandish@yahoo.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CWJBAIB/274.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > While it is sometimes believed that Thomas is a son of Myles by his first wife, Rose, this is not proved and extremely unlikely. It is listed on the mayflower.com website as one of the myths of descendancy. > Myles and Rose had no children. Barbara who came over in 1623 on the Anne married Myles and they had Charles (died young), Alexander (whom Myles claimed as oldest son and heir in his will of 1654), Lora, Josiah, John, Charles, and Myles. You might want to check out the archives of this message board site and the standish message board at ancestry.com. Thomas is probably a cousin from one of the other "houses" of Standish. > A lot of things on the internet are put up without adequate verification (proof). I've seen people list Barbara's maiden name as Mullins - this was Priscilla's maiden name; Often, "family tradition" is listed as source and proof. It is not. > Good and accurate genealogy necessitates good research and accurate sources. Anything less and hundreds of us, perhaps thousands go on with diseased trees. Keep searching! Good luck. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >
Whether or not Thomas was related to Myles, from what we know of his past accomplishments he is an ancestor of whom we can be proud. ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Hanna" <dsoderhan@yahoo.com> To: <STANDISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [STANDISH] Re: Thomas/Myles Standish relationship > Thank you for further clarification. I always figured he was a cousin but of course I wish we could find out which family of Standishes... > Deb > > donstandish@yahoo.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CWJBAIB/274.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > While it is sometimes believed that Thomas is a son of Myles by his first wife, Rose, this is not proved and extremely unlikely. It is listed on the mayflower.com website as one of the myths of descendancy. > Myles and Rose had no children. Barbara who came over in 1623 on the Anne married Myles and they had Charles (died young), Alexander (whom Myles claimed as oldest son and heir in his will of 1654), Lora, Josiah, John, Charles, and Myles. You might want to check out the archives of this message board site and the standish message board at ancestry.com. Thomas is probably a cousin from one of the other "houses" of Standish. > A lot of things on the internet are put up without adequate verification (proof). I've seen people list Barbara's maiden name as Mullins - this was Priscilla's maiden name; Often, "family tradition" is listed as source and proof. It is not. > Good and accurate genealogy necessitates good research and accurate sources. Anything less and hundreds of us, perhaps thousands go on with diseased trees. Keep searching! Good luck. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >