At 04:27 PM 3/9/2012, you wrote: >Any recommendations for sites other than Ancestry.com?? Family Search - https://familysearch.org/ National Archives - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ Staffordshire BMD - http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/ FreeBMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ Google Books - http://books.google.com/ Genes Reunited - www.genesreunited.co.uk

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Thanks Christine The Bersham records come under the Wrexham ones and I have been all through them without finding him I don't have Ancestry so not sure how I could contact The Sharp family - any advice would be very welcome Best wishes Pauline -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christine Benson Sent: 07 March 2012 23:02 To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brin(d)ley Hi Pauline, The 1881 census says he was born Wrexham. Also there are several trees on Ancestry which say Wrexham but other places are mentioned as well. One tree owner cites the Sharp Family Tree as his/her source. Hope this helps. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Pauline Sieler Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:37 PM To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brin(d)ley I don't know if anyone can help but I have an ancestor John Brin(d)ley who was b 1812 - 1815 according to which census you read. In several censuses it says that he came from Bersham in N.Wales but having extensively searched the parish records there he doesn't appear. However, in one census it says that he came from 'Staffs' There are several John Brin(d)ley's coming from Staffordshire at this time He was married in Buckinghamshire in 1838 to Mary Butler and had children in Shropshire, Deddington and Wells I would love to hear from anyone who is researching this family Kind regards Pauline ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pauline, The 1881 census says he was born Wrexham. Also there are several trees on Ancestry which say Wrexham but other places are mentioned as well. One tree owner cites the Sharp Family Tree as his/her source. Hope this helps. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Pauline Sieler Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:37 PM To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brin(d)ley I don't know if anyone can help but I have an ancestor John Brin(d)ley who was b 1812 - 1815 according to which census you read. In several censuses it says that he came from Bersham in N.Wales but having extensively searched the parish records there he doesn't appear. However, in one census it says that he came from 'Staffs' There are several John Brin(d)ley's coming from Staffordshire at this time He was married in Buckinghamshire in 1838 to Mary Butler and had children in Shropshire, Deddington and Wells I would love to hear from anyone who is researching this family Kind regards Pauline ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if anyone can help but I have an ancestor John Brin(d)ley who was b 1812 - 1815 according to which census you read. In several censuses it says that he came from Bersham in N.Wales but having extensively searched the parish records there he doesn't appear. However, in one census it says that he came from 'Staffs' There are several John Brin(d)ley's coming from Staffordshire at this time He was married in Buckinghamshire in 1838 to Mary Butler and had children in Shropshire, Deddington and Wells I would love to hear from anyone who is researching this family Kind regards Pauline

Indeed. But if that child was bringing in the only money to the family, then - maybe she would have had to think again... Dawn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn L. Arnold Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 4:08 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1881 -- The Iron Works, Moxley/Wednesfield How horrifying! Smart mother! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd" <sgholt@cox.net> To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1881 -- The Iron Works, Moxley/Wednesfield > My father was born in Hanley. When he was a little kid they got him a job > in > the mines and because he was so small in stature he was given the job of > clearing the air shafts of dead animals. He had to crawl thru the shaft > pushing > a big metal box in front of him just about the size of the tunnel. He > could > hear > the live rats runnung in front of the box. He did that for 3 days and at > night he would wake up > screaming at the rats. His mother said not her son and made him quit. Just > the thought of doing thaqt gives me the creeps. > Syd in Arizona > > > > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1881 -- The Iron Works, Moxley/Wednesfield > > >> Really .... I had no idea! Wow. That's fascinating. I do recall >> stories >> being passed down about working in the dark, damp coal mines with water >> dripping down. It sounded wretched. I'm just not sure who exactly were >> the >> coal miners, since they didn't appear as such in the census records, but >> think my GG GF was at one time, as a young man. No wonder he wanted to >> come >> to "America" and become a minister -- a far easier life! >> >> You are saying 17th and 18th centuries -- ie 1600s, 1700s. So coal was >> discovered there as early as the 1600s? >> Marilyn > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6944 (20120306) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6944 (20120306) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

