Trish, At best the marriage will only give names of fathers of bride and groom. The way to go is look for the couple in 1871 census to get their birthplaces and then look for them with parents in 1851 and 1861. Peter

Hi I am new to the list and would really appreciate any help re this family. MARY ANN WOODHALL born 1847 Jan-March NETHERTON KINGS NORTON Staffordshire.Married BENJAMIN BLOCKLEY Oct-Dec 1869 KINGS NORTON Worcestershire. I would appreciate a lookup of this marriage in the hope that it will give further details re their parents.They had 2 children in UK, JOHN HENRY born 1871 Birmingham Warwickshire and GEORGE JAS born 1873. They then emigrated to New Zealand1873 on the 'DOUGLAS', and had 3 other children in NZ. James Joseph 1875, Thomas Alexander 1878, and Mary Douglas 1873. Does anyone have any links to this family? Hoping to hear from someone. Trish Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 1685 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

Bill, Many thanks for allowing me to look at Matthew Meddings in your tree, I can't see a connection to mine at the moment but it is possible. Your idea of the Bassetts visiting relatives in 1861 is probably right, they may not have got there in time for any recording of their details. Lilian -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of staffordshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 16 August 2012 00:21 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 219 PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! Today's Topics: 1. 1911 census free (John Bennett) 2. Re: Fwd: St John's, Lane End baptisms 1810-1818 (Sian MacKian) 3. Re: Fwd: St John's, Lane End baptisms 1810-1818 (Sian MacKian) 4. Re: STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 218 Meddings/Bassett Brickwalls (Lilian Fowler) 5. MELLOR (Ravenstone) 6. Mellor (Pam Hurley) 7. Re: Brickwalls - Bassett/Meddings (Harrison Genealogy) 8. Lookup please WOODHALL, BLOCKLEY Staffordshire 1830- (Trish Thomson) 9. Re: Lookup please WOODHALL, BLOCKLEY Staffordshire 1830- (Peter R Booth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:33:38 +0100 From: John Bennett <john-bennett@ntlworld.com> Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 1911 census free To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9E1BACB4-0014-4517-96A4-E6DAE9B2135F@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just been advised 1911 census available free until 21st August. http://www.ancestry.co.uk/1911Census?o_xid=52030&o_lid=52030&o_sch=Email ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:35:53 +0100 From: Sian MacKian <sianmackian@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Fwd: St John's, Lane End baptisms 1810-1818 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAOvxa63Hs35a46anRVpdmeCH5q2zDtwdRDC0MPc7D0W4cF-stA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Steve Thank you for emailing me. I do understand that it was a chapelry of St Peter's, Stoke at that time. However Genuki says that "The register of St John, Longton, commences in 1764." I have tried all the suggestions you made but it was a while ago, so maybe it is time to have another go. Kind regards Sian ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:41:11 +0100 From: Sian MacKian <sianmackian@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Fwd: St John's, Lane End baptisms 1810-1818 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAOvxa61p-7tm5xH3sc6Z5p3pxN=J=uFhUxog2knN23b5fUvDfQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sorry Steve but I forgot to mention that all of Emma's mother's siblings were baptised in St John's between 1791 and 1805. Sian ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:49:28 +0100 From: "Lilian Fowler" <lilian.fowler@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 218 Meddings/Bassett Brickwalls To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0E7F5022E5C2487086FFCFDE964AC5C1@yourai3cazt00s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of staffordshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 15 August 2012 08:01 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 218 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:02:22 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brickwalls - Bassett/Meddings To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000c01cd79ea$c0f8ee60$0400a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Lilian, I don't mean to be rude, but you've failed to establish the basics. You should be able to at least find the marriages of both couples and then purchasing certificates should provide parents. Perhaps it's how you write it down. With over 25 years of experience I've learned to think this way. Daniel Bassett born c1819 Carmarthenshire, and Catherine .............. born c1817 Breconshire were married on ............ at ......................... Known children were Elizabeth b......... Mary b........... Leah b............... In 1841 census he was a ................ at.................. In 1851 census he was a ................ at.................. In 1861 census he was a ................ at.................. Etc, etc I'm looking for descendants / ancestors of .............. Similarly, John Meddings born 1840 Bridgnorth, Shrop and Emma ...............born 1839 in Wolverhampton were married on ............ at ......................... Known children were Jane b1874 John Henry b1877 I'm looking for deaths and .................... Looking at ages, both marriages should be on FreeBMD. I could find them, but I have a feeling you know them. Daniel & Catherine's origins may be a bit harder because of earlier dates but John & Emma should appear with parents in at least 1841 & 1851 census. You also need to make it clear if you are looking for births, deaths, ancestors or relatives. Hope this helps to get some better results. Peter ------------------------------ Hello Peter, I appreciate your reply - I possibly didn't make my details clear. I have the marriage certificate of Daniel and Catherine Bassett nee Williams and also their death certificates and where they are buried. I of course know their parents from these. I have the census records from 1841/1851/71/81 and know where they are living on those dates. 