Hi Marilyn, details of the marriage you found:- No image available Name: Frederick Bate Event: Marriage Event Date: 03 Mar 1900 Event Place: St Thomas, Stockton-Heath, Cheshire, England Gender: Male Age: 21y Marital Status: Single Father: Frederick Bates Mother: Spouse: Diana James Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Father: Eli James Spouse's Mother: Film Number: 2106219 Digital Folder Number: 4019023 Image Number: is it the one? Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Watson Family" <watsonb@iinet.com.au> To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] re Diana/Dinah James born c1872 Basford > At 05:18 PM 19/04/2012, you wrote: >>Basford RD will cover parts if not all of Langley Mill. >> >>I'm fairly sure your Diana/Dinah is the one registered born Basford RD >>DecQ 1873 7b/111 >> >>Spellings aren't totally reliable - Dinah and Diana are pretty close when >>spoken in a Langley Mill accent. Nor are dates - so born 1873 is exact for >>the 1881 census, and close enough for 1891. > > Hi Andy, > Great I now think, thanks to Althea, that Diana was the child of John > James 2nd marriage to Sara Tomlinson. Althea pointed out what I missed > that > Diana in the 1891 census says she was a sister of William Tomlinson whose > house they were staying at in Derby. > I did find a marriage of a Diana James to Frederick Bate in 1900 at > Runcorn > Cheshire the rest of the marriages were in Wales but as yet haven't found > them on the 1901 census > Many thanks for all your help. It is greatly appreciated > Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marilyn Basford RD will cover parts if not all of Langley Mill. I'm fairly sure your Diana/Dinah is the one registered born Basford RD DecQ 1873 7b/111 Spellings aren't totally reliable - Dinah and Diana are pretty close when spoken in a Langley Mill accent. Nor are dates - so born 1873 is exact for the 1881 census, and close enough for 1891. HTH Andy. At 10:02 19/04/2012, you wrote: >Hi Andy, > Tried that on exact but no Dinah or Diana comes up being born at Langley >Mill Derbyshire drat >Just tells me there is none. Looks like Dinah probably had another name >just to confuse me >I did find a birth for Diana James 1873 at Basford which apparently is >between Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire. No Dinah that struck a chord though >Is Basford near Langley Mill at all? >She uses Diana in the 1891 census at Derby while with her stepmother Sarah >Many thanks for your input. It is greatly appreciated as I do find >Ancestry rather frustrating >Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > >At 02:54 PM 19/04/2012, you wrote: >>Could it be Langley Mill not Landley Mill. >>Andy >> >>At 04:49 19/04/2012, you wrote: >> >Hi List, >> > Sorry for the confusion .I must have worded that email cockeyed. I >> >already have the 1881 census as well as the 1891 census as well as the 1901 >> >census for the James Family >> >I am now looking for any signs of Dinah or Diana James born 1872 at Landley >> >Mill Derbyshire >> >In 1891 census she is with her stepmother Sarah in Derby. I can't seem to >> >find her after that though. >> >Her stepmother Sarah was only visiting as in the 1901 census she is back at >> >Tipton with her husband John James >> >Many thanks for your help >> >Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >****************************** >> >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of >> ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >> >------------------------------- >> > >> >------------------------------- >> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>****************************** >>ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >>MATERIALS. >>------------------------------- >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >------------------------------- > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pen: Probably someone had come along at a late stage (twice) with a small claim against the estate which meant that the assets were a little less than previously though. Best wishes Paul 2012/4/19 pentrueman <pentrueman@cytanet.com.cy>: > Can someone explain to me some phrasing in a summary of Probate findings? > > : - The Effects are described as  £9845. 13s.8d. > Undereneath which is written: - > Resworn £9840.1s.2d. and £9775.19s.2d. > > There were two beneficieries, both in the same legal company. > The previous findings of the Will were negated. > Is there anyone out there anymore with appropriate knowledge who might help? > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you somehow unchecked "exact matches only"? (top left of the search form) Andy At 04:41 19/04/2012, you wrote: >At 11:39 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: >>My Ancestry results come up the same was as they ever did. > > >Hi Mike, > I wish mine did:-) I must be doing something scewwhiff >Cheers Marilyn > > > > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >------------------------------- > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could it be Langley Mill not Landley Mill. Andy At 04:49 19/04/2012, you wrote: >Hi List, > Sorry for the confusion .I must have worded that email cockeyed. I >already have the 1881 census as well as the 1891 census as well as the 1901 >census for the James Family >I am now looking for any signs of Dinah or Diana James born 1872 at Landley >Mill Derbyshire >In 1891 census she is with her stepmother Sarah in Derby. I can't seem to >find her after that though. >Her stepmother Sarah was only visiting as in the 1901 census she is back at >Tipton with her husband John James >Many thanks for your help >Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > > > > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. >------------------------------- > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone explain to me some phrasing in a summary of Probate findings? : - The Effects are described as £9845. 13s.8d. Undereneath which is written: - Resworn £9840.1s.2d. and £9775.19s.2d. There were two beneficieries, both in the same legal company. The previous findings of the Will were negated. Is there anyone out there anymore with appropriate knowledge who might help?

