Meaning: Its source is a Hebrew expression meaning "Delight, pleasantness, cypress tree." Narrative: In the Bible, Tirzah is the name of a city of Israeli kings (Josh. 12:24 and 1 Kings 16:23-24) and was also the name of the first woman to inherit property from her father. Tirzah was one of the five daughters of Zelophehad who asked for and received an inheritance. In the movie Ben Hur, based on General Lew Wallace's best selling novel,Tirzah was Juda's sister.

Hi list, a few Staffs folks found under new Snelston Bastar.. records. Link below, or Google Yesterdays Journey. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thank you for that information about Thirza! -----Original Message----- From: althea.john Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:35 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] THIRZA Meaning: Its source is a Hebrew expression meaning "Delight, pleasantness, cypress tree." Narrative: In the Bible, Tirzah is the name of a city of Israeli kings (Josh. 12:24 and 1 Kings 16:23-24) and was also the name of the first woman to inherit property from her father. Tirzah was one of the five daughters of Zelophehad who asked for and received an inheritance. In the movie Ben Hur, based on General Lew Wallace's best selling novel,Tirzah was Juda's sister. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Helen, It would be nice to know her age. That is a vital clue. Also you don't give her birthplace from 1851. It's always good to check as many censuses as possible for consistency of age and birthplace. I've often seen people looking in the wrong timeframe because the relied on data from just one census. Peter

I found this Helen, don't know if it is of any interest, details at Stafford:- Collection Photocopies of sundry Waterfall parish documents and sundry Hall family documents -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LocatedAt Staffordshire Record Office Level Item DocRefNo 4211/5 Title Photocopy of agreement between various inhabitants of Waterfall to build a bridge at Sparrow Lee Date 7 Jul 1789

Barbara, Have you looked at census dates before and after marriage? You should be able to derive parents from there without the cost of a certificate. Peter