1861 for Daniel, Catherine and their children I can't find and I would like to know whether they were still in Wales at that time, I feel that they were but without proof I can't be sure. 1891 census is a mystery for me as regards to Daniel as he was alive until 1895. His youngest daughter Leah Bassett was my gt. Grandmother. I have her birth, marriage and death certificates, and again I have her burial record - however I have looked for her on the 1881 census when she was married to William Banner and have not been able to find her either in the Stoke on Trent, West Bromwich areas and even in Wales just in case they were visitors to relatives, so this is another case of really wanting to know where they were at that time. I know that most of the Bassetts were ironworkers at the Iron and Steel works locally and until they moved to Staffordshire were generations of Welsh people. William Banner was a miner. Regarding John and Emma Meddings(nee Armstrong) I have their birth, marriage and death certificates and where they are buried. I have had a bit of difficulty in locating them on the 1861 census as they didn't marry until 1862, but having looked at the 1861 differently I think that I have found them and neither of them were living with their parents at that time. It is the 1881 census again that I find frustrating as I have tried to think of different ways and ideas of looking but still no luck. Meddings as a name isn't that common and could be spelled in different ways. I have been very lucky in the sense that I am in touch with members of both families, but it appears that we are all looking at the same brick walls. Once again Peter, many thanks to you. Lilian ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 05:24:59 +1200 From: "Ravenstone" <stretton_research@ihug.co.nz> Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] MELLOR To: "List - Staffs Messages" <STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <34B96C66AA144C3BA51C804A13DE4FA0@ron7f9dbc63515> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi List, Would like to make contact with persons researching the family of MELLOR's from the following areas, Bradley, Brewood, Tatenhill, Barton under Needwood, Burton on Trent. At one time the were in the Parish of Donington, Shropshire and a female line went to Manchester, Lancashire. Cheers Ron ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:20:01 +0100 From: Pam Hurley <pam@pamhurley.co.uk> Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Mellor To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <502BE851.6020209@pamhurley.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Ron I have Mellors from Cauldon with Thomas b. 1808 moving to Derby in the 1830s. Are they of interest? Best wishes, Pam. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:43:11 +0100 From: "Harrison Genealogy" <bill@harrisongenealogy.co.uk> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brickwalls - Bassett/Meddings To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000b01cd7b15$d2a91b40$77fb51c0$@harrisongenealogy.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lilian Remember .... the 1861 census was taken over the Easter Bank Holiday weekend and families went to visit their kin at this time so ... you may find them away from home in this census. Regarding "MEDDING" family I have one link on my tree ... check out my online tree for details ... URL below. Regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org Also Webmaster of The Staffordshire BMD which can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk Also Webmaster of the Old Nortonian Society whose pages can be found at http://www.oldnortoniansociety.org.uk ======================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lilian Fowler Sent: 14 August 2012 06:52 To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brickwalls - Bassett/Meddings Hello everyone, I am once again trying to knock down a few brick walls - I gave up a few years ago as I felt that I had tried all avenues but I have decided to try my luck once more and would ask for any suggestions and help in the following 1861 - DANIEL AND CATHERINE BASSETT and their children Daniel born c1819 Carmarthenshire, Catherine c1817 Breconshire living in Abersychan, Monmouthshire 1841/1851 - think that they would still be living in that area, as their Eldest daughter Elizabeth married James Stephens in 1864 they had a son born William born c1866 Aberyschan/Pontypool. A daughter Mary also had a son James (no father given) 1866, Abersychan/Pontypool. They had other children, the youngest being Leah born 1851. 1871 census they had moved to the Stoke on Trent area, and remained there. Catherine died in 1888 and Daniel in 1895, they are buried in Hanley Cemetery. However, I can find no record of Daniel on the 1891 census. 1881 - Leah is married to William Banner and is also living in the Stoke on Trent area, as William was born in West Bromwich I have looked there in case they were visiting his relatives, but again I haven't been able to find them. 1881 JOHN AND EMMA MEDDINGS and their children - John was born Bridgnorth, Shropshire 1840 and Emma in Wolverhampton 1839 but moved to Stoke on Trent area middle/late 1870's with their older children who were all born in Wolverhampton. However, their daughter Jane born 1874 and my grandfather John Henry born 1877 were born in Stoke on Trent. I have looked in Wolverhampton in case this family were visiting relatives. I know that the Medddings name has been written in various ways - i.e., Middins/Meddin/Meadin, and probably others, I have tried all of them. I would appreciate any help at all on these queries, my thanks in advance. Best Wishes Lilian ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:02:15 +1000 From: "Trish Thomson" <jpthoms@bigpond.net.au> Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Lookup please WOODHALL, BLOCKLEY Staffordshire 1830- To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4EB796C813B04EC48BC47A4EC590927A@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi I am new to the list and would really appreciate any help re this family. MARY ANN WOODHALL born 1847 Jan-March NETHERTON KINGS NORTON Staffordshire.Married BENJAMIN BLOCKLEY Oct-Dec 1869 KINGS NORTON Worcestershire. I would appreciate a lookup of this marriage in the hope that it will give further details re their parents.They had 2 children in UK, JOHN HENRY born 1871 Birmingham Warwickshire and GEORGE JAS born 1873. They then emigrated to New Zealand1873 on the 'DOUGLAS', and had 3 other children in NZ. James Joseph 1875, Thomas Alexander 1878, and Mary Douglas 1873. Does anyone have any links to this family? Hoping to hear from someone. Trish Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 1685 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:20:52 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Lookup please WOODHALL, BLOCKLEY Staffordshire 1830- To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004401cd7b3c$9cd5bd80$0400a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Trish, At best the marriage will only give names of fathers of bride and groom. The way to go is look for the couple in 1871 census to get their birthplaces and then look for them with parents in 1851 and 1861. Peter ------------------------------ To contact the STAFFORDSHIRE list administrator, send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the STAFFORDSHIRE mailing list, send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 219 *********************************************

