Thank you for sharing that most painful story. My husband had an older sister who lived for "a few hours" and we only know this because his parents told us. They told us there was no record of her birth and thus no record of her death. They were very poor and the undertaker took her away on his bike and buried her in a corner of another family member's grave. This whole question is also interesting because I once recall being told that a great-uncle was a twin, and had a sister but she died [at birth, I think was said]. There is no record of a birth or death and no-one else in the family in later years had heard this story. However, the 1911 census shows that my great-grandparents did have a child who had died. There are far too many births of that surname in that registration district to purchase the certificates and see if they are that child but I do wonder if my great-uncle really did have a twin. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Lill Ryan <lillsthebest@hotmail.com> To: staffordshire <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:00 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stillborn children I had a stillborn child the first born of twins born 12/11/54 they would not let me see it a boy 6lb6oz second a girl 7lb11oz both breech births. They told me my husband had to go and register the stillborn straight away did not matter about the living one as you had 6 weeks to do that he had to pay 5 pounds to register it but got no cert for it, i asked could he go to the funeral they said it would not have a grave but would be buried in some other poor persons coffin, they were born at New Cross Hospital, Wolverhampton and they could not tell us where it would be buried. We came to Australia in May 1957 in 2004 I went back to Wolverhampton to visit rellies and had started to do family history by then as my husband and mine were from around they I happen to be looking at Bushbury Cemetery registers for my aunts and uncles deaths when I came across stillborn son of Keith and Jean Spencer so I went out to the Cemetery the next day and asked if I could go and see where he was! buried they said I could go back the next day and that they would put a marker on the ground for me to see it was on a grassed area on a slight hill I then asked if I could get a cert for him and I was told only the parents were allowed to apply ( my husband had died in 1992 ) so I send for the cert. On my daughter's birth cert it only shows a single birth even though she is a twin. She went back two years ago and my cousin to her to the grave site as he had been with me when I went. I don't know why people were so callus in those days what harm would it have done to let us know. We had had the first two children and the living twin and another baby girl just 3 months old when we sailed to Australia. I did find out that they started to record stillbiths in 1928. All that heartache of worrying what had become of him so I don't think there will be any records in 1700's Jean Spencer. South Australia jeansgen@hotmail.com ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Births: 1,505 for Burslem, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1905-1906) 1,501 for Fenton, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1885-1886 & 1896-1897) 1,521 for Longton, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1915-1917) 3,552 for Stoke, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1914-1920) Replaced 11,046 for Hanley, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1837-1859) to add mother's maiden name regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

My prayers are with you. Governments and regualtions can make so many sad and miseable mistakes byt those in charge. Tony > From: lillsthebest@hotmail.com > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:00:21 +1030 > To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stillborn children > > I had a stillborn child the first born of twins born 12/11/54 they would not let me see it a boy 6lb6oz second a girl 7lb11oz both breech births. They told me my husband had to go and register the stillborn straight away did not matter about the living one as you had 6 weeks to do that he had to pay 5 pounds to register it but got no cert for it, i asked could he go to the funeral they said it would not have a grave but would be buried in some other poor persons coffin, they were born at New Cross Hospital, Wolverhampton and they could not tell us where it would be buried. We came to Australia in May 1957 in 2004 I went back to Wolverhampton to visit rellies and had started to do family history by then as my husband and mine were from around they I happen to be looking at Bushbury Cemetery registers for my aunts and uncles deaths when I came across stillborn son of Keith and Jean Spencer so I went out to the Cemetery the next day and asked if I could go and see where he was! > buried they said I could go back the next day and that they would put a marker on the ground for me to see it was on a grassed area on a slight hill I then asked if I could get a cert for him and I was told only the parents were allowed to apply ( my husband had died in 1992 ) so I send for the cert. On my daughter's birth cert it only shows a single birth even though she is a twin. She went back two years ago and my cousin to her to the grave site as he had been with me when I went. I don't know why people were so callus in those days what harm would it have done to let us know. We had had the first two children and the living twin and another baby girl just 3 months old when we sailed to Australia. I did find out that they started to record stillbiths in 1928. All that heartache of worrying what had become of him so I don't think there will be any records in 1700's > > Jean Spencer. South Australia > jeansgen@hotmail.com > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had a stillborn child the first born of twins born 12/11/54 they would not let me see it a boy 6lb6oz second a girl 7lb11oz both breech births. They told me my husband had to go and register the stillborn straight away did not matter about the living one as you had 6 weeks to do that he had to pay 5 pounds to register it but got no cert for it, i asked could he go to the funeral they said it would not have a grave but would be buried in some other poor persons coffin, they were born at New Cross Hospital, Wolverhampton and they could not tell us where it would be buried. We came to Australia in May 1957 in 2004 I went back to Wolverhampton to visit rellies and had started to do family history by then as my husband and mine were from around they I happen to be looking at Bushbury Cemetery registers for my aunts and uncles deaths when I came across stillborn son of Keith and Jean Spencer so I went out to the Cemetery the next day and asked if I could go and see where he was! buried they said I could go back the next day and that they would put a marker on the ground for me to see it was on a grassed area on a slight hill I then asked if I could get a cert for him and I was told only the parents were allowed to apply ( my husband had died in 1992 ) so I send for the cert. On my daughter's birth cert it only shows a single birth even though she is a twin. She went back two years ago and my cousin to her to the grave site as he had been with me when I went. I don't know why people were so callus in those days what harm would it have done to let us know. We had had the first two children and the living twin and another baby girl just 3 months old when we sailed to Australia. I did find out that they started to record stillbiths in 1928. All that heartache of worrying what had become of him so I don't think there will be any records in 1700's Jean Spencer. South Australia jeansgen@hotmail.com

