This is a general question, and may be a bit much to handle by one person. Just wondering what sources we have to gather information from, and what the best way to find those sources is. I already know about some sources; but I'm not sure where I can get info on them. Birth Certificates: Parish records (though I guess I don't always know where they can be searched) Marriage Certificates: Parish records again Death Certificates: Parish records (who would have records of obituaries? And when did they start keeping them?) Census records: Many genealogical sites can search these (FamilySearch.org, Ancestry.com, FindMyPast.com) Wills: Not sure where to find these really. What other sources are out there? And where can I search or find them? Thanks. Michael Wright 801-773-7680 (H) 801-390-0960 (C) rahmuss@hotmail.com

Would the IGI have it listed? Just a thought, regards, Michael -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Stutcinskas" <steve.stutcinskas@sky.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:31 AM To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Thorley / Timmus marriage > On 27/03/12 09:18, Joy Brealey wrote: >> Hello >> I am trying to get details of the marriage of Charles Harry Thorley to >> Elizabeth Ann Timmis and at which church it took place. It was on 20 May >> 1878 at Bucknall cum Bagnall. Was it at Bucknall church OR Bagnall >> church? The GRO Index just gives it as Stoke T. 6b 184. >> Can anyone help? >> Regards >> Graham Brealey >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Graham - you should visit www.staffordshireBMD.org.uk where you will > find the marriage listed as :- > > TIMMIS Elizabeth A THORLEY Charles H Bucknall, St Mary > Stoke-On-Trent 2/04/104. > <http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/certapp.php?type=marriages&data=TIMMIS%7cElizabeth%20A%7cTHORLEY%7cCharles%20H%7cBucknall%2c%20St%20Mary%7cStoke%2dOn%2dTrent%7c1878%7c1878%7c%7cSO%3a2%2f04%2f104%2e%7cT%7c9717%7cstaffordshire%7cSO&lang=> > > > > www.staffordshireBMD.org.uk should be the first point of call for all > North Staffs marriages between July 1837 and 1984 as they have been > transcribed from the original registers. > Staffs BMD gives more details than the GRO in that it names the church > and also gives the register and page number. > > Regards > > Steve Stutcinskas > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 27/03/12 09:18, Joy Brealey wrote: > Hello > I am trying to get details of the marriage of Charles Harry Thorley to > Elizabeth Ann Timmis and at which church it took place. It was on 20 May > 1878 at Bucknall cum Bagnall. Was it at Bucknall church OR Bagnall > church? The GRO Index just gives it as Stoke T. 6b 184. > Can anyone help? > Regards > Graham Brealey > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Graham - you should visit www.staffordshireBMD.org.uk where you will find the marriage listed as :- TIMMIS Elizabeth A THORLEY Charles H Bucknall, St Mary Stoke-On-Trent 2/04/104. <http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/certapp.php?type=marriages&data=TIMMIS%7cElizabeth%20A%7cTHORLEY%7cCharles%20H%7cBucknall%2c%20St%20Mary%7cStoke%2dOn%2dTrent%7c1878%7c1878%7c%7cSO%3a2%2f04%2f104%2e%7cT%7c9717%7cstaffordshire%7cSO&lang=> www.staffordshireBMD.org.uk should be the first point of call for all North Staffs marriages between July 1837 and 1984 as they have been transcribed from the original registers. Staffs BMD gives more details than the GRO in that it names the church and also gives the register and page number. Regards Steve Stutcinskas

Hi Graham - take a look at:- www.familysearch.org some details are listed Regards - Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Brealey" <joy@brealey.org> To: <STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:18 AM Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Thorley / Timmus marriage > Hello > I am trying to get details of the marriage of Charles Harry Thorley to > Elizabeth Ann Timmis and at which church it took place. It was on 20 May > 1878 at Bucknall cum Bagnall. Was it at Bucknall church OR Bagnall > church? The GRO Index just gives it as Stoke T. 6b 184. > Can anyone help? > Regards > Graham Brealey > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

THORLEY Charles H TIMMIS Elizabeth A 1878 Bucknall, St Mary Stoke-On-Trent Staffordshire 2/04/104.

Hello I am trying to get details of the marriage of Charles Harry Thorley to Elizabeth Ann Timmis and at which church it took place. It was on 20 May 1878 at Bucknall cum Bagnall. Was it at Bucknall church OR Bagnall church? The GRO Index just gives it as Stoke T. 6b 184. Can anyone help? Regards Graham Brealey

Please can you help? In our family tree Mary Sneyd appears to have married ? Wood and later as 'friend' had 9 children from 1792 - 1807 by Samuel Stone in Bishopsgate / Finsbury London according to his will. All baptisms found. The family has gone by the information on the provenance of a painting by her son-in-law C R Leslie the N Z artist regarding a painting of her from information by a gt granddaughter.. Are Mary SNEYD & Mary WOOD the same person. Thanks Jo Mason

Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Births: Replaced 8,492 for Shelton, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1847-1860) to add mother's maiden name regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

Mary, thank you, yes this is the right family, unfortunately I was using Findmypast, which list them as Cardley, Fay -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Paterson Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:07 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census Fay... Here is the family in the 1891 census Name William Eardley Age 29 Estimated birth year.1862 Relation Head spouse Margaret Eardley Gender Male Where born Tunstall. Staffordshire England Civil Parish Wolstanton Eccles. Parish Christchurch Tunstall County Staffordshire Registration dist. Wolstanton Piece 2159 Folio25 page no. 2 Household William Eardley age 29 Margaret age 28 William E. age 1 Sarah Brereton 18 visitor. HTH Mary Sydney -----Original Message----- From: Fay Bielewicz Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:20 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census William was born in Tunstall, Staffs,1863, son of Benjamin and Jane (Pope) Eardley, He married Margaret Jenkinson Edge in 1886 Their son, William Edge Eardley, was born, in Tunstall, in 1889. Margaret died in 1895. I cannot find the family in the 1891 census. I can find William Edge in 1901, in Stone, as a visitor, and in 1911 as a boarder, but can find no further trace of William his father, none of the deaths recorded seem to fit the right age. Fay ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fay... Here is the family in the 1891 census Name William Eardley Age 29 Estimated birth year.1862 Relation Head spouse Margaret Eardley Gender Male Where born Tunstall. Staffordshire England Civil Parish Wolstanton Eccles. Parish Christchurch Tunstall County Staffordshire Registration dist. Wolstanton Piece 2159 Folio25 page no. 2 Household William Eardley age 29 Margaret age 28 William E. age 1 Sarah Brereton 18 visitor. HTH Mary Sydney -----Original Message----- From: Fay Bielewicz Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:20 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census William was born in Tunstall, Staffs,1863, son of Benjamin and Jane (Pope) Eardley, He married Margaret Jenkinson Edge in 1886 Their son, William Edge Eardley, was born, in Tunstall, in 1889. Margaret died in 1895. I cannot find the family in the 1891 census. I can find William Edge in 1901, in Stone, as a visitor, and in 1911 as a boarder, but can find no further trace of William his father, none of the deaths recorded seem to fit the right age. Fay ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just want to thank all those people who tried to help, it would seem that "my" William Eardley did not emigrate to the States, and I am left with my brick wall! William was born in Tunstall, Staffs,1863, son of Benjamin and Jane (Pope) Eardley, He married Margaret Jenkinson Edge in 1886 Their son, William Edge Eardley, was born, in Tunstall, in 1889. Margaret died in 1895. I cannot find the family in the 1891 census. I can find William Edge in 1901, in Stone, as a visitor, and in 1911 as a boarder, but can find no further trace of William his father, none of the deaths recorded seem to fit the right age. The good news is that William, the son, married and had four sons, which is good for further genealogy Once again, thanks to all Fay

One of my male ancestors of Staffordshire came first, then sent for wife and child; the wife and child sailed the North Atlantic by themselves. Later, in the age of steam, another male ancestor came alone and then sent for his wife and child. She responded, "If you care for us, you will come get us." ...And he did. Anne in Portsmouth, RI USA

I am with Ruth on that. My great grandfathers came to Canada and settled in and the family followed a year later. This happened with both my MANSELLs of Norton Canes and SHERRATTs of Norton in the Moors. Wendy Sherratt Hogan Ontario, Canada

This is a very good question posed by Lory .... I know that my grandfather came from England first and a year or so later his family joined him. I was a pattern with many emigrants that Dad came, got work and a place to live, and then Mum and the kids came when he was settled and could support them. Ruth In Canada Message 4 ...... SNIP ....... Do you think he brought his family over later or did he abandon them altogether. Lory Carson