At 11:04 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: >As for the BMD the civil registration is there right up to 2005, though >some of the quality of indexing/transcription from 1916 onwards is a bit off. Sorry Steve I meant the free BDM at Staffordshire & West Midlands.The one that Bill keeps updating Because they do a 5 year search that's why I was wanting to use that. John James is such a common name. Tipton Staffordshire was their last address in 1901.John was born 1836 in Wales Pembrokeshire Many thanks Cheers Marilyn

At 10:46 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: > Search for 'J >George James' born in 'Chattham' to find them. Well done Ruth. Really really appreciate your help. I find Ancestry so frustrating but your help sorted out my problems. Now if you can only find Dinah James born 1872 at landley Mill Derbyshire 1881 census John 42 married to Sara Tomlinson 40 b. Bedworth WAR and living at 16 Leabrook Tipton Staffordshire occupation boat builder with children Charles 14 b. Chatham Kent iron worker, Benjamin 12 b. Chatham Kent, Margaret James 10 b. Walsall Staff. Scholar Dinah 8 b. Landley Mill Derby, Sydney 6, Gethin 4, Joseph 2 and Walter 8 mths. All born Tipton Staff. last seen 1891 Census 27 Agard St, Derby Sarah James 25 born Bedworth Warwickshire Son William Tomlinson,23 coal merchant born Walsall, Alfred Tomlinson,19 iron fettler,born Walsall Staffordshire Diana (Dinah)James 17 born Langley Mill Derbyshire Sydney James16 labourer born Ocker Hill Staffordshire ,Gethern James 14 scholar ditto Walter James,10 ditto Sarah James 8 born Gospel Oak Staffordshire George Skevington a nursechild age 5 born Derby Once agan many thanks for all your great help Cheers Marilynn from Western Australia

Hi Ruth, yes it certainly seems to be them. I had a look on Scotlands People, occupation is certainly right.Unfortunately not in the same place in the 1911 census. Looks like Florence and Alice went missing though. Because of the new way Ancestry now comes up I keep forgetting Scotland so many thanks for that As you say certainly only the one Inez born c 1887 as she is certainly the right age Really appreciate your help Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia At 10:20 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: >I think they could be the family in the 1901 Scotland Census in Dalziel in >Lanarkshire - John James, aged 33, born England, occupation: under roller >at steel mill, wife Mary aged 31, children: Inez, 14; Elsie, 8; Freda, 6; >John, 4; Gladys, 3; Reny, 1. The ages of John and Mary are a little out, >but the occupation and daughter Inez look like a match. According to >FreeBMD there was only one Inez James born in England in the 1860s. > >On 18 April 2012 14:45, Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Hope SKS can help out here. > > I found my family on the 1891 census > > 1891 census > > Wednesday Staffordshire 60 Holyhead Road > > Francis Mills 53 shingler in Iron works born Shropshire Horsehay > > Sarah Mills 47 Shropshire Reece > > Edith 14 born Staffordshire Wednesday > > John James 25 son-in-law, born Chatham Staffordshire (should be Kent) > > shingler in iron works Married Mary Ellen Mills Dec 1886 at Dudley > > Staffordshire > > Ellen James 28 wife of John dau of Head born Staffordshire Greatbridge > > Inez 4 born Greatbridge Staffordshire > > Florence 2 born Tipton Staffordshire > > Alice 3 months born Tipton Staffordshire > > > > > > In 1901 Census > > There is also an Ethel James 10 born Wednesday Staffordshire with her > > grandparents Francis and Sarah Mills at Holyhead Road > > > > Can't find any of the rest of the family > > John James born 1866 at Chatham > > Ellen James c. 1865 born Greatbridge > > Inez born 1887 Greatbridge Staff > > Florence born 1889 Tipton Staff > > Alice born 1890 Tipton Staff > > > > Many thanks for any help > > Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > > > > > ****************************** > > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > > MATERIALS. > > ------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >****************************** >ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >MATERIALS. >------------------------------- > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Does Ancestry actually have 1911 Census for all of Staffordshire? Also re the Staffordshire BDM page is Tipton on there up past 1911? Manyy thanks Marilyn from Western Australia