Hi Sylvia There is an interesting article on this subject in the November issue of Family Tree magazine. It confirms the date of 1927 for England & Wales, 1939 for Scotland and 1995 for Republic of Ireland. If you cannot get a copy I can scan and email it to you. Frank On 5 November 2012 18:02, <sylvia@gothamfamily.co.uk> wrote: > > Thank you to Steve, Dawn and Ian for the information about stillborn > babies,it makes sense we have not found any trace of Colin Edward Aston > GOTHAM. > > I will be interested to hear Steve if the registrars give you any further > information about stillborn babies. > > Sylvia > > Snip : I'm going the registrars tomorrow so will ask what the full story is > on children who are stillborn. > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE > of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the > link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you to Steve, Dawn and Ian for the information about stillborn babies,it makes sense we have not found any trace of Colin Edward Aston GOTHAM. I will be interested to hear Steve if the registrars give you any further information about stillborn babies. Sylvia Snip : I'm going the registrars tomorrow so will ask what the full story is on children who are stillborn.

My grandmother's sister died young - family story ways breech birth, death cert says postpartum haemorrhage. Huddersfield region it was. 1918. Not a trace of the infant exists - birth, bapt, death, burial. Checked them all! I have been told it was not a legal requirement to so register the child till about 1920 something - 1927 comes to mind but I am not sure. I doubt you will find anything at all, nearly 50 years earlier. My best guess re Granma's sister Lizzie is the infant is in the same grave as Mum - but we cannot be sure. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sylvia@gothamfamily.co.uk Sent: Monday, 5 November 2012 7:42 AM To: Staffordshire mailing list enquiry Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Gotham and stillborn child I am wondering if there are likely to be any records of a stillborn child? My sister and have a Colin Edward Aston GOTHAM born 3 August 1873 in our family tree - the information was given to us by a family member no longer living. However, we have been unable to find any trace of a birth, baptism or death and I am now wondering if he was stillborn. Sylvia ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7658 (20121104) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7658 (20121104) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7658 (20121104) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Stillbirths have been registered only since 1927, and are not included in the indexes for reasons of sensitivity. Certificates can be ordered through the GRO on a special form, by immediate family only. I have - very rarely - seen a note of burial of a stillborn child in a parish register. Ian On 04/11/12 20:42, sylvia@gothamfamily.co.uk wrote: >> I am wondering if there are likely to be any records of a stillborn child? >> >> >

On 04/11/12 20:42, sylvia@gothamfamily.co.uk wrote: > I am wondering if there are likely to be any records of a stillborn child? > > My sister and have a Colin Edward Aston GOTHAM born 3 August 1873 in our > family tree - the information was given to us by a family member no longer > living. However, we have been unable to find any trace of a birth, baptism > or death and I am now wondering if he was stillborn. > > Sylvia > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sylvia - According to the registrars that I transcribe at, the normal "Birth Registers" only record those children that took a breath . If the child showed no signs of life then they are not entered into the birth register. I'm going the registrars tomorrow so will ask what the full story is on children who are stillborn. Steve

I am wondering if there are likely to be any records of a stillborn child? My sister and have a Colin Edward Aston GOTHAM born 3 August 1873 in our family tree - the information was given to us by a family member no longer living. However, we have been unable to find any trace of a birth, baptism or death and I am now wondering if he was stillborn. Sylvia

