Hello Lin, It was not a house fire but a burglary, Edmund was given 6 months hard labour...I would love to know why the 4 of them were in the house, the court papers do not say, but the women were not charged, Diane's son Matthew was a very serious burglar, he waited until the miners went to work early in the morning & while the wives were asleep he went in & took what he wanted..very nice fellow Joseph said that Edmund was his father, they carried a very nice photo of him, named their children after him so I decided to do DNA on the family, mostly to see if Richard Marklew who was the father of Richard Southall, eldest son of Ann Southall, was not Joseph's father as that would have meant that Joseph married his half sister, he married Harriett Marklew the daughter of Richard Marklew the Brickmaker & Caroline Brindley, I have Bastardy papers for Richard. I was fortunate as Joseph's DNA was matching the Aldridge males that had tested for DNA. I also tested the Marklew males. I have used DNA quite a bit in my research, mostly for my Irish family. I find males from where my family come from & approach them to test with my males, I pay for them to take this test. Have had no problem to date & have been doing it for many years now. I have also checked all of the marriages for Ann's sisters & found that Edmund Aldridge was a witness to one of her sisters marriage. Interesting Ann signed her name as Ann Southall when her eldest son Richard Southall married, even though she was married at that time...I have checked original signatures also. Joseph Southall was a most interesting man, he wrote poetry, was a writer to the papers & on many committees. His mother Ann ran a Dame School. She certainly educated him well. My favourite of his poems was one he wrote about the Hednesford church, the minister & the wealthy parishioners. Any suggestions always welcome. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lin Lamberg Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 12:28 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family Robyn, where and when did this house fire take place? Are you sure that Joseph born 1826 was the son of Edmund Aldridge, being as his mother Married Edmund so many years later? ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Sue, I have been in touch with you before when you helped me with another by the name of Ann Winter, she turned out to be Ann Southall, the certificates were not correct as does happen when you have illegitimate births. Mary Winter & Joseph Aldridge did have their earlier children baptised at Stonnall. I have to get hold of the parish films to look further at the Winter family, which I will do. What did the family do? Were they farmers at some time?. I have a very good photo of Edmund Aldridge son of Joseph Aldridge & Mary Winter. Do you have any photos of the Winter family? Robyn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 2:27 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family Hello Robyn, Do you have any further information on the family of Mary WINTER? One of my maternal 4 x gt. grandmothers was a Joyce WINTERS (b c 1760. Died 1811) She had a sister Mary born 1762. My WINTER(S) family seem to originate from Stapenhill, DBY before moving to Stonnall between 1766 and 1770. I lose track of Mary after the baptism of her illgt child at Shenstone in 1781. This baptism records that the child was born in Stonnall. As Whittington and Stonnall are not too far distant from each other I wondered if there was any connection? Regards Sue Lote nee DERRY -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LESLIE WRIGHT Sent: 20 January 2013 13:25 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family Hello List, I have a Joseph Aldridge who married Mary Winter St Matthew Walsall 3.1.1786. Is there any one also researching this couple or could tell me anything of the Aldridge family. One of their younger sons Edmond married my ancestor Ann Southall. This marriage took place at Whittington a few years after their son Joseph was born 1826. Joseph kept his mother's name. Edmond had more children after his wife died to a Diane Harris. Edmond also did 6 months hard labour after he & Diane her daughter & her son Matthew Preston were caught in the house of Richard Southall. Richard was the eldest son of his first wife Ann Southall. Matthew Preston was a very hardened criminal & did many years in jail. There must have been an interesting tale behind why the 4 of them were in this house of Richard Southall, the court records do not reveal anything to me unfortunately. The women were spared any charges laid against them, again interesting & why!! I actually have a photo of Edmond as a young man. If anyone can shed some light on the Aldridge family I would be most grateful. Regards, Robyn ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ok Robyn - from what you say there does seem to be a link between us. If I am correct my Joyce WINTER(S) and your Mary WINTER are the 3rd & 4th children of Joseph WINTERS and Joice ? (possibly HANSON). As I said yesterday Joseph 'appears' to have originated in Stapenhill (I have a possible baptism for him of 6 June 1730 at Stapenhill, son of Joseph and Marie WINTERS) but moved to Stonnall before 1770 when the remainder of his and Joice's children were born. ie Thomas 1770-1845 Stonnall, William 1771-1836 Stonnall, Charles 1777, and Sarah 1777. (I am assuming Charles baptism was probably a late one). The other children I have are: James b?, Samuel b?-buried 1807 Stonnall, (then Joyce c1760 and Mary 11 December 1762 Stapenhill), Ann 1764-1832 Stonnall, and there is possibly another daughter called Jane born c1766. Of these children William born 1771 seems to have been the most successful, being a farmer. I have no record of what occupation Joseph was employed in, but as Stonnall is still a farming community he almost certainly was employed upon the land. Joseph died in 1797 and is buried at St John, Shenstone and Joice died in 1813 and is buried at St Peter, Stonnall. I will have a scout through the records I have here and see if I can find any further information for you regarding the ALDRIDGE/WINTER connection. PS: my Joyce WINTERS (1760-1811) married my maternal 4xgt.grandfather William GLOVER 1782 at St Peter, Wolverhampton, but they actually lived in the Pelsall/Walsall Wood area settling at Shaver's End, Shelfield. Regards Sue LOTE nee DERRY -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LESLIE WRIGHT Sent: 21 January 2013 02:56 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family the certificates Hello Sue, I have been in touch with you before when you helped me with another by the name of Ann Winter, she turned out to be Ann Southall, the certificates were not correct as does happen when you have illegitimate births. Mary Winter & Joseph Aldridge did have their earlier children baptised at Stonnall. I have to get hold of the parish