Hi, Hope SKS can help out here. I found my family on the 1891 census 1891 census Wednesday Staffordshire 60 Holyhead Road Francis Mills 53 shingler in Iron works born Shropshire Horsehay Sarah Mills 47 Shropshire Reece Edith 14 born Staffordshire Wednesday John James 25 son-in-law, born Chatham Staffordshire (should be Kent) shingler in iron works Married Mary Ellen Mills Dec 1886 at Dudley Staffordshire Ellen James 28 wife of John dau of Head born Staffordshire Greatbridge Inez 4 born Greatbridge Staffordshire Florence 2 born Tipton Staffordshire Alice 3 months born Tipton Staffordshire In 1901 Census There is also an Ethel James 10 born Wednesday Staffordshire with her grandparents Francis and Sarah Mills at Holyhead Road Can't find any of the rest of the family John James born 1866 at Chatham Ellen James c. 1865 born Greatbridge Inez born 1887 Greatbridge Staff Florence born 1889 Tipton Staff Alice born 1890 Tipton Staff Many thanks for any help Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia

If you send me your email address I can send actual copy Name Age John James 42 boat builder from Pembroke Sarah James 40 Charles James 14 Benjamin James 12 Margaret James 10 Dinah James 8 Sydney James 6 Gethin James 4 Joseph James 2 Walter James George Tomlinson 17 John Tomlinson 13 William Tomlinson 11 Thomas Tomlinson 9 Althea -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christine Shelmerdine Sent: 18 April 2012 16:46 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] re ANCESTRY 1911 Staffordshire Have found them in the 1881 census,what a big family, On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: > At 10:46 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: > > Search for 'J > >George James' born in 'Chattham' to find them. > > > Well done Ruth. Really really appreciate your help. I find Ancestry so > frustrating but your help sorted out my problems. > Now if you can only find Dinah James born 1872 at landley Mill > Derbyshire > 1881 census > John 42 married to Sara Tomlinson 40 b. Bedworth WAR and living at 16 > Leabrook Tipton Staffordshire occupation boat builder with children > Charles > 14 b. Chatham Kent iron worker, Benjamin 12 b. Chatham Kent, Margaret > James > 10 b. Walsall Staff. Scholar Dinah 8 b. Landley Mill Derby, Sydney 6, > Gethin 4, Joseph 2 and Walter 8 mths. All born Tipton Staff. > last seen > 1891 Census > 27 Agard St, Derby > Sarah James 25 born Bedworth Warwickshire Son William Tomlinson,23 > coal merchant born Walsall, Alfred Tomlinson,19 iron fettler,born > Walsall Staffordshire Diana (Dinah)James 17 born Langley Mill > Derbyshire Sydney James16 labourer born Ocker Hill Staffordshire > ,Gethern James 14 scholar ditto Walter James,10 ditto Sarah James 8 > born Gospel Oak Staffordshire George Skevington a nursechild age 5 > born Derby > > Once agan many thanks for all your great help Cheers Marilynn from > Western Australia > > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of > ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Christine Shelmerdine ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have found them in the 1881 census,what a big family, On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: > At 10:46 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: > > Search for 'J > >George James' born in 'Chattham' to find them. > > > Well done Ruth. Really really appreciate your help. I find Ancestry so > frustrating but your help sorted out my problems. > Now if you can only find Dinah James born 1872 at landley Mill Derbyshire > 1881 census > John 42 married to Sara Tomlinson 40 b. Bedworth WAR and living at 16 > Leabrook Tipton Staffordshire occupation boat builder with children Charles > 14 b. Chatham Kent iron worker, Benjamin 12 b. Chatham Kent, Margaret James > 10 b. Walsall Staff. Scholar Dinah 8 b. Landley Mill Derby, Sydney 6, > Gethin 4, Joseph 2 and Walter 8 mths. All born Tipton Staff. > last seen > 1891 Census > 27 Agard St, Derby > Sarah James 25 born Bedworth Warwickshire > Son William Tomlinson,23 coal merchant born Walsall, > Alfred Tomlinson,19 iron fettler,born Walsall Staffordshire > Diana (Dinah)James 17 born Langley Mill Derbyshire > Sydney James16 labourer born Ocker Hill Staffordshire > ,Gethern James 14 scholar ditto > Walter James,10 ditto > Sarah James 8 born Gospel Oak Staffordshire > George Skevington a nursechild age 5 born Derby > > Once agan many thanks for all your great help > Cheers Marilynn from Western Australia > > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Christine Shelmerdine

