Just picked up on this one and wondered if you have considered he may have been adopted into the family? If so his name and definitely surname will be different unless born to someone with the same surname? Jan -----Original Message----- From: Andy Micklethwaite Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MICKLETHWAITE/WYLES Thanks Steve. 3 very good thoughts. Now just waiting for the lottery or a premium bond to get funding for the certs for the ONS! Cheers, Andy. At 14:03 15/10/2012, you wrote: >On 15/10/12 11:13, Andy Micklethwaite wrote: >> Vance was born SepQ 1957 in Stoke RD, mother's maiden name WYLES. >> I can't find a Micklethwaite/Wyles marriage anywhere, . The birth in >> Stoke is a rare BMD event for a Micklethwaite in Stoke - the only other >> one I've come across is for my parents in 1942 - I do have the cert for >> that :-) >> >> Best Wishes, Andy. > >Andy - have you considered these possibilities. > >1 Vance was born out of wedlock but the father , ???? Micklethwaite >agreed he was the father > >2 when the parents married she was a Widow (divorcee) and therefore >would have married under another name. > > >Last but not least why think of getting his marriage certificate rather >than his BIRTH certificate. > On his marriage cert you will get who he states is his father, whereas >on the birth certificate you will get his Mother for definite, together >with any former names she had, and also who SHE says is his father !! > >I know which I would go for > >Steve >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >MATERIALS. >****************************** >PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of >messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. >It's usually from an infected source! >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jan - something else to think about. Best Wishes, Andy. At 20:27 16/10/2012, you wrote: >Just picked up on this one and wondered if you have considered he may have >been adopted into the family? If so his name and definitely surname will be >different unless born to someone with the same surname? > >Jan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andy Micklethwaite >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 AM >To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MICKLETHWAITE/WYLES > >Thanks Steve. 3 very good thoughts. Now just waiting for the lottery or a >premium bond to get funding for the certs for the ONS! > >Cheers, Andy. > >At 14:03 15/10/2012, you wrote: >>On 15/10/12 11:13, Andy Micklethwaite wrote: >>> Vance was born SepQ 1957 in Stoke RD, mother's maiden name WYLES. >>> I can't find a Micklethwaite/Wyles marriage anywhere, . The birth in >>> Stoke is a rare BMD event for a Micklethwaite in Stoke - the only other >>> one I've come across is for my parents in 1942 - I do have the cert for >>> that :-) >>> >>> Best Wishes, Andy. >> >>Andy - have you considered these possibilities. >> >>1 Vance was born out of wedlock but the father , ???? Micklethwaite >>agreed he was the father >> >>2 when the parents married she was a Widow (divorcee) and therefore >>would have married under another name. >> >> >>Last but not least why think of getting his marriage certificate rather >>than his BIRTH certificate. >> On his marriage cert you will get who he states is his father, whereas >>on the birth certificate you will get his Mother for definite, together >>with any former names she had, and also who SHE says is his father !! >> >>I know which I would go for >> >>Steve >>****************************** >>ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >>MATERIALS. >>****************************** >>PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of >>messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. >>It's usually from an infected source! >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply >to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >MATERIALS. >****************************** >PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of >messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. >It's usually from an infected source! >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >****************************** >PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Andy 1 The Illegitimacy Act of 1926 allowed children to be re-registered with their mother and father details although their parents were married AFTER the birth - so also look for a marriage after 1957, maybe quite a long time after ! ( ie 20 - 30 yrs even). NB Any re-registration would NOT show on the birth Cert 2 There are quite a number of MICKLETHWAITE / WILD(S) marriages registered esp one in Cheshire in 1950 So when you have Vance's Certs maybe check these out Regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Micklethwaite Sent: 17 October 2012 08:49 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MICKLETHWAITE/WYLES Thanks Jan - something else to think about. Best Wishes, Andy. At 20:27 16/10/2012, you wrote: >Just picked up on this one and wondered if you have considered he may have >been adopted into the family? If so his name and definitely surname will be >different unless born to someone with the same surname? > >Jan > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andy Micklethwaite >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 AM >To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MICKLETHWAITE/WYLES > >Thanks Steve. 