films to look further at the Winter family, which I will do. What did the family do? Were they farmers at some time?. I have a very good photo of Edmund Aldridge son of Joseph Aldridge & Mary Winter. Do you have any photos of the Winter family? Robyn -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013 2:27 AM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family Hello Robyn, Do you have any further information on the family of Mary WINTER? One of my maternal 4 x gt. grandmothers was a Joyce WINTERS (b c 1760. Died 1811) She had a sister Mary born 1762. My WINTER(S) family seem to originate from Stapenhill, DBY before moving to Stonnall between 1766 and 1770. I lose track of Mary after the baptism of her illgt child at Shenstone in 1781. This baptism records that the child was born in Stonnall. As Whittington and Stonnall are not too far distant from each other I wondered if there was any connection? Regards Sue Lote nee DERRY -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LESLIE WRIGHT Sent: 20 January 2013 13:25 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family Hello List, I have a Joseph Aldridge who married Mary Winter St Matthew Walsall 3.1.1786. Is there any one also researching this couple or could tell me anything of the Aldridge family. One of their younger sons Edmond married my ancestor Ann Southall. This marriage took place at Whittington a few years after their son Joseph was born 1826. Joseph kept his mother's name. Edmond had more children after his wife died to a Diane Harris. Edmond also did 6 months hard labour after he & Diane her daughter & her son Matthew Preston were caught in the house of Richard Southall. Richard was the eldest son of his first wife Ann Southall. Matthew Preston was a very hardened criminal & did many years in jail. There must have been an interesting tale behind why the 4 of them were in this house of Richard Southall, the court records do not reveal anything to me unfortunately. The women were spared any charges laid against them, again interesting & why!! I actually have a photo of Edmond as a young man. If anyone can shed some light on the Aldridge family I would be most grateful. Regards, Robyn ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. 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Remember the ages 9n 1841 census were not exact but rounded for all above the age of 15 I think. Mind you, some "real" ages were in there, as the census taker ignored or maybe did not understand or explain well enough to the families.. so, 34 became 30 as an age, 35 was right, 36 came 35 and so on. Round down to the nearest five years, was the rule. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) In your case, if it is the family you want, I would look for a child aged five in this family.. probably died by the time the census was taken or just maybe with grandma.. I don't think they knew then much about birth control and probably the man would not care either! Sort of gap there from the regular reproduction otherwise. Or Dad in prison or such, of course... -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Booth Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2013 11:26 PM To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Cc: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] GEORGE HUMPHREYS/HUMPHRIES AND LEAH BASSETT Hello Lilian, The only earlier census record I can find in Shropshire or Staffordshire with a father Thomas and sons William, John & George all together is this 1841 census in Shrewsbury, Shropshire: HO107/927/10, folio 10, page 12 St Michael's Street, Shrewsbury Thomas HUMPHREYS 35 Works at Factory Ann do 30 Thomas do 13 William do 11 John do 9 James do 7 Richard do 3 George do 6 months All born in the county except Ann. The ages are slightly out but then the ages of your George, William & John do seem to vary in the latter census records. However, I then seem to lose this family in subsequent census records until your William, John and George, who may be the children, turn up in Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire. William's birthplace also varies: in the 1861 of Hanley, it is shown as either the parish of Tedingham or Ledingham, Shropshire neither of which I can find and in the 1881 census it looks like Bronington V, Salop. I have found a Bronington, Salop on my atlas which is shown as about 7 miles SW of Whitchurch on the A495, so Whitchurch or nearby does seem to be relevant to William & John at least. Whitchurch also includes a hamlet of Dodington, so I wonder if perhaps the enumerator misheard William's place of birth in the 1861 census. I have found a George HUMPHREYS born c1836 in the 1861 census of Sheffield, Yorkshire (RG9/3489, folio 7, page 9) who is unmarried, a Draper's Assistant, born Sandford Shropshire (which is near Whitchurch) who could perhaps be your George. Not too sure that this helps much, except to reinforce Whitchurch as a possible starting point in your quest for the birthplaces of your family. Janet Hello - I am trying to find George Humphreys on census records 1841/51 and 61. He was born in Shropshire c1840 - He is recorded on 1871 census living with his brother William and family at 21 Swan Street, Stoke on Trent and his brother John and his family are recorded as living Alcocks Court, Bagnall Square, Hanley, George died 1875 at Cottage Square, Tinkersclough, Shelton Stoke on Trent AGED 35yrs and the informant was his sister in law Ellen (john's widow as John died in 1873.) His father was Thomas - This is recorded on William and John's Marriage Certificates. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7913 (20130120) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7913 (20130120) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 7913 (20130120) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hello List, I have a Joseph Aldridge who married Mary Winter St Matthew Walsall 3.1.1786. Is there any one also researching this couple or could tell me anything of the Aldridge family. One of their younger sons Edmond married my ancestor Ann Southall. This marriage took place at Whittington a few years after their son Joseph was born 1826. Joseph kept his mother's name. Edmond had more children after his wife died to a Diane Harris. Edmond also did 6 months hard labour after he & Diane her daughter & her son Matthew Preston were caught in the house of Richard Southall. Richard was the eldest son of his first wife Ann Southall. Matthew Preston was a very hardened criminal & did many years in jail. There must have been an interesting tale behind why the 4 of them were in this house of Richard Southall, the court records do not reveal anything to me unfortunately. The women were spared any charges laid against them, again interesting & why!! I actually have a photo of Edmond as a young man. If anyone can shed some light on the Aldridge family I would be most grateful. Regards, Robyn