I would disagree with you regarding Thirza and Caroline not being common English names. Having transcribed 3 parish regsiters the former appears in 12 percent of the names and the latter 13 percent. Rob Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Barbara Lewis" <lewisroots@comcast.net> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:47:40 To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Peter, yes, I have checked the 1851 and 1861...in 1871 they were in Ontario in Peel County. I have a strong possibility for George, as I know he was born in Newcastle, but for Thirza, not so, as she is found as a visitor in both censuses...in Shropshire where she was born.... and I need her father's name. I just now found a record on Familysearch, showing a mother’s name for Thirza of Caroline, and she named her first daughter Caroline........then the father would be Phillip.....she shows being born in Shrewsbury so this records shows Newport, but I see they are about 9 miles apart. Both “Thirza” and “Caroline” are not common English names....so this is a very strong possibility. I am trying to connect George and Thirza to my kin, Sarah Hayes who married William Crewe from Newcastle and married in Cheshire. They emigrated to Peel County, Ontario and were close to the Cliffs who immigrated there after they were married in England. They are buried there very close to each other. A good source shows that Tirza was the niece of Sarah Hayes Crewe(Cook) and I want to know how they are related.....so I need the parents of both George and Thirza to work on that connection. I have all the Ontario records on these folks after they emigrated....death records etc....and of course, Ontario death records, at least for that period, so not show parents' names. I already had the ancestry of William Crewe and Sarah Hayes. Thank you so much for your help and any input is certainly welcome. And thank you also Linda! Barbara L. -----Original Message----- From: Peter R Booth Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:18 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Barbara, Have you looked at census dates before and after marriage? You should be able to derive parents from there without the cost of a certificate. Peter ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Many thanks for the helpful replies. Hannah gives her year of birth as about 1788 in the 1861 Census and about 1787 in the 1851 Census. She gives simply Waterfall, Staffordshire as her birthplace in 1851 and Sparrow Lee Staffordshire in 1861. Unfortunately she had died before the 1871 Census. I always thought she would have been a child of a Sparrow Lee servant but she married the tenant of Daisy Bank Farm and their daughter Eliza later went on to marry Samuel Hudson, son of the owner of Sparrow Lee which has confused me. How easy was it for a servant to bridge the social divide in the early 1800's? Helen -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter R Booth Sent: 28 August 2012 10:07 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Addresses on Parish Marriage Records (Waterfall) Helen, It would be nice to know her age. That is a vital clue. Also you don't give her birthplace from 1851. It's always good to check as many censuses as possible for consistency of age and birthplace. I've often seen people looking in the wrong timeframe because the relied on data from just one census. Peter ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thirsa, Thirsa...who calls a child Thirza.....thirz a tree over there....or is it pronounced differently? Robyn, Qld, Oz On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Barbara Lewis <lewisroots@comcast.net>wrote: > Thank you for correcting me, Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: famh1story@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:55 AM > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? > > I would disagree with you regarding Thirza and Caroline not being common > English names. Having transcribed 3 parish regsiters the former appears in > 12 percent of the names and the latter 13 percent. > > Rob > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Barbara Lewis" <lewisroots@comcast.net> > Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:47:40 > To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> > Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? > > Peter, yes, I have checked the 1851 and 1861...in 1871 they were in Ontario > in Peel County. I have a strong possibility for George, as I know he was > born in Newcastle, but for Thirza, not so, as she is found as a visitor in > both censuses...in Shropshire where she was born.... and I need her > father's > name. > > I just now found a record on Familysearch, showing a mother’s name for > Thirza of Caroline, and she named her first daughter Caroline........then > the father would be Phillip.....she shows being born in Shrewsbury so this > records shows Newport, but I see they are about 9 miles apart. Both > “Thirza” and “Caroline” are not common English names....so this is a very > strong possibility. > > I am trying to connect George and Thirza to my kin, Sarah Hayes who married > William Crewe from Newcastle and married in Cheshire. They emigrated to > Peel County, Ontario and were close to the Cliffs who immigrated there > after > they were married in England. They are buried there very close to each > other. > > A good source shows that Tirza was the niece of Sarah Hayes Crewe(Cook) and > I want to know how they are related.....so I need the parents of both > George > and Thirza to work on that connection. > > I have all the Ontario records on these folks after they > emigrated....death records etc....and of course, Ontario death records, at > least for that period, so not show parents' names. > > I already had the ancestry of William Crewe and Sarah Hayes. > > Thank you so much for your help and any input is certainly welcome. And > thank you also Linda! > Barbara L. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter R Booth > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:18 AM > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? > > Barbara, > > Have you looked at census dates before and after marriage? 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Thank you for correcting me, Rob -----Original Message----- From: famh1story@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:55 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? I would disagree with you regarding Thirza and Caroline not being common English names. Having transcribed 3 parish regsiters the former appears in 12 percent of the names and the latter 13 percent. Rob Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Barbara Lewis" <lewisroots@comcast.net> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:47:40 To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Peter, yes, I have checked the 1851 and 1861...in 1871 they were in Ontario in Peel County. I have a strong possibility for George, as I know he was born in Newcastle, but for Thirza, not so, as she is found as a visitor in both censuses...in Shropshire where she was born.... and I need her father's name. I just now found a record on Familysearch, showing a mother’s name for Thirza of Caroline, and she named her first daughter Caroline........then the father would be Phillip.....she shows being born in Shrewsbury so this records shows Newport, but I see they are about 9 miles apart. Both “Thirza” and “Caroline” are not common English names....so this is a very strong possibility. I am trying to connect George and Thirza to my kin, Sarah Hayes who married William Crewe from Newcastle and married in Cheshire. They emigrated to Peel County, Ontario and were close to the Cliffs who immigrated there after they were married in England. They are buried there very close to each other. A good source shows that Tirza was the niece of Sarah Hayes Crewe(Cook) and I want to know how they are related.....so I need the parents of both George and Thirza to work on that connection. I have all the Ontario records on these folks after they emigrated....death records etc....and of course, Ontario death records, at least for that period, so not show parents' names. I already had the ancestry of William Crewe and Sarah Hayes. Thank you so much for your help and any input is certainly welcome. And thank you also Linda! Barbara L. -----Original Message----- From: Peter R Booth Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:18 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Barbara, Have you looked at census dates before and after marriage? You should be able to derive parents from there without the cost of a certificate. Peter ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<<snipped>> If I were to travel to the Records Office is it likely that the christenings would record the address of the father of these children so that I would be better placed to know Hannah's surname? <<snipped>> As Linda indicates, occupation and residence only appear as a matter of course on baptisms from 1813. Before that, it varies, but as a general rule, on average, taking the most typical examples, having regard to the vagaries of recording... (OK - you get the idea?) I'd say that you're unlikely to get a residence or occupation on those records. My own gut feeling is that at that time most places only added residence or occupation on baptisms where there were two fathers of the same name. And not always then... (In fact, count yourself lucky to get a mother's name!) You may, however, have struck on a parish that put these on as a matter of course - you'll never know until you look. However, before you look for baptisms, I'd go looking for marriages of Thomas Barks to any Hannah in North Staffs and the adjacent area. That may require a Record Office visit or two - I've no idea of the IGI coverage in that area for marriages. That will then give you a list of plausible candidates for your Hannah - with any luck, only one of those baptisms will appear in the list of marriages to the "right" husband. The other thing you should do - and again, this will be a RO visit - is to look for burials in the area of Hannahs. It is distinctly possible that you find that one of your two Hannahs didn't survive to adulthood and, on average (again!), I find there's a good chance that young children have their parents mentioned when buried. Adrian

