<<snipped>> Are pre-1813 baptisms and marriages at Stone St. Michael available anywhere online? According to this list http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/VRI2.html the baptisms and marriages back to 1567/8 were included on the LDS "British Isles Vital Records Index" CD-ROMs, but that doesn't help me, as the software doesn't work on Windows 7. This parish appears to be in the IGI, but only from 1813 forward. <<snipped>> 1. So far as I understand it, *anything* from the BVRI editions has been loaded into FamilySearch. 2. I presume that you're saying "from 1813 onwards" because of what's in Hugh Wallis' site. If you try http://www.archersoftware.co.uk/igi/fs-batch.htm there's a later analysis of what there, and this shows much wider coverage for Stone. 3. Right now, I can't check this because either my machine or FamilySearch is telling me the number of results but not showing me any... Adrian
Hi Helen et al, there are also local researchers that are available too! Regards, Michael www.dig4ancestors.co.uk -------------------------------------------------- From: "Helen" <helen@wootton1.eclipse.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:58 PM To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com> Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stone parish records. > If you do not mind paying, downloading Stone parish records through > Staffordshire BMSGH is the route I went. > > Liking instant results I would like to see more of them to download. > > Stone is sparse through Family Search and other sources I tried. > > Hope this might help. > > Regards Helen. >
Daniel, I think you will find that the LDS "British Isles Vital Records Index" CD-ROMs software will work on Windows 7 if it is installed in compatibility mode. Peter Are pre-1813 baptisms and marriages at Stone St. Michael available anywhere online? According to this list http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/VRI2.html the baptisms and marriages back to 1567/8 were included on the LDS "British Isles Vital Records Index" CD-ROMs, but that doesn't help me, as the software doesn't work on Windows 7. This parish appears to be in the IGI, but only from 1813 forward.
If you do not mind paying, downloading Stone parish records through Staffordshire BMSGH is the route I went. Liking instant results I would like to see more of them to download. Stone is sparse through Family Search and other sources I tried. Hope this might help. Regards Helen.
Hi, I found some Stone, St. Michael records on the FreeReg website. To search go to this link: http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Baptisms - 1741 - 1809, 1813 - 1819 Marriages - 1741 - 1808, 1813 - 1818 Burials - 1741 - 1808, 1813 - 1819 Hope this helps, Jane Gillard Nova Scotia, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Morgan Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 12:11 PM To: STAFFORDSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Stone St Michael Are pre-1813 baptisms and marriages at Stone St. Michael available anywhere online? According to this list http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/VRI2.html the baptisms and marriages back to 1567/8 were included on the LDS "British Isles Vital Records Index" CD-ROMs, but that doesn't help me, as the software doesn't work on Windows 7.
Are pre-1813 baptisms and marriages at Stone St. Michael available anywhere online? According to this list http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/VRI2.html the baptisms and marriages back to 1567/8 were included on the LDS "British Isles Vital Records Index" CD-ROMs, but that doesn't help me, as the software doesn't work on Windows 7. This parish appears to be in the IGI, but only from 1813 forward.
Jan & Bill, Thanks for you offer of help. Will forward to you. John
Is the photo in a local book as I have many on my market stall on Longton Market and could look at it? If not may I see it too please? I have found a Joseph Handley? beer seller, Church Street, St Johns, Burslem. The address looks like Square and Compass but I may well be wrong here. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Bennett John Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:04 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Burslem public house? I am trying to identify the location of a photograph thought to date to about 1903. It is of group of people, including children, with a horse drawn dray containing beer barrels from a Burslem brewery. The group is outside of an unnamed licensed premises with a lamp projecting over the doorway. Above the door the lintel is engraved 'WINES'. Below this a glass panel inscribed ' Joseph Hambleto(n?) Licensed to sell Ale ... to be consumed on the premises'. The photographer is from Burslem and the dray driver is known to have lived in or near Nile Street, Burslem. Searches in directories and censuses have failed to find the named licensee. I wonder if anyone on the list has knowledge of this person to identify the public house location or can suggest a means of tracing him. Thank you. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Send me a digital copy to bill@harrisongenealogy.co.uk and I will try and identify it for you Regards Bill Sent from my iPad On 26 Feb 2013, at 23:04, Bennett John <john-bennett@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I am trying to identify the location of a photograph thought to date to about 1903. > > It is of group of people, including children, with a horse drawn dray containing beer barrels from a Burslem brewery. > > The group is outside of an unnamed licensed premises with a lamp projecting over the doorway. > > Above the door the lintel is engraved 'WINES'. Below this a glass panel inscribed ' Joseph Hambleto(n?) Licensed to sell Ale ... to be consumed on the premises'. > > The photographer is from Burslem and the dray driver is known to have lived in or near Nile Street, Burslem. > > Searches in directories and censuses have failed to find the named licensee. > > I wonder if anyone on the list has knowledge of this person to identify the public house location or can suggest a means of tracing him. > > Thank you. > > > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Have you looked in the 1901 census? Jan -----Original Message----- From: Bennett John Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:04 PM To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Burslem public house? I am trying to identify the location of a photograph thought to date to about 1903. It is of group of people, including children, with a horse drawn dray containing beer barrels from a Burslem brewery. The group is outside of an unnamed licensed premises with a lamp projecting over the doorway. Above the door the lintel is engraved 'WINES'. Below this a glass panel inscribed ' Joseph Hambleto(n?) Licensed to sell Ale ... to be consumed on the premises'. The photographer is from Burslem and the dray driver is known to have lived in or near Nile Street, Burslem. Searches in directories and censuses have failed to find the named licensee. I wonder if anyone on the list has knowledge of this person to identify the public house location or can suggest a means of tracing him. Thank you. ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am trying to identify the location of a photograph thought to date to about 1903. It is of group of people, including children, with a horse drawn dray containing beer barrels from a Burslem brewery. The group is outside of an unnamed licensed premises with a lamp projecting over the doorway. Above the door the lintel is engraved 'WINES'. Below this a glass panel inscribed ' Joseph Hambleto(n?) Licensed to sell Ale ... to be consumed on the premises'. The photographer is from Burslem and the dray driver is known to have lived in or near Nile Street, Burslem. Searches in directories and censuses have failed to find the named licensee. I wonder if anyone on the list has knowledge of this person to identify the public house location or can suggest a means of tracing him. Thank you.
Greetings Listers I am descended from James TURNER (baptised in Leek on 25 May 1688), who, on his marriage to Elizabeth WHILLOCK (of Ford) in All Saints' Grindon on 6 Feb 1713(4) - or maybe 1712(3) - was described as 'Mr James TURNER jnr of Bradnop'. His father was Mr James TURNER Snr. I have been led to believe that for a man to be designated 'Mr' in those times indicated at least minor importance - possibly the equivalent of Esq after the name? My first question is this: can anyone enlighten me on the use of 'Mr' in the early 18th century please? Secondly, where can I found some info about Bradnop at that time, please? I've tried the Internet but most 'hits' are for houses for sale there! I'd be interested in finding out if 'my' TURNERs had a named property in the area or if the designation of 'Mr' had another connotation. I'd also like to hear from anyone who is descended from either James - snr had 11 children, 8 of whom may have had descendants; jnr had 7, 6 of whom may have had descendants. The remaining children in each case died very young. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia
Hello Pam James Turner Senior b. 1663-1742 of Bradnop was the eldest son of Ralph Turner of The Padwicke, Ipstones, Staffs and his wife Ann or Elizabeth Jolliffe - the Turners were an old family who established their seat at Padwicke in Norman times and rumoured to be descended from a standard bearer to William 1, and therefore were of some importance in the area. One of James senior's sons was Reverend Daniel Turner of Meerbrook, (1709-1789) and Turners held the living of Meerbrook for 120 years, from 1745-1863. Ralph Turner was my 8 X great grandfather and I have more information on my family history website if you would like to contact me - I don't have details of your ancestor James Turner's marriage or children so would be pleased to exchange information. Regards - Joan ----Original Message---- From: cliveden@acenet.net.au Date: 26/02/2013 4:20 To: "STAFFORDSHIRE Mailing List"<STAFFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Subj: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 'Mr' Turner of Bradnop Greetings Listers I am descended from James TURNER (baptised in Leek on 25 May 1688), who, on his marriage to Elizabeth WHILLOCK (of Ford) in All Saints' Grindon on 6 Feb 1713(4) - or maybe 1712(3) - was described as 'Mr James TURNER jnr of Bradnop'. His father was Mr James TURNER Snr. I have been led to believe that for a man to be designated 'Mr' in those times indicated at least minor importance - possibly the equivalent of Esq after the name? My first question is this: can anyone enlighten me on the use of 'Mr' in the early 18th century please? Secondly, where can I found some info about Bradnop at that time, please? I've tried the Internet but most 'hits' are for houses for sale there! I'd be interested in finding out if 'my' TURNERs had a named property in the area or if the designation of 'Mr' had another connotation. I'd also like to hear from anyone who is descended from either James - snr had 11 children, 8 of whom may have had descendants; jnr had 7, 6 of whom may have had descendants. The remaining children in each case died very young. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Pam, Bradnop is an isolated village situated in the Roaches, which is the beginning or end of the Pennine Chain, local council Leek, North Staffordshire Staffordshire. If you search for Churnet Valley Books, or Picture Book Shop same company, Stanley Street Leek. Churnet Valley Books is the publisher of most of the local history books, covering the area. Maybe you will have to phone or write to them. By the way Turner is a very common name in the area. Denise ________________________________ From: PMR <cliveden@acenet.net.au> To: STAFFORDSHIRE Mailing List <STAFFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013, 4:20 Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 'Mr' Turner of Bradnop Greetings Listers I am descended from James TURNER (baptised in Leek on 25 May 1688), who, on his marriage to Elizabeth WHILLOCK (of Ford) in All Saints' Grindon on 6 Feb 1713(4) - or maybe 1712(3) - was described as 'Mr James TURNER jnr of Bradnop'. His father was Mr James TURNER Snr. I have been led to believe that for a man to be designated 'Mr' in those times indicated at least minor importance - possibly the equivalent of Esq after the name? My first question is this: can anyone enlighten me on the use of 'Mr' in the early 18th century please? Secondly, where can I found some info about Bradnop at that time, please? I've tried the Internet but most 'hits' are for houses for sale there! I'd be interested in finding out if 'my' TURNERs had a named property in the area or if the designation of 'Mr' had another connotation. I'd also like to hear from anyone who is descended from either James - snr had 11 children, 8 of whom may have had descendants; jnr had 7, 6 of whom may have had descendants. The remaining children in each case died very young. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I found James Turner of Hare House Upper Bradnop 18th Century. You can buy Local History books on line, try searching Google Books or World Books, you can also ask for a search by Stafford Records Office, they do charge though. HTH Linda. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2 -----Original Message----- From: "PMR" <cliveden@acenet.net.au> Sender: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:20:56 To: STAFFORDSHIRE Mailing List<STAFFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [STAFFORDSHIRE] 'Mr' Turner of Bradnop Greetings Listers I am descended from James TURNER (baptised in Leek on 25 May 1688), who, on his marriage to Elizabeth WHILLOCK (of Ford) in All Saints' Grindon on 6 Feb 1713(4) - or maybe 1712(3) - was described as 'Mr James TURNER jnr of Bradnop'. His father was Mr James TURNER Snr. I have been led to believe that for a man to be designated 'Mr' in those times indicated at least minor importance - possibly the equivalent of Esq after the name? My first question is this: can anyone enlighten me on the use of 'Mr' in the early 18th century please? Secondly, where can I found some info about Bradnop at that time, please? I've tried the Internet but most 'hits' are for houses for sale there! I'd be interested in finding out if 'my' TURNERs had a named property in the area or if the designation of 'Mr' had another connotation. I'd also like to hear from anyone who is descended from either James - snr had 11 children, 8 of whom may have had descendants; jnr had 7, 6 of whom may have had descendants. The remaining children in each case died very young. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Denise ALL the MUNICIPAL Cemeteries have both Consecrated AND Un-Consecrated ground. Remember These are NOT graveyards attached to a Church .......... they are Burial Grounds provided by the Local Authorities and as such are not Legally subject to the requirements of any Church. As far as I am aware Fenton Cemetery for example is the only one in Stoke on Trent which allows Muslim Burials A list of Municipal Cemeteries in Stoke on Trent and their opening dates can be found at the following address on my website. http://www.northstaffsresearch.co.uk/cemsts.htm Regards Bill -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Denise Sent: 17 February 2013 21:23 To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Public Graves Hi Thank you all, this as been very helpful, but it seems strange that part of the same cemetery of Burslem, Stoke-on-Trent had parts of consecrated ground and an other part unconsecrated. Denise ________________________________ From: Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2013, 19:58 Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Public Graves Certain people years back could not be buried in consecrated ground -= these included illegitimate children and suicides. People who were deemed to hve committed a grave crime in other worlds. Hence so many autopsies came up with the phrase - whilst of unsound mind ... so the person was NOT committing a crime and therefore could be curried in consecrated ground. You may find burials OUTSIDE the church yard for that reason..in the days when the church had burials round it. Here, it is not common as by the 1860s I think there were all public land cemeteries rather than round churchyards though in the very first settlements in Australia, you may well find graves round a church. Consecrated meant - set aside for God - things these days may be consecrated to the Lord's service for example - say, missionaries, or particular items "furniture" - of the church - such items may include the chalice, font etc etc. And I really think it does not have much to do with C of E or not! It is related to sanctity, saints, all those sorts of words come ultimately from the same Latin (and Greek) roots. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:staffordshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Bruce Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2013 11:29 PM To: 'Denise'; staffordshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] Public Graves It may be useful to read the FAQ page of the Cemetery Research Group of York University. (No, I didn't realise there was one either...) http://www.york.ac.uk/chp/crg/crgcontext.htm Specifically at http://www.york.ac.uk/chp/crg/crgcontext.htm#cost it says: "In England, people do not 'buy' graves. Two options are available. In the case of an 'unpurchased' or 'public' grave, interment takes place in a grave owned by the local authority. A grave may contain one or coffins of unrelated individuals, since the local authority decides how the plot is to be used. A second option is the purchase of a burial right, for a particular grave. These graves are called 'private' or 'purchased' graves. The owner of the burial right retains the right to decide who is buried in a given plot. " It seems to me therefore that "Pauper's Grave" is a (probably unofficial?) term for a "Public Grave". Re "the difference between consecrated and unconsecrated ground" - at the risk of being thought unhelpful, one lot is consecrated, the other isn't. At http://www.york.ac.uk/chp/crg/crgcontext.htm#same this quote may be useful: "Churchyards are consecrated tracts of land subject to Church or Canon law. ... Cemeteries may contain consecrated sections, which are also subject to Church law. However, for the most part cemeteries are managed under civic legislation. " Perhaps more useful questions are: - Which Church consecrated the ground in a cemetery referred to as "consecrated"? My belief is that "consecrated" in this context means consecrated by the Church of England. - What's the difference in use between "consecrated" and "unconsecrated"? That's where I'm reduced to guessing... I believe that consecrated ground would be used only by the Church of England (CofE) so that the most obvious reason for being buried in unconsecrated is that the person was not CofE. But where CofE cremations would end up, or in what other circumstances a CofE person might end up in non-CofE ground, I don't really know. 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Could the people involved have been Non Christians eg Jewish something to exclude them from the consecrated ground...sometimes public graves come about because of natural disaster, epidemic's or accidents where there are too many bodies to be buried individually at the one time Pauper burials are still used today mostly individual graves for the unidentified, homeless etc cheers denis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ooooppss" <Ooooppss@btinternet.com> To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com>; "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 40 > Dawn Webb wrote, Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:58:27 +1100 > >> so the person was NOT committing a crime and >> therefore could be curried in consecrated ground. > > I must remember that.... ;-) > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE > of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the > link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
<<snipped>> Pauper burials are still used today mostly individual graves for the unidentified, homeless etc <<snipped>> Public graves (and I'm deliberately using that term) can also be used for the burial of people who have money and assets but simply have no known friends or relatives so have to be buried by the local authorities. ("Eleanor Rigby" springs to mind for those of a certain age). Adrian B
Hi No he died in hospital with dementia, in 1923, aged 70 and in 1949 his wife also died in hospital, but still lived in the same house from 1923. I am trying to solve a mystery, because we believe he was born with a different name of Reuben Joseph Pain son of Henry Pain and Mary Dry in 1853 in Bristol but by the time of his marriage in 1879 Sneyd Church Cobridge he was calling himself William Dry. Was that the reason he was buried in a Public Grave or Paupers Grave. I am also making other enquiries. Would there be an announcement placed in the papers in Bristol. Denise ________________________________ From: Denis Edwards <djedwds@bigpond.com> To: staffordshire@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 0:47 Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 40 Could the people involved have been Non Christians eg Jewish something to exclude them from the consecrated ground...sometimes public graves come about because of natural disaster, epidemic's or accidents where there are too many bodies to be buried individually at the one time Pauper burials are still used today mostly individual graves for the unidentified, homeless etc cheers denis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ooooppss" <Ooooppss@btinternet.com> To: <staffordshire@rootsweb.com>; "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [STAFFORDSHIRE] STAFFORDSHIRE Digest, Vol 8, Issue 40 > Dawn Webb wrote, Mon, 18 Feb 2013 06:58:27 +1100 > >> so the person was NOT committing a crime and >> therefore could be curried in consecrated ground. > > I must remember that.... ;-) > > ****************************** > ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not > apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED > MATERIALS. > ****************************** > PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE > of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the > link. It's usually from an infected source! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ****************************** ATTENTION TO ALL:- When replying please remove the details that do not apply to your mail and change the SUBJECT LINE for best useage of ARCHIVED MATERIALS. ****************************** PLEASE keep your Anti-Virus and Anti-Malware software up to date. BEWARE of messages making it onto the List with a single URL. NEVER follow the link. It's usually from an infected source! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to STAFFORDSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message