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    1. Birth information
    2. Michael McAllister
    3. Hi List, first time member of this List. I would like to pose a question if I may please? I have two people who were allegedly born in Sri Lanka/Ceylon. A, Kingsley Vernon OORLOFF some time before 1900, the son of Charles Joseph and Louisa Wilhilmina De La HARPE. B, Aidlin Beatrice Maud CLASSEN, born 25 March 1897, daughter of James Gerald and Aidlin Maud SCHOKMAN, both parents possibly of Dutch descent. I have no idea of whether there are records centres situated within Sri Lanka, or whether they would have been within their parents embassy records for birth abroad. Any ideas would be very much welcomed. Many thanks and kind regards Mick McAllister

    01/23/2006 06:09:01
    1. Re: Birth information
    2. Geoff Summers
    3. Mick I've found some names of possible interest to you in the Times of Ceylon Green Book 1932 which provides the list of inhabitants of Ceylon and other statistical information for 1931. I know no more about each individual. I gave the Schokman information to someone else on the list so you may have another source. With regard to other records, Ceylon did not send records back to the UK as did India so all the records are somewhere in Sri Lanka. The LDS did film many, many records but you have to know the Districts you're interested in and approximate dates. You can get an idea of the complication by browsing as follows: http://www.familysearch.org/ Click Library Click Library Catalogue Click Place Search In 'Place', enter "Sri Lanka". Click Search. You'll get 1 record: Sri Lanka, click it Click 'View Related Places' at top right Choose your Province Choose Civil registration Choose your record type and year range Click 'View Film Notes' at top right to see film numbers Go have a beer. Someone may know an easier way. Times of Ceylon Green Book 1932: Men's Section: (note difference in spelling of "Claessen" to yours) Claessen, B.N.; Surveyor & Leveller, Harbour Engineer's Dept., Colombo Claessen, D.C.; Central Hiring Garage, Bambalapitiya, Colombo Claessen, J.; Asst., Kennedy & Co., "Times Building", Colombo (Kennedy & Co. Importers of high grade footware of every description & Gents' outfitters) Claessen, J.G.; Asst. Engineer, P.W.D., Government Factory, Colombo De La Harpe, E.A.; Divisional Inspector, Education Office & Church Cross St., Galle De La Harpe, L; L.M.S. (Cey.), J.M.O., 20 Middle St., Galle De La Harpe, L.S.; L.M.S. (Cey.), Uda Pussellawa De La Harpe, M.N.; Engineer, Rowlands Garages Ltd, Colombo & "Mont Haze", Kirilaponne, Nugegoda De La Harpe, P.H.; C.C.S., O.A. to The Hon. The Chief Secretary, Dickman's Road, Havelock Town, Colombo De La Harpe, T. St. C. J.; Teacher, St. Joseph's College & "The Aviary", 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo Oorloff, A.G.L.; Sub. Asst., Govt. Analyst's Dept.,francis Road, Maradana & 297/6, Felsinger Town, Havelock Rd., Colombo Oorloff, C.F.; Barrister-at-Law & Advocate, Gampaha Oorloff, C.J.; C.C.S., Addtnl. Police Magistrate, Colombo & Kachcheri, Kalutara Oorloff, Chas. J.; Wellawette, Colombo Oorloff, Ian E.; Florist, Trevine Gardens, Layard's Road, Havelock Town, Colombo Oorloff, H.S.; Asst., Trevine Gardens, Layard's Road, Havelock Town, Colombo Oorloff, James; Ret'd Executive Engineer, Board of Improvement, "Horton Cottage", Kandy Oorloff, T.R.; Examiner of Motor Cars & Drivers, Nuwara Eliya Schokman, A.G.; Proctor, D.C., Kurunegala Schokman, Clarence A.; Clarands Estate, Maraluwawe, Kurunegala Schokman, C.C.; (Ind. Army Retired), Actrg. Inspector-General of Prisons, Secy., Board of Prison Visitors, Secy., Central Probation Board, "Roxane", Campbell Park, Colombo Schokman, C.G.; Dist. Engineer, c/o PWD, Colombo Schokman, E.W.; Auctioneer, Broker & Valuator, "Endsleigh", Waidya Road, Dehiwela, & No. 83, Trincomalee Street, Kandy Schokman, G.V.; Proctor S.C. & Notary Public, Matara Schokman, H.C.; Asst. Divisional Transportation Superintendant, C.G.R., Colombo Schokman, H.E.; L.M.S. (Cey), L.R.C.P.