Peter, yes, I have checked the 1851 and 1861...in 1871 they were in Ontario in Peel County. I have a strong possibility for George, as I know he was born in Newcastle, but for Thirza, not so, as she is found as a visitor in both censuses...in Shropshire where she was born.... and I need her father's name. I just now found a record on Familysearch, showing a mother’s name for Thirza of Caroline, and she named her first daughter Caroline........then the father would be Phillip.....she shows being born in Shrewsbury so this records shows Newport, but I see they are about 9 miles apart. Both “Thirza” and “Caroline” are not common English names....so this is a very strong possibility. I am trying to connect George and Thirza to my kin, Sarah Hayes who married William Crewe from Newcastle and married in Cheshire. They emigrated to Peel County, Ontario and were close to the Cliffs who immigrated there after they were married in England. They are buried there very close to each other. A good source shows that Tirza was the niece of Sarah Hayes Crewe(Cook) and I want to know how they are related.....so I need the parents of both George and Thirza to work on that connection. I have all the Ontario records on these folks after they emigrated....death records etc....and of course, Ontario death records, at least for that period, so not show parents' names. I already had the ancestry of William Crewe and Sarah Hayes. Thank you so much for your help and any input is certainly welcome. And thank you also Linda! Barbara L. -----Original Message----- From: Peter R Booth Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:18 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Barbara, Have you looked at census dates before and after marriage? You should be able to derive parents from there without the cost of a certificate. Peter ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

After 1812 the Registers usually give Father's Occupation and some sort of Address. HTH Linda. ________________________________ From: Helen Hudson <helen@ravensden.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012, 8:05 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Addresses on Parish Marriage Records (Waterfall) I would be grateful for some advice regarding addresses. I have a "Hannah" married to a Thomas Barks in Waterfall in the 1851 Census. I haven't found a marriage but in the 1861 Census she gives her place of birth as Sparrow Lee, Waterfall, which, I believe is the name of a farm. There are two "Hannah" christenings in 1787/1788 in Waterfall. If I were to travel to the Records Office is it likely that the christenings would record the address of the father of these children so that I would be better placed to koow Hannah's surname? Thanks for any advice/clues/directIon iven. Helen ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara, a good friend found it for you here:- Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CLIFF George J TAYLOR Thirza Trent Vale, St John Stoke-On-Trent 32/01/117. Am going to the Record Office in the next couple of weeks, will look it up for you, best wishes from Linda. ________________________________ From: Barbara Lewis <lewisroots@comcast.net> To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012, 7:09 Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Linda, The quarter is Dec 1863 but no, I  don’t have the exact date..... George John Cliff and Thirza Taylor married at St. John's  Trent Vale at Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire if that is too difficult, I understand -----Original Message----- From: Lin Lamberg Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:06 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Do you have the actual date Barbara, would be too difficult searching a whole quarter?  Linda. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

66 on 1851 census as I checked Rob Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:06:37 To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Addresses on Parish Marriage Records (Waterfall) Helen, It would be nice to know her age. That is a vital clue. Also you don't give her birthplace from 1851. It's always good to check as many censuses as possible for consistency of age and birthplace. I've often seen people looking in the wrong timeframe because the relied on data from just one census. Peter ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would be grateful for some advice regarding addresses. I have a "Hannah" married to a Thomas Barks in Waterfall in the 1851 Census. I haven't found a marriage but in the 1861 Census she gives her place of birth as Sparrow Lee, Waterfall, which, I believe is the name of a farm. There are two "Hannah" christenings in 1787/1788 in Waterfall. If I were to travel to the Records Office is it likely that the christenings would record the address of the father of these children so that I would be better placed to koow Hannah's surname? Thanks for any advice/clues/directIon iven. Helen

This is wonderful......I am so grateful .... I am most anxious to know the names of any parents mentioned and their residence and of course, the actual date. Thank you so much! Barbara -----Original Message----- From: Linda Lamberg Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:12 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Hi Barbara, a good friend found it for you here:- Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference CLIFF George J TAYLOR Thirza Trent Vale, St John Stoke-On-Trent 32/01/117. Am going to the Record Office in the next couple of weeks, will look it up for you, best wishes from Linda. ________________________________ From: Barbara Lewis <lewisroots@comcast.net> To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012, 7:09 Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Linda, The quarter is Dec 1863 but no, I don’t have the exact date..... George John Cliff and Thirza Taylor married at St. John's Trent Vale at Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire if that is too difficult, I understand -----Original Message----- From: Lin Lamberg Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:06 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Going to the Staffordshire Record office? Do you have the actual date Barbara, would be too difficult searching a whole quarter? Linda. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would have been a row of terraces Rob, I have similar in my research. Linda.

Do you have the actual date Barbara, would be too difficult searching a whole quarter? Linda.

>> I am looking at the 1871 census for Bloxwich and believe the address my >> Great great grandfather was living at was Dudley Villa however this >> address >> runs for a large number of pages. Does anyone know if this was a street >> or >> something more sinister please Not a direct answer, but the area to the west of the railway station was known as Dudley Fields. It may not be a house, but what we would know as a block of flats or rented rooms. Brian