Hi Lilian, Couldn't see a mariage but this is George's record: birth: 01 Jun 1839 christening: 04 Aug 1839 St. Mary,​ Kingswinford,​ Stafford,​ England residence: 1839 Kingswinford,​ Stafford,​ England You could try the free BMDs from Rootsweb to see if there is a marriage for the parents. Cheers, Irene. > Lilian Fowler <lilian.fowler@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Hello - I am trying to find George Humphreys on census records 1841/51 > and 61. He was born in Shropshire c1840 - He is recorded on 1871 census > living with his brother William and family at 21 Swan Street, Stoke on > Trent and his brother John and his family are recorded as living Alcocks > Court, Bagnall Square, Hanley, George died 1875 at Cottage Square, > Tinkersclough, Shelton Stoke on Trent AGED 35yrs and the informant was > his sister in law Ellen (john's widow as John died in 1873.) > > His father was Thomas - This is recorded on William and John's Marriage > Certificates. > > He had 2 children George BASSETT HUMPHREYS 1872 and Elizabeth BASSETT > HUMPHREYS 1874, both of whom were born in Tinkersclough, I have their > birth certificates and baptismal records. There doesn't seem to be a > record of his and Leah's marriage as when she did marry a few years > later she is recorded as a Spinster. I wonder whether he was already > married but had left his wife. > > When his children married they decided to use their mothers name of > Bassett. snip

