Hi Michael, we ALL know that feeling of trawling through many records trying to find someone, and we end up finding that their birth was not registered or their mum died and the neighbour took them in.....in one mad moment, trying to find my Spiers in Scotland, I printed all of them out and went through them one by one...pages and pages it took...days and days it took....eventually found them and not where I was told either. Do not give up. many more records are coming on line and sometimes you just have to wait a bit for a new census or parish records to be available. All the best. Robyn Shaw, Qld, Australia On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Michael Wright <rahmuss@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Diana, > Thanks for giving me some hope. Last night was fairly depressing. I > spent about three hours trying to look for one of my ancestors' husband > with no luck. George MOSS and Sarah had a daughter named Elizabeth, and we > know nothing of who she married, or if she died. We only know that she > shows up in the 1841 census and then disappears. Haven't found any deaths > that I could see. She could have crossed the country and married someone. > I searched through 3,338 records last night and collected 38 individuals > (birth place wasn't exact; but close enough to not discount), Elizabeth > ___surname___, some of them are likely repeats, leaving about 30 left. > > -- Leek -- > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74P-TFD Elizabeth STOKER > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ6R-8CG Elizabeth STOKES > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9KQ-HRS Elizabeth STOKES > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KM-JY7 Elizabeth MASON > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-NVV Elizabeth MASON > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3T2-MJ3 Elizabeth FLINT > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XS7X-LFG Elizabeth FLINT > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KM-KRS Elizabeth TIPPER > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XSXQ-GBK Elizabeth GEORGE > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7V3-TL3 Elizabeth HULSON > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VZ-YM7 Elizabeth HILTON > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMZJ-CRJ Elizabeth ADAMS > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3BP-GSW Elizabeth ABBOTT > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VZ-BT9 Elizabeth ABBOTT > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3VG-NKK Elizabeth TITLEY > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KM-GG6 Elizabeth TRAFFORD > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-N1Y Elizabeth MAGNIAC > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-D14 Elizabeth HODRIEN > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3V6-JDX Elizabeth PIDGEON > > -- ...Staffordshire -- > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7T8-BJ1 Elizabeth LEWIS > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M749-P68 Elizabeth ALLEN > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M749-ZHQ Elizabeth ALLEN > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VY-K68 Elizabeth BISSELL > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7D9-4ZL Elizabeth FRANCIS > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7JQ-F99 Elizabeth KENNEDAY > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VL-VVQ Elizabeth RANDLEY > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-V5L Elizabeth PODD > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7JF-TP3 Elizabeth HILL > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7JJ-F2H Elizabeth HODDARD > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-8KH Elizabeth HILL > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7DC-F7H Elizabeth BOYES > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7V4-3BF Elizabeth BRADDOCK > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M717-RMN Elizabeth HARVEY > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7X9-LMH Elizabeth ACTON > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7C8-85K Elizabeth WRIGHT > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7C2-J9N Elizabeth WORD > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M71B-S8R Elizabeth BUCH > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7DP-QRY Elizabeth COCK > > And my ancestor may or may not be one of them. Her older brother was born > in Onecote (Staffordshire), her next younger sister was also born in > Onecote. I could not find any births for an Elizabeth in Onecote doing my > search for her later on, so now I'll have to verify if she really was born > in Onecote. Oh the fun; but I do enjoy looking for them. It's just > discouraging not finding anything helpful yet. Anyway, thanks again for > the encouragement. I'm going to see what contact information my dad has > for his relatives on that side. > > Michael Wright > 801-773-7680 (H) > 801-390-0960 (C) > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:03:15 +1000 > > From: dmlfamilyhistory@gmail.com > > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Finding Descendants > > > > Michael, Only by doing the research yourself, one person after another, > > will you unexpectedly find gems of information that you would otherwise > > miss, these leading to wonderful stories and to other branches of your > > family. If you are only doing this to gather names and dates you will > miss > > out on so much. It has to become a labour of love, which in turn becomes > > an absorbing hobby. Maybe like many of us, you won't be able to do very > > much until your own children are grown up and you have retired, but in > the > > meantime, just do a little as and when you can, and I am sure it will be > > well worth your while in the long run. I have now got about 4500 in my > > tree, and have made some wonderful discoveries that I would never have > > dreamt possible 20 years ago, and I have found many previously unknown > > relations with whom I now communicate. They in turn can often give you > > information which will help in your search....not only information, but > > photographs too. Only today I received a photograph of myself and my > > family taken 56 years ago that I had never seen before. I would never > have > > even known about it's existence but for my family history hobby. Happy > > hunting, Diana > > > > On 1 March 2012 15:08, Michael Wright <rahmuss@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Peter, > > > They were both alive for the 1841 census; but Sarah died before the > 1851 > > > census. I have names of their children, and some of the spouses of the > > > children. I don't mind doing the work; but they had a lot of kids, if > on > > > average each child had 4 kids, and each of those had 4 kids...etc... > down > > > to me then there would be tens of thousands of names to find. > Obviously I > > > know most of my close cousins and aunts and uncles and grandparents; > but > > > not much more than that. Looking up thousands of names individually is > a > > > daunting task, and as I have five young children of my own I don't have > > > much time. I was hoping there might be some tool out there which might > > > assist in things like this; but it doesn't sound like it. I'll see > what I > > > can find. > > > > > > Michael Wright > > > 801-773-7680 (H) > > > 801-390-0960 (C) > > > > > > > > > > From: pbo08596@bigpond.net.au > > > > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:31:38 +1100 > > > > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Finding Descendants > > > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > > > You've got to do the research. There's eight or more generations > between > > > > 1793 and people living today. > > > > > > > > I presume George Moss and Sarah are still alive in 1841 census. That > > > > might be the place to start. > > > > > > > > If they stayed in England, BDM records are available from 1837-1937 > on > > > > FreeBMD and right up to about 2007 via Ancestry. But it's a case of > > > pulling > > > > them all together. Once you have the basic names, dates and > locations you > > > > can look at supplementary data from other sources. > > > > > > > > Of course the other way is to look if anybody has submitted family > trees > > > > at places like Rootsweb or Ancestry. But I think you'd at least need > > > George > > > > & Sarah's marriage and children. > > > > > > > > And you must have some data. You don't just pick people from 1790's > > > > without having a link. > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > ****************************** > > > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do > not > > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of > ARCHIVED > > > MATERIALS. > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ****************************** > > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of > ARCHIVED > > > MATERIALS. > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robyn Freney-Shaw Manager/Co-Ordinator Spiritus Soup Kitchen Toowoomba.

Robyn, Thanks. It does take a lot of work. I enjoy doing it, I love solving problems, it just gets old after so many years of being unsuccessful at it; but I keep moving along, and I'm confident that I'll find the information I've been looking for this year. Michael Wright 801-773-7680 (H) 801-390-0960 (C) > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:17:09 -0800 > From: shawforsure@gmail.com > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Finding Descendants > > Hi Michael, we ALL know that feeling of trawling through many records > trying to find someone, and we end up finding that their birth was not > registered or their mum died and the neighbour took them in.....in one mad > moment, trying to find my Spiers in Scotland, I printed all of them out and > went through them one by one...pages and pages it took...days and days it > took....eventually found them and not where I was told either. Do not give > up. many more records are coming on line and sometimes you just have to > wait a bit for a new census or parish records to be available. All the > best. Robyn Shaw, Qld, Australia > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Michael Wright <rahmuss@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Diana, > > Thanks for giving me some hope. Last night was fairly depressing. I > > spent about three hours trying to look for one of my ancestors' husband > > with no luck. George MOSS and Sarah had a daughter named Elizabeth, and we > > know nothing of who she married, or if she died. We only know that she > > shows up in the 1841 census and then disappears. Haven't found any deaths > > that I could see. She could have crossed the country and married someone. > > I searched through 3,338 records last night and collected 38 individuals > > (birth place wasn't exact; but close enough to not discount), Elizabeth > > ___surname___, some of them are likely repeats, leaving about 30 left. > > > > -- Leek -- > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74P-TFD Elizabeth STOKER > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ6R-8CG Elizabeth STOKES > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9KQ-HRS Elizabeth STOKES > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KM-JY7 Elizabeth MASON > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-NVV Elizabeth MASON > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3T2-MJ3 Elizabeth FLINT > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XS7X-LFG Elizabeth FLINT > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KM-KRS Elizabeth TIPPER > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XSXQ-GBK Elizabeth GEORGE > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7V3-TL3 Elizabeth HULSON > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VZ-YM7 Elizabeth HILTON > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMZJ-CRJ Elizabeth ADAMS > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3BP-GSW Elizabeth ABBOTT > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VZ-BT9 Elizabeth ABBOTT > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3VG-NKK Elizabeth TITLEY > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KM-GG6 Elizabeth TRAFFORD > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-N1Y Elizabeth MAGNIAC > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-D14 Elizabeth HODRIEN > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3V6-JDX Elizabeth PIDGEON > > > > -- ...Staffordshire -- > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7T8-BJ1 Elizabeth LEWIS > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M749-P68 Elizabeth ALLEN > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M749-ZHQ Elizabeth ALLEN > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VY-K68 Elizabeth BISSELL > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7D9-4ZL Elizabeth FRANCIS > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7JQ-F99 Elizabeth KENNEDAY > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7VL-VVQ Elizabeth RANDLEY > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-V5L Elizabeth PODD > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7JF-TP3 Elizabeth HILL > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7JJ-F2H Elizabeth HODDARD > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M74K-8KH Elizabeth HILL > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7DC-F7H Elizabeth BOYES > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7V4-3BF Elizabeth BRADDOCK > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M717-RMN Elizabeth HARVEY > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7X9-LMH Elizabeth ACTON > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7C8-85K Elizabeth WRIGHT > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7C2-J9N Elizabeth WORD > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M71B-S8R Elizabeth BUCH > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M7DP-QRY Elizabeth COCK > > > > And my ancestor may or may not be one of them. Her older brother was born > > in Onecote (Staffordshire), her next younger sister was also born in > > Onecote. I could not find any births for an Elizabeth in Onecote doing my > > search for her later on, so now I'll have to verify if she really was born > > in Onecote. Oh the fun; but I do enjoy looking for them. It's just > > discouraging not finding anything helpful yet. Anyway, thanks again for > > the encouragement. I'm going to see what contact information my dad has > > for his relatives on that side. > > > > Michael Wright > > 801-773-7680 (H) > > 801-390-0960 (C) > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:03:15 +1000 > > > From: dmlfamilyhistory@gmail.com > > > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Finding Descendants > > > > > > Michael, Only by doing the research yourself, one person after another, > > > will you unexpectedly find gems of information that you would otherwise > > > miss, these leading to wonderful stories and to other branches of your > > > family. If you are only doing this to gather names and dates you will > > miss > > > out on so much. It has to become a labour of love, which in turn becomes > > > an absorbing hobby. Maybe like many of us, you won't be able to do very > > > much until your own children are grown up and you have retired, but in > > the > > > meantime, just do a little as and when you can, and I am sure it will be > > > well worth your while in the long run. I have now got about 4500 in my > > > tree, and have made some wonderful discoveries that I would never have > > > dreamt possible 20 years ago, and I have found many previously unknown > > > relations with whom I now communicate. They in turn can often give you > > > information which will help in your search....not only information, but > > > photographs too. Only today I received a photograph of myself and my > > > family taken 56 years ago that I had never seen before. I would never > > have > > > even known about it's existence but for my family history hobby. Happy > > > hunting, Diana > > > > > > On 1 March 2012 15:08, Michael Wright <rahmuss@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Peter, > > > > They were both alive for the 1841 census; but Sarah died before the > > 1851 > > > > census. I have names of their children, and some of the spouses of the > > > > children. I don't mind doing the work; but they had a lot of kids, if > > on > > > > average each child had 4 kids, and each of those had 4 kids...etc... > > down > > > > to me then there would be tens of thousands of names to find. > > Obviously I > > > > know most of my close cousins and aunts and uncles and grandparents; > > but > > > > not much more than that. Looking up thousands of names individually is > > a > > > > daunting task, and as I have five young children of my own I don't have > > > > much time. I was hoping there might be some tool out there which might > > > > assist in things like this; but it doesn't sound like it. I'll see > > what I > > > > can find. > > > > > > > > Michael Wright > > > > 801-773-7680 (H) > > > > 801-390-0960 (C) > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: pbo08596@bigpond.net.au > > > > > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:31:38 +1100 > > > > > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Finding Descendants > > > > > > > > > > Michael, > > > > > > > > > > You've got to do the research. There's eight or more generations > > between > > > > > 1793 and people living today. > > > > > > > > > > I presume George Moss and Sarah are still alive in 1841 census. That > > > > > might be the place to start. > > > > > > > > > > If they stayed in England, BDM records are available from 1837-1937 > > on > > > > > FreeBMD and right up to about 2007 via Ancestry. But it's a case of > > > > pulling > > > > > them all together. Once you have the basic names, dates and > > locations you > > > > > can look at supplementary data from other sources. > > > > > > > > > > Of course the other way is to look if anybody has submitted family > > trees > > > > > at places like Rootsweb or Ancestry. But I think you'd at least need > > > > George > > > > > & Sarah's marriage and children. > > > > > > > > > > And you must have some data. You don't just pick people from 1790's > > > > > without having a link. > > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > ****************************** > > > > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do > > not > > > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of > > ARCHIVED > > > > MATERIALS. > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ****************************** > > > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of > > ARCHIVED > > > > MATERIALS. > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ****************************** > > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > > MATERIALS. > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > > MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Robyn Freney-Shaw > Manager/Co-Ordinator > Spiritus Soup Kitchen > Toowoomba. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message