From Familysearch Name: Mary Ann Maria Woodhall Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Aug 1847 Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT PHILLIPS,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND Birth Date: 19 Jun 1847 Birthplace: Death Date: 07 Oct 1847 Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Samuel Woodhall Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Martha Maria Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com On 16/08/2012 03:06, Mary Paterson wrote: > Trish...There is a birth for > > Mary Ann Maria Woodhall june Q. 1847 Birmingham Warwickshire ...as she is > living there after her marriage it might be where her birth was registered > and not far from Netherton. Staffs.. Worth a look..also her brother John you > show as being born there.. > > Mary > Sydney > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trish Thomson > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:02 AM > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Lookup please WOODHALL, BLOCKLEY Staffordshire > 1830- > > Hi I am new to the list and would really appreciate any help re this family. > MARY ANN WOODHALL born 1847 Jan-March NETHERTON KINGS NORTON > Staffordshire.Married BENJAMIN BLOCKLEY Oct-Dec 1869 KINGS NORTON > Worcestershire. I would appreciate a lookup of this marriage in the hope > that it will give further details re their parents.They had 2 children in > UK, JOHN HENRY born 1871 Birmingham Warwickshire and GEORGE JAS born 1873. > They then emigrated to New Zealand1873 on the 'DOUGLAS', and had 3 other > children in NZ. James Joseph 1875, Thomas Alexander 1878, and Mary Douglas > 1873. Does anyone have any links to this family? Hoping to hear from > someone. Trish Australia > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, Would like to make contact with persons researching the family of MELLOR's from the following areas, Bradley, Brewood, Tatenhill, Barton under Needwood, Burton on Trent. At one time the were in the Parish of Donington, Shropshire and a female line went to Manchester, Lancashire. Cheers Ron