Hello everyone, I made a mistake on my previous request - John Humphreys and his family are on 1861 census living at Alcocks Court, Bagnall Square Hanley, Stoke on Trent and not the 1871. I can't find them on that one anywhere. Regards Lilian

Hello Robyn, Do you have any further information on the family of Mary WINTER? One of my maternal 4 x gt. grandmothers was a Joyce WINTERS (b c 1760. Died 1811) She had a sister Mary born 1762. My WINTER(S) family seem to originate from Stapenhill, DBY before moving to Stonnall between 1766 and 1770. I lose track of Mary after the baptism of her illgt child at Shenstone in 1781. This baptism records that the child was born in Stonnall. As Whittington and Stonnall are not too far distant from each other I wondered if there was any connection? Regards Sue Lote nee DERRY -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LESLIE WRIGHT Sent: 20 January 2013 13:25 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Aldridge family Hello List, I have a Joseph Aldridge who married Mary Winter St Matthew Walsall 3.1.1786. Is there any one also researching this couple or could tell me anything of the Aldridge family. One of their younger sons Edmond married my ancestor Ann Southall. This marriage took place at Whittington a few years after their son Joseph was born 1826. Joseph kept his mother's name. Edmond had more children after his wife died to a Diane Harris. Edmond also did 6 months hard labour after he & Diane her daughter & her son Matthew Preston were caught in the house of Richard Southall. Richard was the eldest son of his first wife Ann Southall. Matthew Preston was a very hardened criminal & did many years in jail. There must have been an interesting tale behind why the 4 of them were in this house of Richard Southall, the court records do not reveal anything to me unfortunately. The women were spared any charges laid against them, again interesting & why!! I actually have a photo of Edmond as a young man. If anyone can shed some light on the Aldridge family I would be most grateful. Regards, Robyn ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the Old Swinford Parish Register and Settlements, the surname Humphrey apparently derived from Humfray and Homfray, there are a few Humfray and Homfray's going back to the 1600's. Linda.

Robyn, where and when did this house fire take place? Are you sure that Joseph born 1826 was the son of Edmund Aldridge, being as his mother Married Edmund so many years later?

