Hi Does anyone have access to Roman Catholic Baptism records for Rugeley please I am looking for baptism for Ellen HANNAN in around 1850/53 - sorry to be unclear, records seem to vary somewhat! her father was William HANNAN. I cannot find a birth record for this lady, but recrods I can find all say she was born in Rugeley (or Bugley!) The Hannan family were from Ireland, and William was a navvy apparently TIA Liz Parkinson

Are they on the 1851 Census in Rugeley Liz? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2 -----Original Message----- From: Liz Parkinson <nosnikrapzil@googlemail.com> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 18:09:41 To: <STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Rugeley RC Baptism Hi Does anyone have access to Roman Catholic Baptism records for Rugeley please I am looking for baptism for Ellen HANNAN in around 1850/53 - sorry to be unclear, records seem to vary somewhat! her father was William HANNAN. I cannot find a birth record for this lady, but recrods I can find all say she was born in Rugeley (or Bugley!) The Hannan family were from Ireland, and William was a navvy apparently TIA Liz Parkinson ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Liz, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" <nosnikrapzil@googlemail.com> To: <STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:09 PM Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Rugeley RC Baptism > Hi > > Does anyone have access to Roman Catholic Baptism records for Rugeley > please I think your best chance might be here: http://www.birminghamarchdiocesanarchives.org.uk/contact.asp Regards Peter

Liz, Our local history society had a tour of St Joseph and Etheldreda R.C. church, Rugeley last year. If my memory serves me aright, I think I recollect the parish priest saying he (and his pre-decesors) had retained the church registers in his safe. The situation may have changed since but you could check with him or look if they are listed on-line in the holdings of the county record office at Stafford. John On 16 Mar 2013, at 18:09, Liz Parkinson <nosnikrapzil@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have access to Roman Catholic Baptism records for Rugeley please > > I am looking for baptism for Ellen HANNAN in around 1850/53 - sorry to be > unclear, records seem to vary somewhat! > > her father was William HANNAN. > > I cannot find a birth record for this lady, but recrods I can find all say > she was born in Rugeley (or Bugley!) > > The Hannan family were from Ireland, and William was a navvy apparently > > TIA > > Liz Parkinson > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz Could this be your Ellen, found on Family search. - parents: Gulielmi Hannon, Catharina Macdonald Hannon - name Helena Hannon - gender Female - christening date 30 Jul 1850 - christening place Joseph and Etheldreda, Rugeley, Stafford, England - father's name Gulielmi Hannon - mother's name Catharina Macdonald Hannon - - indexing project (batch) numbe rI04384-0 - system origin England-EASy - gs film number1999441 - reference idItem 4 Frank On 16 March 2013 18:09, Liz Parkinson <nosnikrapzil@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have access to Roman Catholic Baptism records for Rugeley > please > > I am looking for baptism for Ellen HANNAN in around 1850/53 - sorry to be > unclear, records seem to vary somewhat! > > her father was William HANNAN. > > I cannot find a birth record for this lady, but recrods I can find all say > she was born in Rugeley (or Bugley!) > > The Hannan family were from Ireland, and William was a navvy apparently > > TIA > > Liz Parkinson > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE > of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the > link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I struggle to understand why post 1837 people would look for baptisms rather than civil birth registrations. For me the simple rule is pre 1837 church records on FamilySearch post 1837 civil registrations on FreeBMD The LDS were unlikely to be given Catholic records and a lot of the time they ceased filming at 1837. And you shouldn't need to go purchasing certificates in most cases For the case in question, I would be happy to find them in 1861 census and accept the parents. I'd then go back and see if there is BDM data to confirm census records, but I wouldn't stress over it. I'd also try a look at later censuses or find births of siblings to get some confirmation. The problem could be anything from a missed entry, to a surname variant like Hanna or Hannah, or a recollection of birthplace. I know in Sydney for example, a lot of women came form the suburbs to large city maternity hospital. All those births have city registrations not where they lived. As children we mostly remember where we were raised, not where we were born. Peter in Sydney