How horrifying! Smart mother! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syd" <sgholt@cox.net> To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1881 -- The Iron Works, Moxley/Wednesfield > My father was born in Hanley. When he was a little kid they got him a job > in > the mines and because he was so small in stature he was given the job of > clearing the air shafts of dead animals. He had to crawl thru the shaft > pushing > a big metal box in front of him just about the size of the tunnel. He > could > hear > the live rats runnung in front of the box. He did that for 3 days and at > night he would wake up > screaming at the rats. His mother said not her son and made him quit. Just > the thought of doing thaqt gives me the creeps. > Syd in Arizona > > > > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1881 -- The Iron Works, Moxley/Wednesfield > > >> Really .... I had no idea! Wow. That's fascinating. I do recall >> stories >> being passed down about working in the dark, damp coal mines with water >> dripping down. It sounded wretched. I'm just not sure who exactly were >> the >> coal miners, since they didn't appear as such in the census records, but >> think my GG GF was at one time, as a young man. No wonder he wanted to >> come >> to "America" and become a minister -- a far easier life! >> >> You are saying 17th and 18th centuries -- ie 1600s, 1700s. So coal was >> discovered there as early as the 1600s? >> Marilyn > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The method of hanging manure in a bag in a bucket of water, and then using the liquid usually diluted, works well for other things too. Eg, weeds! Good fertilizer can be obtained from them. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Thompson Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:42 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] LIFE in the 1870-1900s Hi . Bananas are full of Potassium which is the growth element for plant structure and fruit . Laurie -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012 10:23 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] LIFE in the 1870-1900s >> OK. I'm in the US. This is all new information. Rosefertilizer, I >> get >> (bananas work well) for roses. But .... please elaborate via: >> THANK YOU. In 1950 we did see bananas, horse manure is a good fertilizer, went on the compost heap with all the kitchen food waste, and garden clippings. From memory you could not use it as it arrived, you had to leave it to mature. Farther - in - law used to put a bag of horse manure in a bag, and hang it in a water butt, this water was then used to water the tomato plants, feeding them at the same time. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6940 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6940 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

My father was born in Hanley. When he was a little kid they got him a job in the mines and because he was so small in stature he was given the job of clearing the air shafts of dead animals. He had to crawl thru the shaft pushing a big metal box in front of him just about the size of the tunnel. He could hear the live rats runnung in front of the box. He did that for 3 days and at night he would wake up screaming at the rats. His mother said not her son and made him quit. Just the thought of doing thaqt gives me the creeps. Syd in Arizona Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1881 -- The Iron Works, Moxley/Wednesfield > Really .... I had no idea! Wow. That's fascinating. I do recall stories > being passed down about working in the dark, damp coal mines with water > dripping down. It sounded wretched. I'm just not sure who exactly were > the > coal miners, since they didn't appear as such in the census records, but > think my GG GF was at one time, as a young man. No wonder he wanted to > come > to "America" and become a minister -- a far easier life! > > You are saying 17th and 18th centuries -- ie 1600s, 1700s. So coal was > discovered there as early as the 1600s? > Marilyn

Hi . Bananas are full of Potassium which is the growth element for plant structure and fruit . Laurie -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012 10:23 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] LIFE in the 1870-1900s >> OK. I'm in the US. This is all new information. Rosefertilizer, I >> get >> (bananas work well) for roses. But .... please elaborate via: >> THANK YOU. In 1950 we did see bananas, horse manure is a good fertilizer, went on the compost heap with all the kitchen food waste, and garden clippings. From memory you could not use it as it arrived, you had to leave it to mature. Farther - in - law used to put a bag of horse manure in a bag, and hang it in a water butt, this water was then used to water the tomato plants, feeding them at the same time.

Grate blacker - I suspect it is called stove black here. When you can find it, that is. Like hens teeth these days. Sort of like bootpolish texture - the stuff you brush on not the liquid self shining apply with a sponge applicator on the top of the bottle sort - brush it on, lots of elbow grease, and the stove comes up well. They used to do it every week or so.. I have done it once - partly due to the lack of stove black! Filthy stuff it is, women ware black aprons to do it so the inevitable mess on clothes did not show. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn L. Arnold Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012 9:28 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] LIFE in the 1870-1900s OK. I'm in the US. This is all new information. Rosefertilizer, I get (bananas work well) for roses. But .... please elaborate via: THANK YOU. > I was also in charge of woodlice killing in greenhouse, half potato in > upturned flower pot plus hammer, plus green fly killer via the used > washing > up water and hand pump, path layer via cinders from the fire, and grate > blacker. > > Brian ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6938 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6938 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