Hello Lilian, The only earlier census record I can find in Shropshire or Staffordshire with a father Thomas and sons William, John & George all together is this 1841 census in Shrewsbury, Shropshire: HO107/927/10, folio 10, page 12 St Michael's Street, Shrewsbury Thomas HUMPHREYS 35 Works at Factory Ann do 30 Thomas do 13 William do 11 John do 9 James do 7 Richard do 3 George do 6 months All born in the county except Ann. The ages are slightly out but then the ages of your George, William & John do seem to vary in the latter census records. However, I then seem to lose this family in subsequent census records until your William, John and George, who may be the children, turn up in Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire. William's birthplace also varies: in the 1861 of Hanley, it is shown as either the parish of Tedingham or Ledingham, Shropshire neither of which I can find and in the 1881 census it looks like Bronington V, Salop. I have found a Bronington, Salop on my atlas which is shown as about 7 miles SW of Whitchurch on the A495, so Whitchurch or nearby does seem to be relevant to William & John at least. Whitchurch also includes a hamlet of Dodington, so I wonder if perhaps the enumerator misheard William's place of birth in the 1861 census. I have found a George HUMPHREYS born c1836 in the 1861 census of Sheffield, Yorkshire (RG9/3489, folio 7, page 9) who is unmarried, a Draper's Assistant, born Sandford Shropshire (which is near Whitchurch) who could perhaps be your George. Not too sure that this helps much, except to reinforce Whitchurch as a possible starting point in your quest for the birthplaces of your family. Janet Hello - I am trying to find George Humphreys on census records 1841/51 and 61. He was born in Shropshire c1840 - He is recorded on 1871 census living with his brother William and family at 21 Swan Street, Stoke on Trent and his brother John and his family are recorded as living Alcocks Court, Bagnall Square, Hanley, George died 1875 at Cottage Square, Tinkersclough, Shelton Stoke on Trent AGED 35yrs and the informant was his sister in law Ellen (john's widow as John died in 1873.) His father was Thomas - This is recorded on William and John's Marriage Certificates.

Lilian For parts of Shropshire in 1841, the border had been adjusted and were listed as Worcestershire and Staffordshire. i.e. in rough line from Halesowen to Kinver. I found this entry in 1841, which could be your George. HUMPHREY, Thomas M 20 1821 Staffordshire HUMPHREY, Caroline F 20 1821 Staffordshire HUMPHREY, George M 1 1 Staffordshire STINSON, Benjamin M 20 1821 born Staffordshire Address; Brettell Lane, Kingswinford Ref HO107/ 996 Book/Folio 8/37 Page 3 Kingswinford was in the Stourbridge Registration District. Note: In 1841 census ages were rounded down by 5yrs. In 1851 they were HUMPHRIES, Thomas Head Married M 32 1819 Pudler Iron Works Kingswinford, Staffordshire HUMPHRIES, Caroline Wife Married F 35 1816 Hopton, Shropshire HUMPHRIES, George Son M 11 1840 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire HUMPHRIES, Sarah Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire HUMPHRIES, John Son M 6 1845 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire HUMPHRIES, Hannah T Daughter F0 (3W) 1851 born Kingswinford, Staffordshire Piece: HO107/2036 Folio:259 Page: 33 Registration District: Stourbridge Union Turnpike Road, Kingswinford In 1861 the family are at Brettle Lane, Kingswinford ( minus Sarah and Hannah ) but including Jane aged 9yrs born 1852 Ref RG09/2072 Folio 58 Page 39 I did not have success in 1881 Census. hth Helen Downunder Hello - I am trying to find George Humphreys on census records 1841/51 and 61. He was born in Shropshire c1840 - He is recorded on 1871 census living with his brother William and family at 21 Swan Street, Stoke on Trent and his brother John and his family are recorded as living Alcocks Court, Bagnall Square, Hanley, George died 1875 at Cottage Square, Tinkersclough, Shelton Stoke on Trent AGED 35yrs and the informant was his sister in law Ellen (john's widow as John died in 1873.) His father was Thomas - This is recorded on William and John's Marriage Certificates. He had 2 children George BASSETT HUMPHREYS 1872 and Elizabeth BASSETT HUMPHREYS 1874, both of whom were born in Tinkersclough, I have their birth certificates and baptismal records. There doesn't seem to be a record of his and Leah's marriage as when she did marry a few years later she is recorded as a Spinster. I wonder whether he was already married but had left his wife. When his children married they decided to use their mothers name of Bassett. I cannot find any record on the 1881 census of the family, which by then included Leah her married name was Banner and had two more children named William and Samuel BANNER. I have tried lateral thinking to knock the various brickwalls down, this is how I found George and his brothers as I had very little to go on. John by the way was recorded on 1871 as born in Whitchurch, but William and George are just given as Shropshire. William is on the 1881 census but it is not clear which area of Shropshire is his place of birth. I don't think that I have left out any information that I have, so I would be most grateful for any suggestions as to where I can go. I have also posted this to Shropshire, so hope that it is OK to do this. Thank you - Best Wishes Lilian Stoke on Trent ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 331 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