Hi Ron, I have Mellors in Derby and Sheffield if that's any help. Gill On 15 August 2012 19:20, Pam Hurley <pam@pamhurley.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Ron > > I have Mellors from Cauldon with Thomas b. 1808 moving to Derby in the > 1830s. Are they of interest? > > Best wishes, Pam. > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE > of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the > link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lilian Remember .... the 1861 census was taken over the Easter Bank Holiday weekend and families went to visit their kin at this time so ... you may find them away from home in this census. Regarding "MEDDING" family I have one link on my tree ... check out my online tree for details ... URL below. Regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org Also Webmaster of The Staffordshire BMD which can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk Also Webmaster of the Old Nortonian Society whose pages can be found at http://www.oldnortoniansociety.org.uk ======================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lilian Fowler Sent: 14 August 2012 06:52 To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brickwalls - Bassett/Meddings Hello everyone, I am once again trying to knock down a few brick walls - I gave up a few years ago as I felt that I had tried all avenues but I have decided to try my luck once more and would ask for any suggestions and help in the following 1861 - DANIEL AND CATHERINE BASSETT and their children Daniel born c1819 Carmarthenshire, Catherine c1817 Breconshire living in Abersychan, Monmouthshire 1841/1851 - think that they would still be living in that area, as their Eldest daughter Elizabeth married James Stephens in 1864 they had a son born William born c1866 Aberyschan/Pontypool. A daughter Mary also had a son James (no father given) 1866, Abersychan/Pontypool. They had other children, the youngest being Leah born 1851. 1871 census they had moved to the Stoke on Trent area, and remained there. Catherine died in 1888 and Daniel in 1895, they are buried in Hanley Cemetery. However, I can find no record of Daniel on the 1891 census. 1881 - Leah is married to William Banner and is also living in the Stoke on Trent area, as William was born in West Bromwich I have looked there in case they were visiting his relatives, but again I haven't been able to find them. 1881 JOHN AND EMMA MEDDINGS and their children - John was born Bridgnorth, Shropshire 1840 and Emma in Wolverhampton 1839 but moved to Stoke on Trent area middle/late 1870's with their older children who were all born in Wolverhampton. However, their daughter Jane born 1874 and my grandfather John Henry born 1877 were born in Stoke on Trent. I have looked in Wolverhampton in case this family were visiting relatives. I know that the Medddings name has been written in various ways - i.e., Middins/Meddin/Meadin, and probably others, I have tried all of them. I would appreciate any help at all on these queries, my thanks in advance. Best Wishes Lilian ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ron I have Mellors from Cauldon with Thomas b. 1808 moving to Derby in the 1830s. Are they of interest? Best wishes, Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of staffordshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 15 August 2012 08:01 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 218 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:02:22 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Brickwalls - Bassett/Meddings To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000c01cd79ea$c0f8ee60$0400a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Lilian, I don't mean to be rude, but you've failed to establish the basics. You should be able to at least find the marriages of both couples and then purchasing certificates should provide parents. Perhaps it's how you write it down. With over 25 years of experience I've learned to think this way. Daniel Bassett born c1819 Carmarthenshire, and Catherine .............. born c1817 Breconshire were married on ............ at ......................... Known children were Elizabeth b......... Mary b........... Leah b............... In 1841 census he was a ................ at.................. In 1851 census he was a ................ at.................. In 1861 census he was a ................ at.................. Etc, etc I'm looking for descendants / ancestors of .............. Similarly, John Meddings born 1840 Bridgnorth, Shrop and Emma ...............born 1839 in Wolverhampton were married on ............ at ......................... Known children were Jane b1874 John Henry b1877 I'm looking for deaths and .................... Looking at ages, both marriages should be on FreeBMD. I could find them, but I have a feeling you know them. Daniel & Catherine's origins may be a bit harder because of earlier dates but John & Emma should appear with parents in at least 1841 & 1851 census. You also need to make it clear if you are looking for births, deaths, ancestors or relatives. Hope this helps to get some better results. Peter ------------------------------ Hello Peter, I appreciate your reply - I possibly didn't make my details clear. I have the marriage certificate of Daniel and Catherine Bassett nee Williams and also their death certificates and where they are buried. I of course know their parents from these. I have the census records from 1841/1851/71/81 and know where they are living on those dates. 1861 for Daniel, Catherine and their children I can't find and I would like to know whether they were still in Wales at that time, I feel that they were but without proof I can't be sure. 1891 census is a mystery for me as regards to Daniel as he was alive until 1895. His youngest daughter Leah Bassett was my gt. Grandmother. I have her birth, marriage and death certificates, and again I have her burial record - however I have looked for her on the 1881 census when she was married to William Banner and have not been able to find her either in the Stoke on Trent, West Bromwich areas and even in Wales just in case they were visitors to relatives, so this is another case of really wanting to know where they were at that time. I know that most of the Bassetts were ironworkers at the Iron and Steel works locally and until they moved to Staffordshire were generations of Welsh people. William Banner was a miner. Regarding John and Emma Meddings(nee Armstrong) I have their birth, marriage and death certificates and where they are buried. I have had a bit of difficulty in locating them on the 1861 census as they didn't marry until 1862, but having looked at the 1861 differently I think that I have found them and neither of them were living with their parents at that time. It is the 1881 census again that I find frustrating as I have tried to think of different ways and ideas of looking but still no luck. Meddings as a name isn't that common and could be spelled in different ways. I have been very lucky in the sense that I am in touch with members of both families, but it appears that we are all looking at the same brick walls. Once again Peter, many thanks to you. Lilian