Hi Marilyn What is this "Because of the new way Ancestry" ? My Ancestry results come up the same was as they ever did. Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com On 18/04/2012 15:58, Watson Family wrote: > Hi Ruth, > yes it certainly seems to be them. I had a look on Scotlands People, > occupation is certainly right.Unfortunately not in the same place in the > 1911 census. Looks like Florence and Alice went missing though. Because of > the new way Ancestry now comes up I keep forgetting Scotland so many thanks > for that > As you say certainly only the one Inez born c 1887 as she is certainly the > right age > Really appreciate your help > Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > At 10:20 PM 18/04/2012, you wrote: >> I think they could be the family in the 1901 Scotland Census in Dalziel in >> Lanarkshire - John James, aged 33, born England, occupation: under roller >> at steel mill, wife Mary aged 31, children: Inez, 14; Elsie, 8; Freda, 6; >> John, 4; Gladys, 3; Reny, 1. The ages of John and Mary are a little out, >> but the occupation and daughter Inez look like a match. According to >> FreeBMD there was only one Inez James born in England in the 1860s. >> >> On 18 April 2012 14:45, Watson Family<watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Hope SKS can help out here. >>> I found my family on the 1891 census >>> 1891 census >>> Wednesday Staffordshire 60 Holyhead Road >>> Francis Mills 53 shingler in Iron works born Shropshire Horsehay >>> Sarah Mills 47 Shropshire Reece >>> Edith 14 born Staffordshire Wednesday >>> John James 25 son-in-law, born Chatham Staffordshire (should be Kent) >>> shingler in iron works Married Mary Ellen Mills Dec 1886 at Dudley >>> Staffordshire >>> Ellen James 28 wife of John dau of Head born Staffordshire Greatbridge >>> Inez 4 born Greatbridge Staffordshire >>> Florence 2 born Tipton Staffordshire >>> Alice 3 months born Tipton Staffordshire >>> >>> >>> In 1901 Census >>> There is also an Ethel James 10 born Wednesday Staffordshire with her >>> grandparents Francis and Sarah Mills at Holyhead Road >>> >>> Can't find any of the rest of the family >>> John James born 1866 at Chatham >>> Ellen James c. 1865 born Greatbridge >>> Inez born 1887 Greatbridge Staff >>> Florence born 1889 Tipton Staff >>> Alice born 1890 Tipton Staff >>> >>> Many thanks for any help >>> Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia >>> >>> >>> ****************************** >>> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >>> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >>> MATERIALS. >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

From the Ancestry 1911 page "We now have the full 1911 Census, with all the scanned pages. Currently, the only pages that are searchable using the form on the left are the Summary Books. These provide an outline of the information, including the head of the household, how many people were living there and what kind of property it was. To use the complete census, you’ll need to select a specific collection, such as the England or Wales Census, from the list on the left. You can then use the ‘Browse this collection’ options on the right to view the records for a particular county and parish." As for the BMD the civil registration is there right up to 2005, though some of the quality of indexing/transcription from 1916 onwards is a bit off. Regards Steve On 18/04/2012 15:08, Watson Family wrote: > Hi, > Does Ancestry actually have 1911 Census for all of Staffordshire? > > Also re the Staffordshire BDM page is Tipton on there up past 1911? > > Manyy thanks > Marilyn from Western Australia > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Staffordshire doesn't appear in the dropdown list of counties on the 1911 census search place so I assume that means it is yet to be transcribed. However, Ancestry do have Cheshire for 1911 and your JAMES family mentioned in your other email was in Stockport, Cheshire that year. Search for 'J George James' born in 'Chattham' to find them. On 18 April 2012 15:08, Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > Does Ancestry actually have 1911 Census for all of Staffordshire? > > Also re the Staffordshire BDM page is Tipton on there up past 1911? > > Manyy thanks > Marilyn from Western Australia > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry - that should have said 1880s, not 1860s. On 18 April 2012 15:20, Ruth Selman <historyscape@gmail.com> wrote: > I think they could be the family in the 1901 Scotland Census in Dalziel in > Lanarkshire - John James, aged 33, born England, occupation: under roller > at steel mill, wife Mary aged 31, children: Inez, 14; Elsie, 8; Freda, 6; > John, 4; Gladys, 3; Reny, 1. The ages of John and Mary are a little out, > but the occupation and daughter Inez look like a match. According to > FreeBMD there was only one Inez James born in England in the 1860s. > > > On 18 April 2012 14:45, Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Hope SKS can help out here. >> I found my family on the 1891 census >> 1891 census >> Wednesday Staffordshire 60 Holyhead Road >> Francis Mills 53 shingler in Iron works born Shropshire Horsehay >> Sarah Mills 47 Shropshire Reece >> Edith 14 born Staffordshire Wednesday >> John James 25 son-in-law, born Chatham Staffordshire (should be Kent) >> shingler in iron works Married Mary Ellen Mills Dec 1886 at Dudley >> Staffordshire >> Ellen James 28 wife of John dau of Head born Staffordshire Greatbridge >> Inez 4 born Greatbridge Staffordshire >> Florence 2 born Tipton Staffordshire >> Alice 3 months born Tipton Staffordshire >> >> >> In 1901 Census >> There is also an Ethel James 10 born Wednesday Staffordshire with her >> grandparents Francis and Sarah Mills at Holyhead Road >> >> Can't find any of the rest of the family >> John James born 1866 at Chatham >> Ellen James c. 1865 born Greatbridge >> Inez born 1887 Greatbridge Staff >> Florence born 1889 Tipton Staff >> Alice born 1890 Tipton Staff >> >> Many thanks for any help >> Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia >> >> >> ****************************** >> ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not >> apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED >> MATERIALS. >> ------------------------------- >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