Hello - I am trying to find George Humphreys on census records 1841/51 and 61. He was born in Shropshire c1840 - He is recorded on 1871 census living with his brother William and family at 21 Swan Street, Stoke on Trent and his brother John and his family are recorded as living Alcocks Court, Bagnall Square, Hanley, George died 1875 at Cottage Square, Tinkersclough, Shelton Stoke on Trent AGED 35yrs and the informant was his sister in law Ellen (john's widow as John died in 1873.) His father was Thomas - This is recorded on William and John's Marriage Certificates. He had 2 children George BASSETT HUMPHREYS 1872 and Elizabeth BASSETT HUMPHREYS 1874, both of whom were born in Tinkersclough, I have their birth certificates and baptismal records. There doesn't seem to be a record of his and Leah's marriage as when she did marry a few years later she is recorded as a Spinster. I wonder whether he was already married but had left his wife. When his children married they decided to use their mothers name of Bassett. I cannot find any record on the 1881 census of the family, which by then included Leah her married name was Banner and had two more children named William and Samuel BANNER. I have tried lateral thinking to knock the various brickwalls down, this is how I found George and his brothers as I had very little to go on. John by the way was recorded on 1871 as born in Whitchurch, but William and George are just given as Shropshire. William is on the 1881 census but it is not clear which area of Shropshire is his place of birth. I don't think that I have left out any information that I have, so I would be most grateful for any suggestions as to where I can go. I have also posted this to Shropshire, so hope that it is OK to do this. Thank you - Best Wishes Lilian Stoke on Trent

Hi All, Researching Findler/Findlow  family from Staffordshire.  Also looking for John Bennett who married Hannah Findler 1836 Stoke Parish Church and I think died before 10 September 1845 according to a document I have. Also have a will of William Findlow died 9th april 1844 will dated 30th October 1834.  Living Stanley Endon Staffordshire Children Isaac Findlow John Findlow Alice Chadwick Mary Cope Hannah Findlow Martha Read  (Reade) Jane Kent    Also related to Isaac Findler in Cheddlton Denise

Hi All Sorry I meant the Silken Strand St Edward Street Leek Staffordshire   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Denise <cinderhill971@btinternet.com> To: "staffordshire@rootsweb.com" <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013, 9:29 Subject: Heath gathering Hi all, Re ;posted A Heath gathering to be held on the 4th May 2013 Silken Skein St Edward Street Leek Staffordshire Starting from 10 o'clock. Denise

Are these anything to do with your Heaths? xxx On 15 January 2013 09:29, Denise <cinderhill971@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Re ;posted > A Heath gathering to be held on the 4th May 2013 > Silken Skein > St Edward Street > Leek > Staffordshire > Starting from 10 o'clock. > > Denise > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE > of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the > link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, Re ;posted A Heath gathering to be held on the 4th May 2013 Silken Skein St Edward Street Leek Staffordshire Starting from 10 o'clock.   Denise

Hello list, Some years ago I had such a lot of help from a lady called Renee Smith in America but I haven't had any response to emails for some years. I am hoping that this is because she has changed her email address. I think I have finally made a breakthrough on the brick wall that was John Bould of Waterfall's line and I would like to run it past Renee and also, if I'm right I would very much like to share it with her. Anyone able to help, please? Regards, Helen

Many thanks Linda, looks as if I need to check my facts! Greg 

Hi Greg, sorry searched the St Mary Fiche and could not find your Thomas Brookes Marriage?? You can email Stafford Archives, give them the names and date, they may be able to find it, for about £3.00 they post you a print out from the Register. Sorry, did my best, regards from Linda.