Sorry Steve but I forgot to mention that all of Emma's mother's siblings were baptised in St John's between 1791 and 1805. Sian

Hello Steve Thank you for emailing me. I do understand that it was a chapelry of St Peter's, Stoke at that time. However Genuki says that "The register of St John, Longton, commences in 1764." I have tried all the suggestions you made but it was a while ago, so maybe it is time to have another go. Kind regards Sian

Just been advised 1911 census available free until 21st August. http://www.ancestry.co.uk/1911Census?o_xid=52030&o_lid=52030&o_sch=Email

I have used a digital camera, hand held, for some time - years - and find almost always it is fine. Take two or three pictures of each bit to cover yourself -= if one has moved, then the other is OK. Fro REALLY important things, make notes - and or get eg a dvd made of the matter. Here, it can be done if you pay - and it then goes on line sooner than if you just waited for it to appear. Well, that was so a couple of years back for the particular records I wanted for my gg grandfather anyway. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nickie Johnson Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2012 7:02 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Digital cameras in Record Office Many thanks Sandra, Barbara and Ruth for your replies. I'll have a look at FlipPal and take in comments about knowing how to switch the flash off the camera and noisy shutters! I think rules differ between record offices - tripods allowed in some places, not in others for lack of room. Main thing is any device must not actually touch the documents. Hope my hands are steady enough to keep it really still. Thanks again Nickie ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7382 (20120813) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7382 (20120813) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

On 14/08/12 15:31, Sian MacKian wrote: > Does anyone know why the baptisms for 1810 to 1818 seem to be missing? I am > searching for EMMA CARTLIDGE/CARTLEDGE born to MARY CARTLIDGE/CARTLEDGE in > about 1817/1818 in Normacot/Furnace/Meir Heath. Mary was not married. Emma > was my second great grandmother. I know so much about her but nothing about > her baptism or birth. Please can anyone help or advise. Thank you, Sian > MacKian > ****************************** Sian - St John's wasn't a church at that time. It came later. The parish church for Longton would have been St Peters in Stoke. However, the three places you mention were not included into Longton until the late Victorian period and before that they were in "Stone area" You may want to Try St Michaels in Stone or the church in Fulford, perhaps Trentham church. Steve

Specifically relating to Staffs, using any sort of photographic equipment costs you £6.95/day or there are seasonal tickets, so unless you know that you have a couple of dozen images that you want to take, it is cheaper to pay for the fiche printouts. Oh, and if the printer decides that it has had enough at the end of the day, the nice people there will sort it out in the morning and post the page to you. Mine arrived yesterday after a printer jam on Thursday. And, if full tripods are not allowed, because of space, try looking for a Gorilla Pod (which is a massively useful bit of kit anyway, or see about a mono-pod which will give stability in at least one dimension. Cheers Steve On 13/08/2012 02:43, Ruth Burkholder wrote: > Hi ... I am in Canada and the item being used here is a FLIP-PAL ... better > than a wand as you don't need to drag anything over the document. > > As for using a digital camera, I find that a good one works without any > problem. Most new ones will have enough megapixels to do well, some have a > document setting. > > I also use my camera to take shots from the microfilm reader or computer. > > Ruth in Stouffville ON > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:15:13 +1000 > From: slewi4@optusnet.com.au > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Taking digital shots in Record Offices > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <201208110915.q7B9FDf5009928@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain > > I haven't seen any replies to this (maybe they went direct to the poster). > > I'm wondering if a portable digital scanner might be a better option - or > would they not be allowed as they make contact with the document being > scanned? > > I wanted to post a link to the style of scanner that I mean, but can't find > any web pages that aren't overtly commercial. > > For those interested, try googling "portable digital scanner" without > quotation marks, or wand scanner. You'll see what I mean. > > Sandra > >> Nickie Johnson <nickie@barnsoft.plus.com> wrote: >> >> Many thanks Margaret for your post on visiting Staffordshire RO. I was >> there in February briefly and did feel slightly like a criminal being >> checked over. Once signed in, staff very helpful. My day ended with an >> expensive parking ticket (nothing to do with the record office) after >> getting carried away at the William Salt Library. >> >> Does anyone have tips for taking good photos of documents - how far away >> from the page, lighting etc - or recommend a good article on it? I'm >> thinking of buying a new camera soon - can't decide what to go for. >> Needs to be fairly simple to operate but adequate for what's needed for >> documents. >> >> Nickie > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lilian, I don't mean to be rude, but you've failed to establish the basics. You should be able to at least find the marriages of both couples and then purchasing certificates should provide parents. Perhaps it's how you write it down. With over 25 years of experience I've learned to think this way. Daniel Bassett born c1819 Carmarthenshire, and Catherine .............. born c1817 Breconshire were married on ............ at ......................... Known children were Elizabeth b......... Mary b........... Leah b............... In 1841 census he was a ................ at.................. In 1851 census he was a ................ at.................. In 1861 census he was a ................ at.................. Etc, etc I'm looking for descendants / ancestors of .............. Similarly, John Meddings born 1840 Bridgnorth, Shrop and Emma ...............born 1839 in Wolverhampton were married on ............ at ......................... Known children were Jane b1874 John Henry b1877 I'm looking for deaths and .................... Looking at ages, both marriages should be on FreeBMD. I could find them, but I have a feeling you know them. Daniel & Catherine's origins may be a bit harder because of earlier dates but John & Emma should appear with parents in at least 1841 & 1851 census. You also need to make it clear if you are looking for births, deaths, ancestors or relatives. Hope this helps to get some better results. Peter