Hi Sandra After several years of dithering I finally joined the GOONS last year - IMHO it's well worth it for the help and expertise available in the Guild. I've not had many contacts through them - but that's because I have had my own web site (and blog) for a while - that's the best way of getting folks to find you. If you don't have the expertise to do your own stuff, the Guild profile is an excellent place to start, and one study I know of uses the profile as their main site. It is also already known to the search engines so Google etc can easily find your stuff. But it's just as easy to go your own way if you don't want to join. At 11:44 30/10/2012, you wrote: >How do I let people know it's there? If you want people to know about it, then you have to make available some thing to tell them that it's there - so you'll have to publish something on the web, somehow, somewhere! >I don't want to publish it on the net - not because it's "mine" but because I would like feedback. You never know who may be out there with the missing link! I don't understand you here. How can you get feedback if you don't publish? Please could you explain why you don't want to publish on the web? >Also I would like to comment on the parts that people may be interested in and also make the point that I have nearly 1300 names that are connected by marriage. You obviously have a lot of information and it would be welcomed by most researchers. How many Bevingtons etc. do you have? As a recent poster said, there are many ways of publishing on the web. Not all cost. Not all require you to learn HTML. There are pros and cons to most! Take a look at the web sites of GOONS members - you'll see a huge variety of hosts and publishing software. Beware though of just posting some brief details and your contact address - spam gets everywhere these days. I am grateful to GoogleMail and Wordpress for their spam filtering, which seem to get about 99% of it. IMHO you should always use a contact form which does some filtering and doesn't show your actual address. I do know of a site (not the GOONS) which does publicise One Name Studies - but it was only for Yorkshire! And it wasn't kept up-to-date. Best Wishes, Andy PS I've still got Bebbingtons in my tree - we had contact some years back! PPS I have Ron Bebbington's email address if you can't get through or don't get a response on the GOONS address, although I don't know how active he is these days.

Sandra wrote, Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:44:25 -0400 > I am doing a study of the Bevington / Beavington > name and have quite a list! > How do I let people know it's there? > I don't want to publish it on the net - Your choice. Personally, I'm delighted to spread what I have round - I won't be able to take it with me ! > not because it's "mine" > but because I would like feedback. I have a number of WebSites at www.spanglefish.com - they are entirely free to me, but the punters have to "pay" by seeing ads ;-) You could simply put up a list of names, just by themselves. Google will find the list, and so punters can, and then they can contact you for more info. Or perhaps give the dates of birth & death for each name. Personally, it would annoy the hell out of me.... I have a distant cousin who has done a lot of work on her branch. Some years ago I sent her a printout from my (antique) FHS program, done on my (antique) dot-matrix printer, giving all the information that I had on her branch. Her response was along the lines of, "If you would be prepared to improve the presentation, then I would be prepared to share with you the fruits of my research." Pah ! I'm not really THAT interested in her remote branch (I've got PLENTY of closer branches to research), so I haven't discussed genealogy with her since....

Thanks to all who replied.... Lots for me to think about! Regards Sandra

Hi, I used to work with a George (?) HUDSWELL at Harwell atomic research station in Berkshire in the early 1950s. He would be about 40-50 then I guess. He may have been a Yorkshire man. Eric Millward

Hi Sandra and Pamela I do the Fernyhough and variants one name study and have been a member of the Guild of One Name Studies for a long time. Ronald Bebbington has registered Bevington as one of his variants. It would be interesting for you to discuss with him why he thinks Bevington is a variant. Go to the Guild site at: www.one-name.org and type Bevington into the "is your surname registered" box. That will give you his email address. I note that he does not have a Profile page, which is where you explain your study, its derivation, distribution, origins or anything else that interests you. I have had many contacts through mine. Barbara brought up near Burton on Trent, but now living in St Albans, UK At 12:06 30/10/2012, Pamela wrote: >I also do a 'one name' study of my maiden name of Hudgill Sandra wrote: >I wonder if anyone has any advice please? >I am doing a study of the Bevington / Beavington name and have quite a list! >How do I let people know it's there?