3 very good thoughts. Now just waiting for the lottery or a >premium bond to get funding for the certs for the ONS! > >Cheers, Andy. > >At 14:03 15/10/2012, you wrote: >>On 15/10/12 11:13, Andy Micklethwaite wrote: >>> Vance was born SepQ 1957 in Stoke RD, mother's maiden name WYLES. >>> I can't find a Micklethwaite/Wyles marriage anywhere, . The birth in >>> Stoke is a rare BMD event for a Micklethwaite in Stoke - the only other >>> one I've come across is for my parents in 1942 - I do have the cert for >>> that :-) >>> >>> Best Wishes, Andy. >> >>Andy - have you considered these possibilities. >> >>1 Vance was born out of wedlock but the father , ???? Micklethwaite >>agreed he was the father >> >>2 when the parents married she was a Widow (divorcee) and therefore >>would have married under another name. >> >> >>Last but not least why think of getting his marriage certificate rather >>than his BIRTH certificate. >> On his marriage cert you will get who he states is his father, whereas >>on the birth certificate you will get his Mother for definite, together >>with any former names she had, and also who SHE says is his father !! >> >>I know which I would go for >> >>Steve >>****************************** >>ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >>MATERIALS. >>****************************** >>PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of >>messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. >>It's usually from an infected source! >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply >to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >MATERIALS. >****************************** >PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of >messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. >It's usually from an infected source! >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >****************************** >PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill Thanks - Wild/Wyles is certainly a possibility for a mistake, and Chester is none too far away. Brilliant thought. I'll follow that up straight away. Best WIshes, Andy. At 11:04 17/10/2012, you wrote: >Andy > >1 The Illegitimacy Act of 1926 allowed children to be re-registered >with their mother and father details although their parents were married >AFTER the birth - so also look for a marriage after 1957, maybe quite a long >time after ! ( ie 20 - 30 yrs even). NB Any re-registration would NOT show >on the birth Cert > >2 There are quite a number of MICKLETHWAITE / WILD(S) marriages >registered esp one in Cheshire in 1950 > >So when you have Vance's Certs maybe check these out > >Regards > >Bill > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Micklethwaite >Sent: 17 October 2012 08:49 >To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MICKLETHWAITE/WYLES > >Thanks Jan - something else to think about. >Best Wishes, Andy. > >At 20:27 16/10/2012, you wrote: >>Just picked up on this one and wondered if you have considered he may have >>been adopted into the family? If so his name and definitely surname will be > >>different unless born to someone with the same surname? >> >>Jan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Andy Micklethwaite >>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 AM >>To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MICKLETHWAITE/WYLES >> >>Thanks Steve. 3 very good thoughts. Now just waiting for the lottery or a >>premium bond to get funding for the certs for the ONS! >> >>Cheers, Andy. >> >>At 14:03 15/10/2012, you wrote: >>>On 15/10/12 11:13, Andy Micklethwaite wrote: >>>> Vance was born SepQ 1957 in Stoke RD, mother's maiden name WYLES. >>>> I can't find a Micklethwaite/Wyles marriage anywhere, . The birth in >>>> Stoke is a rare BMD event for a Micklethwaite in Stoke - the only other >>>> one I've come across is for my parents in 1942 - I do have the cert for >>>> that :-) >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, Andy. >>> >>>Andy - have you considered these possibilities. >>> >>>1 Vance was born out of wedlock but the father , ???? Micklethwaite >>>agreed he was the father >>> >>>2 when the parents married she was a Widow (divorcee) and therefore >>>would have married under another name. >>> >>> >>>Last but not least why think of getting his marriage certificate rather >>>than his BIRTH certificate. >>> On his marriage cert you will get who he states is his father, whereas >>>on the birth certificate you will get his Mother for definite, together >>>with any former names she had, and also who SHE says is his father !! >>> >>>I know which I would go for >>> >>>Steve >>>****************************** >>>ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>>apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > >>>MATERIALS. >>>****************************** >>>PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE >of >>>messages making it onto the List with a single URL. 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