Thank you to all you generous people. I am trying to trace a William Eardley, born 1863 in Tunstall, Staffordshire. I believe he went to America in 1892 on SS Santiago, leaving a wife and child in the UK, I am grateful for any help you can give me, Fay -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Valente Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 6:19 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census Hi Fay, greetings from Hingham, Massachusetts, USA. If you would like to send me his name, date of birth, or anything you have on him, I will begin to search census in 1900 (there is no 1890 census, it burned) I have access to them all. You might try www.familysearch.org they may have them also. I have ancestry and will search that. I cannot begin to search it until Friday as I am gone all day tomorrow. Hope we are successful. Barbara Sweeney Valente On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Fay Bielewicz <FayB@bordernet.com.au>wrote: > Is there anyone who can help here? Are any American censuses searchable > online? I think I have found a distant cousin arriving at Ellis Island in > 1892, can anyone recommend ways of tracing the rest of his life in America? > TIA > Fay, in a damp and drizzling Queensland > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fay This is some of what i have found on William Eardly b 1863 in England There are no exact matches that I can find but there are some that are close. by the way, did you notice that Wm Eardly that arrived on 3/19/1892 was an American and that the SS Santiago left from Cienfuegos, Nassau. Anyway, I found 3 possibilities based on age. In the 1900 census Santa Rosa California. 1. William Eardly b Feb 1863 in England. Arrived in the US in 1881. In 1900 he is living with his wife Jimelia and daughter Gladys age 7 This William is a real estate agent and owned his home. . I believe is full name is William J Eardly 2. In the 1900 census Chicago, Illinois. William Eardly. b. May 1867 in England. He arrived in the US in 1872. So he must have come with his parents In 1900 he is living with his wife Rilla and an Edgar Parker age 26. William is a general Merchant Clerk. 3. In the 1920 census, Multnomah, Oregon. William Eardly b. 1866 He arrived in the US in 1910. He is living with his wife Mary and son William (16). all of them are born in England This William Eardly also returned form England in July 1947 on the Queen Elizabeth. He was 83 years old. This states that he was naturalized American citizen in May 1922 in Portland, Oregon. I will keep looking and if any of these seem like yours let me know and I can maybe follow them through history. Do you think he brought his family over later or did he abandon them altogether. Lory Carson ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210

I found a Margt. Erdley, age 22, who arrived in 1893. ( http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?LNM=EARDLEY&PLNM=EARDLEY&SYR=1882&EYR=1902&bSYR=1853&bEYR=1873&last_kind=3&town_kind=0&ship_kind=0&kind=alt&offset=0&dwpdone=1 ) Michael Wright 801-773-7680 (H) 801-390-0960 (C) rahmuss@hotmail.com > From: FayB@bordernet.com.au > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:04:53 +1000 > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census > > Thank you to all you generous people. I am trying to trace a William > Eardley, born 1863 in Tunstall, Staffordshire. I believe he went to America > in 1892 on SS Santiago, leaving a wife and child in the UK, I am grateful > for any help you can give me, > Fay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Valente > Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 6:19 AM > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census > > Hi Fay, greetings from Hingham, Massachusetts, USA. If you would like to > send me his name, date of birth, or anything you have on him, I will begin > to search census > in 1900 (there is no 1890 census, it burned) I have access to them all. > You might try www.familysearch.org they may have them also. I have > ancestry and will search that. I cannot begin to search it until Friday as > I am gone all day tomorrow. Hope we are successful. Barbara Sweeney > Valente > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Fay Bielewicz <FayB@bordernet.com.au>wrote: > > > Is there anyone who can help here? Are any American censuses searchable > > online? I think I have found a distant cousin arriving at Ellis Island in > > 1892, can anyone recommend ways of tracing the rest of his life in > America? > > TIA > > Fay, in a damp and drizzling Queensland > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > > MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply > to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Apparently there is a site (ellisisland.org) which lets you search their records: http://www.ellisisland.org/default.asp?SID=2188&gclid=CI6O572v6a4CFSQZQgodUVBCXA Michael Wright 801-773-7680 (H) 801-390-0960 (C) rahmuss@hotmail.com > From: FayB@bordernet.com.au > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:04:53 +1000 > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census > > Thank you to all you generous people. I am trying to trace a William > Eardley, born 1863 in Tunstall, Staffordshire. I believe he went to America > in 1892 on SS Santiago, leaving a wife and child in the UK, I am grateful > for any help you can give me, > Fay > > > -----Original Message----- > From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Valente > Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 6:19 AM > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census > > Hi Fay, greetings from Hingham, Massachusetts, USA. If you would like to > send me his name, date of birth, or anything you have on him, I will begin > to search census > in 1900 (there is no 1890 census, it burned) I have access to them all. > You might try www.familysearch.org they may have them also. I have > ancestry and will search that. I cannot begin to search it until Friday as > I am gone all day tomorrow. Hope we are successful. Barbara Sweeney > Valente > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Fay Bielewicz <FayB@bordernet.com.au>wrote: > > > Is there anyone who can help here? Are any American censuses searchable > > online? I think I have found a distant cousin arriving at Ellis Island in > > 1892, can anyone recommend ways of tracing the rest of his life in > America? > > TIA > > Fay, in a damp and drizzling Queensland > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > > MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply > to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fay, If you'd like to try for yourself, have a look around local libraries and FHS centres. Quite a few offer free Ancestry Access. Peter

Ancestry springs to mind! But you have to pay... look at all sites, as the exchange rate at one stage far favoured the British version - saved about $50Aust that way on an annual subscription as compared to the US and Australian ancestry versions. Same info if you choose the country/version you want. Watch out for specials, too. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fay Bielewicz Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 7:10 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] American Census Is there anyone who can help here? Are any American censuses searchable online? I think I have found a distant cousin arriving at Ellis Island in 1892, can anyone recommend ways of tracing the rest of his life in America? TIA Fay, in a damp and drizzling Queensland ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6967 (20120314) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6967 (20120314) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com