Leslie, Right now I have no idea where in Ireland Thomas was born.  I just received his information yesterday.  Hopefully I'll be able to figure out something, but already I am seeing a fly in the ointment that another cousin sent to me about Thomas' line, but that has to do with finding a possible second wife (or first of 2 - dunno yet).  Yes, we are making progress, even if it is a wee bit slow - I've been at this since 1979.  I do know that at least one of his descendants has had his Y-DNA tested, and they are part of the Johnstons of Sir Adam Group.  One of these has his Johnston in Co. Fermanagh, Co. Leitrim and then lost track of him in Co. Cavan before he then went to Australia.  His Y-DNA is a very close match to mine indicating a possible Most Recent Common Ancestor possibly in the mid-1700s.  We got onto this Thomas via another descendant in the U.S. by the looks of it - I still need to sort all of this out :-0  On top of this one of the Australian cousins has a sister of his gggrandfather, and she went to Rawdon rather than to Australia with her siblings.  We are getting very close to pulling this group together by the looks of it. In addition, we have contacted a documented member of the Poldean line in France and another in Germany.  What makes this helpful is that the French Johnston's ancestors went from Scotland to Ireland first and then on to France.  I need to get this family's information on their Ireland kin together and post it too.  The noted Irish architect Francis Johnston came from this line. My gggrandfather, Robert "Red Robin" Johnston was born in Kilrea, Londonderry Co., Ireland, 1808.  His brother, Francis, was born in England in 1805, but I don't know where.  Many of our Johnston kin in Ireland left with the 2 Methodist emmigrations to Upper Canada in 1822 and 1832. If you have a male Johnston alive today I would strongly urge you to have him get his Y-DNA tested by FTDNA, ASAP.  The 67-markers test is the one to get although the more expensive 111-markers test is coming into its own now as more people buy this upgrade.  Several of us have tested for 111 markers, but the 67 will give us a great start.  We have been able to make some valuable connections with this tool with well over 50 of us connected via it.  We have a group here on Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JohnstonsOfSirAdam/ I hasten to add that as we have family information posted here that one must provide proof of a connection to this famly.  We do this so that we have certain degree of privacy.  What works for us is a Y-DNA test showing kinship, a known kinship to a current member, or a paper trail going back to the Johnstons of Poldean or a son of Sir Adam Johnston. Yes, the male line of Clan Johnston/e did not die out - the current chief's father just used that as an argument to get the titles for his family on the distaff side - the Hope family.  It worked ;-) Good hunting, Cliff. ________________________________ From: Leslie Prpich <beyond@islandnet.com> To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, January 24, 2013 7:22:55 PM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] JOHNSTON, Thomas Hi Clifford, Do you know where in Ireland Thomas came from? My ancestor Charles JOHNS(T)ON was born circa 1793 in Ireland and emigrated to Staffordshire. He married Ann MOUNTFORD at Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire in 1835. One census has him from county Cavan and another from Leitrim. I have nothing else to go on, and I've hoped for years that he emigrated with a relative and I'd be able to trace him that way. Ever hopeful, Leslie in Canada On 2013-01-24, at 11:54 AM, Cliff. Johnston wrote: > Seeking information on: > > Thomas JOHNSTON, b. 1801, IRELAND, > m. 1829, Staffordshire, ENGLAND, Sarah SHAW. > > Children: > 1. Elizabeth, b. 1828, ENGLAND, d. 1846, Rawdon, Que., > 2. James, b. 1831, ENGLAND, d. 1846, Rawdon, Que., > 3. Thomas, b. 1833, ENGLAND, > 4. Ann, b. 1839, ENGLAND, > 5. Rebecca, b. 1841, ENGLAND, > 6. Sarah, b. 1846, Rawdon, Que., and > 7. Jane, b. 1848, Rawdon, Que. > > > Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Clifford Johnston > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to >your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of >messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. 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