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sian MacKian <sianmackian@gmail.com> Date: 13 August 2012 09:06 Subject: St John's, Lane End baptisms 1810-1818 To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Does anyone know why the baptisms for 1810 to 1818 seem to be missing? I am searching for EMMA CARTLIDGE/CARTLEDGE born to MARY CARTLIDGE/CARTLEDGE in about 1817/1818 in Normacot/Furnace/Meir Heath. Mary was not married. Emma was my second great grandmother. I know so much about her but nothing about her baptism or birth. Please can anyone help or advise. Thank you, Sian MacKian

Many thanks Sandra, Barbara and Ruth for your replies. I'll have a look at FlipPal and take in comments about knowing how to switch the flash off the camera and noisy shutters! I think rules differ between record offices - tripods allowed in some places, not in others for lack of room. Main thing is any device must not actually touch the documents. Hope my hands are steady enough to keep it really still. Thanks again Nickie

Hello everyone, I am once again trying to knock down a few brick walls - I gave up a few years ago as I felt that I had tried all avenues but I have decided to try my luck once more and would ask for any suggestions and help in the following 1861 - DANIEL AND CATHERINE BASSETT and their children Daniel born c1819 Carmarthenshire, Catherine c1817 Breconshire living in Abersychan, Monmouthshire 1841/1851 - think that they would still be living in that area, as their Eldest daughter Elizabeth married James Stephens in 1864 they had a son born William born c1866 Aberyschan/Pontypool. A daughter Mary also had a son James (no father given) 1866, Abersychan/Pontypool. They had other children, the youngest being Leah born 1851. 1871 census they had moved to the Stoke on Trent area, and remained there. Catherine died in 1888 and Daniel in 1895, they are buried in Hanley Cemetery. However, I can find no record of Daniel on the 1891 census. 1881 - Leah is married to William Banner and is also living in the Stoke on Trent area, as William was born in West Bromwich I have looked there in case they were visiting his relatives, but again I haven't been able to find them. 1881 JOHN AND EMMA MEDDINGS and their children - John was born Bridgnorth, Shropshire 1840 and Emma in Wolverhampton 1839 but moved to Stoke on Trent area middle/late 1870's with their older children who were all born in Wolverhampton. However, their daughter Jane born 1874 and my grandfather John Henry born 1877 were born in Stoke on Trent. I have looked in Wolverhampton in case this family were visiting relatives. I know that the Medddings name has been written in various ways - i.e., Middins/Meddin/Meadin, and probably others, I have tried all of them. I would appreciate any help at all on these queries, my thanks in advance. Best Wishes Lilian

Flip-Pal was on sale at Who Do You Think You Are Live at Olympia in February and at the York Fair in June here in the UK. Make sure you can turn the flash off your new camera and that the shutter is not noisy (Some SLR cameras 'clonk') Barbara St Albans UK Hi ... I am in Canada and the item being used here is a FLIP-PAL ... better >than a wand as you don't need to drag anything over the document.