I tried a cinder drive in this place. It solved the problem of what to do with the ashes for sure. The nails in the firewood I had - free, scrounged firewood - were not ideal, and I used to have to get them out by hand. Yes, a magnet may have been a good idea, but.. the drive is now concreted and lot less mess and fuss it is! My grandparents used ash to make a drive and paths... I do remember that. But apart from that memory I have, no-one else here has heard of it - and now, this post! Thank you Brian. Dawn Woodlice are slaters in this neck of the woods. Little armour plated things, hard to tell front from back, many legs. The chooks - chickens if you are not NZ or Aussie - love the firewood and other things about my yard - lots of insects including slaters. Yum! And now, we buy the stuff you used to scoop up for free. -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012 7:27 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] LIFE in the 1870-1900s > My father always 'cleaned' up after the rag and bone man had disappeared > said it was good for his roses ! That was always the son's job in my time as a young lad, we all had a bucket and shovel, and it was your job to be the first son to the rose fertilizer, delivered via coalman, breadman, milkman, rag and boneman, or any other horse. I was also in charge of woodlice killing in greenhouse, half potato in upturned flower pot plus hammer, plus green fly killer via the used washing up water and hand pump, path layer via cinders from the fire, and grate blacker. Brian ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6938 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6938 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Then I must get them when I next visit! Sovereign Hill (Ballarat, Victoria - gold country)- same sort of thing as the Black Country Living Museum - used to sell them. I got two. Now they only sell it in cubes, paper wrapped - not at all what I remember. What happened to the two I got and saved carefully? Husband thought he would help me when packing for the move - took the fabric wrappers off, and three them away - presented me with a fast vanishing blue lump - it was a few days later, too, he was so proud of himself, too. Rag and bone man has long since gone, too. We only had one or two that I remember - and the rabbitohs. Rabbits were cleaned and skinned, very cheap per pair. You never got just one from the rabbitoh. He had most likely killed them himself. These days, I cannot afford rabbit - it is a gourmet farmed meat! Wild bunnies abound and cause no end of damage to crops, soil, whatever. Thanks to the nice Englishman who felt like a spot of hunting in about 1860 and released about six pair. Never saw gas lighting in streets, it had long gone by 1947 when I came along. Houses - all electric I think - but.. remember, a house is VERY old here if it is say older than 100 years - very early ones, a handful, might be from the 1840s. Mine is old and it was built mid 1960s! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alan Sent: Monday, 5 March 2012 11:04 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] LIFE in the 1870-1900s Dawn wrote "Then - the whites went into a rinse with blue added - blue bags used to colour the water - I remember them but my American husband had no idea - and then, dripping almost, out onto the line." Dolly blue bags - we used to get them from the rag and bone man. Another fixture of my childhood that has long disappeared! You can still buy dolly blue here in the UK if you know where to look. Angela ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.927 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4249 - Release Date: 03/03/12 19:34:00 ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6938 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6938 (20120305) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Yes Ruth this is her, thank you so much Elizabeth in Ont Canada

I guess it's where you come from as to what was still around when. My parents were re-housed from a dilapidated terraced house to a new council house estate in the early fifties. I was lucky enough to came into a world with electricity, mains water (hot if you lit a fire for the back-boiler), a radio (TV a lot later), indoor sanitation - toilet and bath, a gas boiler in the kitchen for the washing (replaced the old copper but we still had a wooden "posher" to agitate the clothes) and own garden.   This contrasted sharply with my aunt's house: about 10 or 12 foot wide; 2 rooms up, 2 down; no indoor plumbing - water, cold only, came from the sink tap in the brewhouse in the "party yard" (an area shared between 4 houses); the toilet was "up the yard"  - luckily mains drainage and also they didn't have to share with another house as some of the neighbours did; chamber pots under the bed; clothes washing, as described by others, using the copper in the brewhouse. Cooking was on a small gas stove installed sometime in the 1950's when the old "black lead," cast iron grate with integrated hob and small side oven was replaced with a modern fireplace. They had the electric put in mid to late 60's, until then it was gas lighting. Their street (School Street, Kingshill, Wednesbury) had gas lighting until around 1960.  The house (rented) had been the family home since the late 1800's and had housed my mother, her 4 sisters, 2 brothers and parents. It was demolished in the early 1970's and the family ( by then 2 maiden aunts and bachelor uncle) were rehoused into a council house. Mike Bryan Researching BRYAN, Wednesbury, Tipton; FORD Wednesbury, Darlaston

Who remembers the Donkey Stone some rag and bone men had My father always 'cleaned' up after the rag and bone man had disappeared said it was good for his roses ! Jen (NSW) On 5/03/2012 11:39 AM, brian wrote: > Wasn't the rag and bone man the best recycling system known to man ? > Brian > ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please > remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the > SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>> OK. I'm in the US. This is all new information. Rosefertilizer, I >> get >> (bananas work well) for roses. But .... please elaborate via: THANK >> YOU. In 1950 we did see bananas, horse manure is a good fertilizer, went on the compost heap with all the kitchen food waste, and garden clippings. From memory you could not use it as it arrived, you had to leave it to mature. Farther - in - law used to put a bag of horse manure in a bag, and hang it in a water butt, this water was then used to water the tomato plants, feeding them at the same time. Good stuff horse manure, you should be okay in the US with all the cowboys you have :-) Brian

Via=thru or using in this context AndyA Sent from my iPod On 5 Mar 2012, at 10:28 AM, "Marilyn L. Arnold" <marilyn.arnold1@verizon.net> wrote: > OK. I'm in the US. This is all new information. Rosefertilizer, I get > (bananas work well) for roses. But .... please elaborate via: THANK YOU. > >> I was also in charge of woodlice killing in greenhouse, half potato in >> upturned flower pot plus hammer, plus green fly killer via the used >> washing >> up water and hand pump, path layer via cinders from the fire, and grate >> blacker. >> >> Brian > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sure was Brian, but today it would be considered unhygenic and/or politically incorrect because the powers that be no longer allow us to think for ourselves! Diana On 5 March 2012 10:39, brian <brian@kddpowercentre.com> wrote: > > Dolly blue bags - we used to get them from the rag and bone man. Another > > fixture of my childhood that has long disappeared! > > Wasn't the rag and bone man the best recycling system known to man ? > > Brian > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >