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    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Michael Wright
    3. If you happen to come across a Thomas MOSS born around 1750 let me know. He is the father-in-law of Sarah whose maiden name I'm trying to find. I also don't know the parents of Thomas MOSS. Michael Wright 801-773-7680 (H) 801-390-0960 (C) rahmuss@hotmail.com > Looking through the Parish Register transcripts of Alstonefield , there do > not appear to be any MOSS baptisms or burials BUT there do appear to be a > multitude of MOSS marriages. Listed below are what could be the relevant > ones in your search for Abraham's parents: > > 11 November 1733 Isaac MOSS & Sarah SALT > 15 August 1741 Elias MOSS & Sarah MILNER > 7 May 1748 Abraham MOSS & Mary BRUNT > 9 July 1751 John MOSS & Eliz. LOMAS > 15 April 1755 Abraham MOSS & Mary GOODWIN in presence of > Micah BENITT & Joseph HUDFIELD > 24 August 1757 Jacob MOSS & Anne WARDLE of Hartington > 3 May 1758 Luke MOSS & Mary LOMAS in presence of John MOSS > > & Geo LOMAS > 13 September 1759 John MOSS & Kezia MOTTRAM in presence of Wm WOOD & > Ezekiel WOOD > 1 January 1765 Joseph MOSS & Eliz. BESWICK >

    04/12/2012 03:35:23
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-Conformist Registers
    2. Dawn Webb
    3. Some non-conformists did not "do" baptisms - not infant ones anyway. Look throughout their lives, not just for dates near births,. And, accept they ay not every have been baptized. Dawn (who grew up a Baptist, ie adult baptism only) (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of thalauafu Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2012 8:44 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-Conformist Registers I have a large number of relations including my father , grandparents and great grandparents whom I know to have been non-conformists. All were born in the Hanley/ Stoke/Newcastle area but I have not been able to find any of their baptisms. Can anyone please tell me if they are on-line anywhere, and maybe explain why they do not appear in the non-conformist records on Family Search? I would love to find these for my records. Thanking you Diana in Tropical Far North Queensland ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7046 (20120411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7046 (20120411) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

    04/12/2012 03:22:37
    1. [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-Conformist Registers
    2. thalauafu
    3. I have a large number of relations including my father , grandparents and great grandparents whom I know to have been non-conformists. All were born in the Hanley/ Stoke/Newcastle area but I have not been able to find any of their baptisms. Can anyone please tell me if they are on-line anywhere, and maybe explain why they do not appear in the non-conformist records on Family Search? I would love to find these for my records. Thanking you Diana in Tropical Far North Queensland

    04/12/2012 02:43:42
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-ConformistRegisters
    2. Lin Lamberg
    3. Most Non Conformist Parish Registers have been lost over time, that's why we all have trouble finding baptisms. Most of the time they do not exist. Linda.

    04/11/2012 10:27:32
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital
    2. Kevin Walker
    3. I might get a similar response, but key staff are on holiday. In any case, Listers today have been so helpful. -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ooooppss Sent: 11 April 2012 22:29 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital Kevin Walker wrote, Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:08:14 +1200 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist for > this parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and have no > answer to my requests. ... and herein lies a sad tale. Our History Centre has microFs, but their printer is broken, and obsolete, so if you want a print-out, they re-scan the original and print from that - at your (vast) expense. "No, we have no plans - no money - to transcribe anything." I offered to give a "museum" a stack of my family history stuff, scanned onto DVD. "Thanks for the offer - but we can only accept microFs" ! Well, funny old thing, I don't *have* any facility to produce such a thing. So I put it onto a WebSite instead... *I* reckon that all these unemployed people on the dole (for which I pay) should earn their dole by doing transcriptions.... ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 04:35:58
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital
    2. Frank Lockley
    3. Totally agree with this Rob, you need to have people who have a genuine interest to get decent transcribing done, or spend so much time checking the transcriptions that you may as well do it yourself to start with. Poor transcriptions are a waste of time and reflect so badly on any society/organisation that have published them Frank Lockley ----- Original Message ----- From: <famh1story@aol.com> To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital Having unemployed people transcribing is not a new idea. Doncaster did this many years ago under the auspices of the manpower commission and the quality varies from parish to parish. One I transcribed showed an amazing 60 percent error rate yet another had only 2 percent. To have people do this who really don't care is a waste of time and effort. One only as to look at some of the igi transcriptions to see this. Personally I would say join your local fhs and help them by giving a couple of hours a week to transcribe. Rob Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Ooooppss" <Ooooppss@btinternet.com> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:29:12 To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital Kevin Walker wrote, Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:08:14 +1200 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist > for this parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and > have no answer to my requests. ... and herein lies a sad tale. Our History Centre has microFs, but their printer is broken, and obsolete, so if you want a print-out, they re-scan the original and print from that - at your (vast) expense. "No, we have no plans - no money - to transcribe anything." I offered to give a "museum" a stack of my family history stuff, scanned onto DVD. "Thanks for the offer - but we can only accept microFs" ! Well, funny old thing, I don't *have* any facility to produce such a thing. So I put it onto a WebSite instead... *I* reckon that all these unemployed people on the dole (for which I pay) should earn their dole by doing transcriptions.... ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 04:32:31
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Kevin Walker
    3. Hi Janet I've been able to view transcriptions now and like you I find dozens of marriages and just two baptisms (much the same as on familysearch.org. The two most promising marriages are those for John in 1751 and Abraham in 1755, since the Abraham I'm looking for named his two sons John & Samuel. Interesting that there is no Samuel Moss in any of the marriages. I have the NBI 3 CD but it does not contain any MOSS burials for Devon. I don't think Abraham & Elizabeth would have moved north to Staffordshire, but then again I don't know that for sure. Their sons were born in Totnes in 1785 and 1786 and moved to Bristol via Somerset. Both remained in these areas until their deaths. I would love to locate burials for Abraham & Elizabeth. They would help narrow down birth years. Late here now so I'll pick this up in the morning. Thanks for your ideas. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Booth Sent: 11 April 2012 21:49 To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism Hello Kevin, Looking through the Parish Register transcripts of Alstonefield , there do not appear to be any MOSS baptisms or burials BUT there do appear to be a multitude of MOSS marriages. Listed below are what could be the relevant ones in your search for Abraham's parents: 11 November 1733 Isaac MOSS & Sarah SALT 15 August 1741 Elias MOSS & Sarah MILNER 7 May 1748 Abraham MOSS & Mary BRUNT 9 July 1751 John MOSS & Eliz. LOMAS 15 April 1755 Abraham MOSS & Mary GOODWIN in presence of Micah BENITT & Joseph HUDFIELD 24 August 1757 Jacob MOSS & Anne WARDLE of Hartington 3 May 1758 Luke MOSS & Mary LOMAS in presence of John MOSS & Geo LOMAS 13 September 1759 John MOSS & Kezia MOTTRAM in presence of Wm WOOD & Ezekiel WOOD 1 January 1765 Joseph MOSS & Eliz. BESWICK However, another clue for you may be via the National Burial Index which shows various burials at Quarnford, which is an ancient chapelry of Alstonefield, amongst which are several for an Abraham MOSS between 1762 & 1819, Elias MOSS between 1775 & 1824, Isaac MOSS between 1759 & 1823, John MOSS between 1759 & 1833 & Joseph MOSS 1762 & 1821 plus sundry wives and children presumably. All these burial names appear in the marriages which I have listed above so I am pretty certain that they did in fact live in Quarnford. The burials can be viewed on FMP which is a pay to view site. Given the strongly biblical forenames, could it be that the MOSS family were non-conformist which would explain why only the marriages appear in Alstonefield. Looking at one of the burials in more detail, it shows the burial of an Abraham MOSS on 26 October 1819 at Quarnford, aged 71, dedication at Flash Chapel. A Google search for Flash Chapel Quarnford states that it was built on half an acre of land in 1744 but that it was Church of England and the parish registers (Baptisms 1744-1847 & Burials 1744-1870) are deposited at Staffs Record Office, so it looks as if they did not perform marriages there which would explain why all the MOSS marriages were at Alstonefield. I'm afraid I can't help with Quarnford Baptisms or perhaps I can. Searching for Quarnford Parish Registers brings up the following site which might be helpful to you (www.hollinsclough.org.uk and click on Local History). It is not a complete list of the parish registers but only those residing at Hollinsclough, but there are several MOSS baptisms, etc amongst them the baptism of an Abraham MOSS on 6 December 1747 son of Elias & Sarah - might be a bit early for your Abraham but the site could be worth further investigation on your part as there is a lot more information other than the registers. Hope this helps Janet I have a marriage of Abraham MOSS to Elizabeth LAPTHORNE in Totnes, Devon in 1784. The marriage register entry states that Abraham was 'of Alstonfield, Staffordshire'. Whilst that doesn't mean he was born or baptised there, I would like to know if there is a baptism circa 1760, but possibly 1750 to 1763. I have no information regarding his age or parents' names, sorry. Still do not know when and where he died/was buried. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 04:31:58
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Kevin Walker
    3. Yes thanks Anne and I have the Alstonfield file now. -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anne Capewell Sent: 11 April 2012 21:25 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism Hi Kevin, Have you tried this site? http://www.dg.petch.btinternet.co.uk/Englishparishregisters.htm (scroll down to Staffordshire). hth, Anne > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:26:41 +0100 > From: pam@pamhurley.co.uk > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 > baptism > > There is a partial register at: > > http://archive.org/details/alstonfieldparis03alst > > A search of the site may reveal others. > > Best wishes, Pam. > > On 11/04/2012 06:08, Kevin Walker wrote: > > Dear List > > > > I have a marriage of Abraham MOSS to Elizabeth LAPTHORNE in Totnes, > > Devon in 1784. The marriage register entry states that Abraham was > > 'of Alstonfield, Staffordshire'. Whilst that doesn't mean he was > > born or baptised there, I would like to know if there is a baptism > > circa 1760, but possibly 1750 to 1763. I have no information regarding his age or parents' names, sorry. > > Still do not know when and where he died/was buried. > > > > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist for > > this parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and have no > > answer to my requests. I have also asked a volunteer for a lookup, with the same result. > > > > Would any Lister have access to the Alstonfield baptisms, and be > > willing to check for this name please? I'd be most grateful to know > > if Abraham might have been baptised in Alstonfield. > > > > Kind regards > > Kevin > > Auckland, NZ > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 04:30:25
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-ConformistRegisters
    2. Jim
    3. Your problem is that some or most of the non-conformist records were only filmed up to Civil Registration.I checked the Stoke on Trent Wesleyan records on FamilySearch and they filmed them from 1813 to 1837. I too have had the same problem in researching in Lancashire. I couldn't find a birth on Civil Registration and tried for a Baptizim at the family's Wesleyan Methodist Church but found that after Civil Registration in 1837 they didn't film the records after that date . These were the Baptizims of my Mother , her seven brothers and sisters and my Grandfather. I have a picture of the church(now gone to the wrecking ball) and on the back it tells that this is the church where the Aldred children were baptized. Good luck. Jim - Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-Conformist Registers > > I have a large number of relations including my father , grandparents and > great grandparents whom I know to have been non-conformists. All were > born > in the Hanley/ Stoke/Newcastle area but I have not been able to find any > of > their baptisms. Can anyone please tell me if they are on-line anywhere, > and maybe explain why they do not appear in the non-conformist records on > Family Search? I would love to find these for my records. Thanking you > > Diana in Tropical Far North Queensland > ****************************** > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 7046 (20120411) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 7046 (20120411) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4928 - Release Date: 04/11/12 >

    04/11/2012 03:07:41
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stoke on Trent/Newcastle Non-Conformist Registers
    2. Hi Diana I too have non conformist. They were the New Connexion Methodist Church in Longton. I was able to find a microfilm of their records at the Family History Center in Los Angeles. Most of my ancestors from 1825-1831 were baptized as infants. the records gave alot of information, but I do not know if any of these records are on-line now. the microfilm I found them on was film #0825394. Good luck Lory On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:43:42 +1000 thalauafu <dmlfamilyhistory@gmail.com> writes: > I have a large number of relations including my father , grandparents > and > great grandparents whom I know to have been non-conformists. All > were born > in the Hanley/ Stoke/Newcastle area but I have not been able to find > any of > their baptisms. Can anyone please tell me if they are on-line > anywhere, > and maybe explain why they do not appear in the non-conformist > records on > Family Search? I would love to find these for my records. Thanking > you > > Diana in Tropical Far North Queensland > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do > not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage > of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f864155390b33e00bast04duc

    04/11/2012 01:42:18
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Kevin Walker
    3. Hi Peter Yes, I did search the LDS batches in the way you say, and I printed the records. The two baptisms come a little later than my time. I agree that the marriage you selected might be the one, but it will help to have the earlier baptisms. Hoping someone will have the fiche and be able to view them. If not I shall order the fiche and post them to someone with access to a reader. Thanks for your input. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter R Booth Sent: 11 April 2012 17:52 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism Kevin, Quite difficult. I presume you've done a variety of searches at Family Search. I always like to look at what records they have available for a specific location using the Hugh Wallis site. Obviously if records aren't available, or don't cover the period in question, you won't get a result. Batches for Alstonfield look to cover broadly 1540-1837. But strangely in that time there are 41 MOSS marriages but only two MOSS christenings. And the two christenings look to be illegitimate children. Where are all the other children. Despite that, I draw your attention to the 1755 marriage of Abraham Moss & Mary Goodwin. I'd suggest that there is a high probability that these are the parents. But proving it may be another matter. Peter ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 12:24:02
    1. [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Kevin Walker
    3. Dear List I have a marriage of Abraham MOSS to Elizabeth LAPTHORNE in Totnes, Devon in 1784. The marriage register entry states that Abraham was 'of Alstonfield, Staffordshire'. Whilst that doesn't mean he was born or baptised there, I would like to know if there is a baptism circa 1760, but possibly 1750 to 1763. I have no information regarding his age or parents' names, sorry. Still do not know when and where he died/was buried. I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist for this parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and have no answer to my requests. I have also asked a volunteer for a lookup, with the same result. Would any Lister have access to the Alstonfield baptisms, and be willing to check for this name please? I'd be most grateful to know if Abraham might have been baptised in Alstonfield. Kind regards Kevin Auckland, NZ

    04/11/2012 11:08:14
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Peter R Booth
    3. Kevin, Quite difficult. I presume you've done a variety of searches at Family Search. I always like to look at what records they have available for a specific location using the Hugh Wallis site. Obviously if records aren't available, or don't cover the period in question, you won't get a result. Batches for Alstonfield look to cover broadly 1540-1837. But strangely in that time there are 41 MOSS marriages but only two MOSS christenings. And the two christenings look to be illegitimate children. Where are all the other children. Despite that, I draw your attention to the 1755 marriage of Abraham Moss & Mary Goodwin. I'd suggest that there is a high probability that these are the parents. But proving it may be another matter. Peter

    04/11/2012 09:51:51
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital
    2. Having unemployed people transcribing is not a new idea. Doncaster did this many years ago under the auspices of the manpower commission and the quality varies from parish to parish. One I transcribed showed an amazing 60 percent error rate yet another had only 2 percent. To have people do this who really don't care is a waste of time and effort. One only as to look at some of the igi transcriptions to see this. Personally I would say join your local fhs and help them by giving a couple of hours a week to transcribe. Rob Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Ooooppss" <Ooooppss@btinternet.com> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:29:12 To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital Kevin Walker wrote, Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:08:14 +1200 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist > for this parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and > have no answer to my requests. ... and herein lies a sad tale. Our History Centre has microFs, but their printer is broken, and obsolete, so if you want a print-out, they re-scan the original and print from that - at your (vast) expense. "No, we have no plans - no money - to transcribe anything." I offered to give a "museum" a stack of my family history stuff, scanned onto DVD. "Thanks for the offer - but we can only accept microFs" ! Well, funny old thing, I don't *have* any facility to produce such a thing. So I put it onto a WebSite instead... *I* reckon that all these unemployed people on the dole (for which I pay) should earn their dole by doing transcriptions.... ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 06:10:51
    1. [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital
    2. Ooooppss
    3. Kevin Walker wrote, Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:08:14 +1200 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist > for this parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and > have no answer to my requests. ... and herein lies a sad tale. Our History Centre has microFs, but their printer is broken, and obsolete, so if you want a print-out, they re-scan the original and print from that - at your (vast) expense. "No, we have no plans - no money - to transcribe anything." I offered to give a "museum" a stack of my family history stuff, scanned onto DVD. "Thanks for the offer - but we can only accept microFs" ! Well, funny old thing, I don't *have* any facility to produce such a thing. So I put it onto a WebSite instead... *I* reckon that all these unemployed people on the dole (for which I pay) should earn their dole by doing transcriptions....

    04/11/2012 05:29:12
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Janet Booth
    3. Hello Kevin, Looking through the Parish Register transcripts of Alstonefield , there do not appear to be any MOSS baptisms or burials BUT there do appear to be a multitude of MOSS marriages. Listed below are what could be the relevant ones in your search for Abraham's parents: 11 November 1733 Isaac MOSS & Sarah SALT 15 August 1741 Elias MOSS & Sarah MILNER 7 May 1748 Abraham MOSS & Mary BRUNT 9 July 1751 John MOSS & Eliz. LOMAS 15 April 1755 Abraham MOSS & Mary GOODWIN in presence of Micah BENITT & Joseph HUDFIELD 24 August 1757 Jacob MOSS & Anne WARDLE of Hartington 3 May 1758 Luke MOSS & Mary LOMAS in presence of John MOSS & Geo LOMAS 13 September 1759 John MOSS & Kezia MOTTRAM in presence of Wm WOOD & Ezekiel WOOD 1 January 1765 Joseph MOSS & Eliz. BESWICK However, another clue for you may be via the National Burial Index which shows various burials at Quarnford, which is an ancient chapelry of Alstonefield, amongst which are several for an Abraham MOSS between 1762 & 1819, Elias MOSS between 1775 & 1824, Isaac MOSS between 1759 & 1823, John MOSS between 1759 & 1833 & Joseph MOSS 1762 & 1821 plus sundry wives and children presumably. All these burial names appear in the marriages which I have listed above so I am pretty certain that they did in fact live in Quarnford. The burials can be viewed on FMP which is a pay to view site. Given the strongly biblical forenames, could it be that the MOSS family were non-conformist which would explain why only the marriages appear in Alstonefield. Looking at one of the burials in more detail, it shows the burial of an Abraham MOSS on 26 October 1819 at Quarnford, aged 71, dedication at Flash Chapel. A Google search for Flash Chapel Quarnford states that it was built on half an acre of land in 1744 but that it was Church of England and the parish registers (Baptisms 1744-1847 & Burials 1744-1870) are deposited at Staffs Record Office, so it looks as if they did not perform marriages there which would explain why all the MOSS marriages were at Alstonefield. I'm afraid I can't help with Quarnford Baptisms or perhaps I can. Searching for Quarnford Parish Registers brings up the following site which might be helpful to you (www.hollinsclough.org.uk and click on Local History). It is not a complete list of the parish registers but only those residing at Hollinsclough, but there are several MOSS baptisms, etc amongst them the baptism of an Abraham MOSS on 6 December 1747 son of Elias & Sarah - might be a bit early for your Abraham but the site could be worth further investigation on your part as there is a lot more information other than the registers. Hope this helps Janet I have a marriage of Abraham MOSS to Elizabeth LAPTHORNE in Totnes, Devon in 1784. The marriage register entry states that Abraham was 'of Alstonfield, Staffordshire'. Whilst that doesn't mean he was born or baptised there, I would like to know if there is a baptism circa 1760, but possibly 1750 to 1763. I have no information regarding his age or parents' names, sorry. Still do not know when and where he died/was buried.

    04/11/2012 04:48:40
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Anne Capewell
    3. Hi Kevin, Have you tried this site? http://www.dg.petch.btinternet.co.uk/Englishparishregisters.htm (scroll down to Staffordshire). hth, Anne > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:26:41 +0100 > From: pam@pamhurley.co.uk > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism > > There is a partial register at: > > http://archive.org/details/alstonfieldparis03alst > > A search of the site may reveal others. > > Best wishes, Pam. > > On 11/04/2012 06:08, Kevin Walker wrote: > > Dear List > > > > I have a marriage of Abraham MOSS to Elizabeth LAPTHORNE in Totnes, Devon in > > 1784. The marriage register entry states that Abraham was 'of Alstonfield, > > Staffordshire'. Whilst that doesn't mean he was born or baptised there, I > > would like to know if there is a baptism circa 1760, but possibly 1750 to > > 1763. I have no information regarding his age or parents' names, sorry. > > Still do not know when and where he died/was buried. > > > > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist for this > > parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and have no answer to my > > requests. I have also asked a volunteer for a lookup, with the same result. > > > > Would any Lister have access to the Alstonfield baptisms, and be willing to > > check for this name please? I'd be most grateful to know if Abraham might > > have been baptised in Alstonfield. > > > > Kind regards > > Kevin > > Auckland, NZ > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 04:24:39
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Pam Hurley
    3. There is a partial register at: http://archive.org/details/alstonfieldparis03alst A search of the site may reveal others. Best wishes, Pam. On 11/04/2012 06:08, Kevin Walker wrote: > Dear List > > I have a marriage of Abraham MOSS to Elizabeth LAPTHORNE in Totnes, Devon in > 1784. The marriage register entry states that Abraham was 'of Alstonfield, > Staffordshire'. Whilst that doesn't mean he was born or baptised there, I > would like to know if there is a baptism circa 1760, but possibly 1750 to > 1763. I have no information regarding his age or parents' names, sorry. > Still do not know when and where he died/was buried. > > I have contacted Staff/Birm FHS and note that microfiche exist for this > parish. I have asked about transcriptions on CD, and have no answer to my > requests. I have also asked a volunteer for a lookup, with the same result. > > Would any Lister have access to the Alstonfield baptisms, and be willing to > check for this name please? I'd be most grateful to know if Abraham might > have been baptised in Alstonfield. > > Kind regards > Kevin > Auckland, NZ > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/11/2012 03:26:41
    1. Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Abraham MOSS - Alstonfield - c1760 baptism
    2. Lin Lamberg
    3. Kevin, your local Library or Archives will have a reader. Linda.

    04/11/2012 03:21:26
    1. [STAFFORDSHIRE] Yesterdays updated
    2. mike spencer
    3. Hi list, further school admissions added with pupils at Derby St Chad and Etwall showing Staffs connections. Link below, if it fails Google Yesterdays Journey. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

    04/10/2012 06:48:32