I think they could be the family in the 1901 Scotland Census in Dalziel in Lanarkshire - John James, aged 33, born England, occupation: under roller at steel mill, wife Mary aged 31, children: Inez, 14; Elsie, 8; Freda, 6; John, 4; Gladys, 3; Reny, 1. The ages of John and Mary are a little out, but the occupation and daughter Inez look like a match. According to FreeBMD there was only one Inez James born in England in the 1860s. On 18 April 2012 14:45, Watson Family <watsonb@iinet.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > Hope SKS can help out here. > I found my family on the 1891 census > 1891 census > Wednesday Staffordshire 60 Holyhead Road > Francis Mills 53 shingler in Iron works born Shropshire Horsehay > Sarah Mills 47 Shropshire Reece > Edith 14 born Staffordshire Wednesday > John James 25 son-in-law, born Chatham Staffordshire (should be Kent) > shingler in iron works Married Mary Ellen Mills Dec 1886 at Dudley > Staffordshire > Ellen James 28 wife of John dau of Head born Staffordshire Greatbridge > Inez 4 born Greatbridge Staffordshire > Florence 2 born Tipton Staffordshire > Alice 3 months born Tipton Staffordshire > > > In 1901 Census > There is also an Ethel James 10 born Wednesday Staffordshire with her > grandparents Francis and Sarah Mills at Holyhead Road > > Can't find any of the rest of the family > John James born 1866 at Chatham > Ellen James c. 1865 born Greatbridge > Inez born 1887 Greatbridge Staff > Florence born 1889 Tipton Staff > Alice born 1890 Tipton Staff > > Many thanks for any help > Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I hope SKS will be able to help JOHN JAMES born 1836 born Pembrokeshire Wales but his age varies from census to census in 1901 census he has himself down as 55. He was a boat builder or ship's carpenter and living at 29 Walker St Tipton He was living with his wife Sarah who also altered her age to 50 1901 census 29 Walker St Tipton Staffordshire John age 56 ( should have been 65) canal boat worker born Castlemartin Pembrokeshire Wales 2nd wife Sara Tomlinson 50 Bedworth Leicestershire Walter son 21 excavator born Tipton Staffordshire Alfred James 9 b.Birmingham Wombelton, adopted son Previous to that Sarah was born c 1836 I am trying to find their deaths and considering they were mostly at Tipton certainly there in the 1891 and 1901 census I did find a Sarah James age 67 death last quarter 1906 Dudley Staffordshire Only John James possible was in 1904 at West Bromwich aged 67 which is not Dudley of course Is it cheaper to get it from Staffordshire Records Office or GRO. Is the same information on both? Any suggestions are really welcome and will be greatly appreciated Many thanks Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia

What a damn good idea ! Michael -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ooooppss" <Ooooppss@btinternet.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:29 AM To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Microfiche/film to digital > > > > > *I* reckon that all these unemployed people on the dole (for which I > pay for) should earn their dole by doing transcriptions.... >