Hiya Sandra, I also do a 'one name' study of my maiden name of Hudgill I do have a website www.hudgill.com but try to make it a taster or teaser for people with the Hudgell or Hudgill name to contact me, which they do, not only in the UK but Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, the name has spread worldwide from our earliest ancestor of George Hudswell. But I find people are eager to swop and exchange information, also I have 100's of birth marriage and death certificates which people have sent me over the years. The best thing is they also send me old photos as well as new ones which helps me too because I want to know more about the Hudgells and put some meat on the bones, I am not just studying the name its the people as well. Its surprising how often I get a 'brick wall' broken down just my an odd bit of information someone gives me, and when there is a birth of a new little twig then they let me know that, it keeps my own database up to date. I have tried to list the names and details of the Hudgell family but tried to make it so someone can't just look and copy it all, each name has to be followed back and back, so not just as easy as copy and paste into there family history software. There are fore and against putting it on the internet and I definitely wouldn't spare all I have with someone who then goes and posts in on one of the one line trees, this study has taken me 20 years or more so I do understand your caution. Other than that I also have a very small group on face book - well actually its only me and my sister ;o)) but anyone with the name can join there and exchange info. I am also a member of the Guild of One Name Studies but its not necessary and you could carry on on your own. But I would also be interested in what others think. Pam born and bought up in Stoke on Trent but most of my research is in Epping Essex where by dad was born www.hudgill.com -----Original Message----- From: sandra.bev@talktalk.net Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 11:44 AM To: staffordshire-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] One name study - advice Hi to all, I wonder if anyone has any advice please? I am doing a study of the Bevington / Beavington name and have quite a list! How do I let people know it's there? I don't want to publish it on the net - not because it's "mine" but because I would like feedback. You never know who may be out there with the missing link! Also I would like to comment on the parts that people may be interested in and also make the point that I have nearly 1300 names that are connected by marriage. Any thoughts anyone.....? or even anyone want to contribute! Regards Sandra ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you considered joing The Guild of One name studies Rob Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: sandra.bev@talktalk.net Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:44:25 To: <staffordshire-L@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] One name study - advice Hi to all, I wonder if anyone has any advice please? I am doing a study of the Bevington / Beavington name and have quite a list! How do I let people know it's there? I don't want to publish it on the net - not because it's "mine" but because I would like feedback. You never know who may be out there with the missing link! Also I would like to comment on the parts that people may be interested in and also make the point that I have nearly 1300 names that are connected by marriage. Any thoughts anyone.....? or even anyone want to contribute! Regards Sandra ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to all, I wonder if anyone has any advice please? I am doing a study of the Bevington / Beavington name and have quite a list! How do I let people know it's there? I don't want to publish it on the net - not because it's "mine" but because I would like feedback. You never know who may be out there with the missing link! Also I would like to comment on the parts that people may be interested in and also make the point that I have nearly 1300 names that are connected by marriage. Any thoughts anyone.....? or even anyone want to contribute! Regards Sandra

Hi All The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Births: Replaced 498 for Longton, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1877-1878) to add mother's maiden name Marriages: Replaced 13,902 for Civil Marriage (Wolstanton), registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1838-1922) for corrections and expand second names. Regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk

Rob What you need to understand is that GRO indexes are compiled from LOCAL Registrars Indexes sent to the GRO every quarter. LOCAL Registrars Indexes are the PRIMARY source info. Many GRO entries are incorrect due to errors made during transcription and sometimes some entries in the Local Registers have been missed off the GRO Indexes altogether. ALSO ... Sometimes the LOCAL Registrars indexes can be incorrect due to transcription errors or even missed off completely. I know that when we compiled the LEEK Registrars Index (www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk ) for the UKBMD Project ( www.ukbmd.org.uk ) 48 "JOHNSON" entries had been missed off the Local Registrars Indexes completely .... Hope this helps ! Regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org Also Webmaster of The Staffordshire BMD which can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk Also Webmaster of the Old Nortonian Society whose pages can be found at http://www.oldnortoniansociety.org.uk ======================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of famh1story@aol.com Sent: 26 October 2012 10:57 To: mjflists@yahoo.co.uk; staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] BMD why can't I find a match Mike, That's an interesting development but surely if we can't find them in the GRO indexes they won't? They should however have their own indexes which we are legally entitled to go in and view with an appointment Rob Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Mike in Droitwich <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:24:54 To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: mjflists@yahoo.co.uk, staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] BMD why can't I find a match Hi Sandra Why not contact Birmingham Register Office who hold the registers for Kings Norton RD. They have a resident genealogist to make sure people get the correct certificate and have phoned me up to ask if I had any additional information. He also comes out and gives talk on his job and register office procedures in general. Phone and ask if they have a marriage for Henry Bevington in Sep Q 1895 as you can't find a wife or any other entries on the GRO page 6c 632a. (he says they use freeBMD etc. to aid them in their searches http://tinyurl.com/65uhacf ) Mike Fisher in Droitwich my family tree http://mjfisher.tribalpages.com On 26/10/2012 09:08, sandra.bev@talktalk.net wrote: > > > Thanks for your reply Peter, > I have done all of this - I'm doing a one name study and have covered just about everything already. I wonder if he was actually Henry Bevington or Babington Bebbington etc. > I have a database of names associated with Bevington and usually if I can find the spouse name I can track down the Bevington. > > Thanks anyway... > > Regards > Sandra ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message