&S. (Edin.) L.R.F.P.&S. (Glas.), Watupitiwala, Veyangoda Schokman, J.A.; "Eveleigh", Hampden Lane, Wellawatta, Colombo Schokman, N.; Sanitary Inspector, Municipal Health Dept., & "Ellscourt", Turret Road, Colombo. Capt. Ceylon Engrs. Schokman, P.A.; Colombo Schokman, R; F.S.I.; Chartered Surveyor, Govt.Ass. Dept., Secretariat & "Ellareen", Kanatte Road, Colombo Schokman, S.; Transport Supdt., Walker Sons & Co. Ltd., and 1/1 Albion Road, off Base Line Road, Colombo Schokman, S.J.C.; Advocate, Crown Counsel, Attorney-General's Dept., Colombo Schokman, V.R.; L.M.S. (Cey),M.S.C. President, Amateur Swimming Association, Mackinnon Bldgs., & "Muiresk", Dickman's Road, Colombo Schokman, W. Herbert; L.M.S., District Medical Officer, Kotmale Schokman, W.J.H.; Clerk, Supreme Court Registry & Milepost Avenue, 17, Colpetty, Colombo Ladies' Section Claessen, Mrs. B.N.; "Hill Crest", Nugegoda De La Harpe, Miss C. St. C; Teacher, St. Joseph's College & "The Aviary", 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo De La Harpe, Mrs E.A.; Church Cross St., Galle De La Harpe, Mrs L; 20, Middle St., Galle. Hon Secy., Y.W.C.A., Phone 41 Galle De La Harpe, Mrs. P.H.; Havelock Town, Colombo De La Harpe, Miss T. St. C. E.; Teacher, St. Joseph's College & "The Aviary", 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo De La Harpe, Mrs. T. St. Clair; "The Aviary", 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo Oorloff, Mrs A.G.L.; 297/6, Felsinger Town, Havelock Rd., Colombo Oorloff, Mrs. C.F.; Gampaha Oorloff, Miss. Ina; Manageress, Ascot Gardens, Thimbirigasyaya Road, Colombo Oorloff, Mrs. Jas. O.; "Horton Cottage", Kandy Schokman, Mrs. C.C.; "Roxane", Campbell Park, Colombo Schokman, Mrs. Earle; Proprietress, "Clarice", Malabar St., Kandy Schokman, Mrs. E.W.; "Edesleigh", Waidya Road, Dehiwala Schokman, Mrs. G.V.; Matara Schokman, Mrs. J.A.; Maternity Nurse, "Eveleigh", Hampden Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo Schokman, Mrs. L.A.; Homeleigh, Kurunegala Schokman, Mrs. N.; "Ellscourt", Turret Road, Colombo Schokman, Mrs. P.A.; Colombo Schokman, Mrs. R; "Ellarene", Kanatte Road, Colombo Schokman, Mrs. S.; Albion Road, off Base Line Road, Colombo Schokman, Mrs. S.J.C.; "Syrac", Gower St., Colombo Schokman, Mrs. V.R.; "Muiresk", Havelock Town, Colombo Schokman, Mrs. W. Herbert; Kotmale Schokman, Mrs. W.J.H.; 17 Milepost Avenue, Colpetty, Colombo Overseas section Claessen, Mrs. W.; 72 Bedford St., North, Liverpool Schokman, Dr. D.; c/o National Provincial Bank of England, 208/209, Piccadilly, London, W. Obituaries: Claessen, James G.; Retired Station Master, C.G.R. Died at Wellatte 30th July 1931. Aged 82 years. Schokman, Walter Denzil; Late of the General Rubber Co., Colombo. Died in the General Hospital, Colombo, 2nd Dec., 1931. Aged 37 years Schokman, W.H.; Propy. Planter. Died at Kekanadura Estate, Matara, 2nd Feb., 1932 Abbreviations: P.W.D. - Public Works Department L.M.S. - Licentiate in Medicine & Surgery J.M.O. - Judicial Medical Officer C.C.S. - Ceylon Civil Service O.A. - ? L.R.C.P.&S. - Licentiate of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons L.R.F.P.&S. - ? M.S.C. - ? C.G.R. - Ceylon Government Railway Regards Geoff Summers Canterbury, Kent, England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael McAllister" <mcallisterfamily@btopenworld.com> To: "SRI LANKA list" <SRILANKA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Birth information > Hi List, first time member of this List. > I would like to pose a question if I may please? > > I have two people who were allegedly born in Sri Lanka/Ceylon. > > A, Kingsley Vernon OORLOFF some time before 1900, the son of Charles > Joseph and Louisa Wilhilmina De La HARPE. > B, Aidlin Beatrice Maud CLASSEN, born 25 March 1897, daughter of James > Gerald and Aidlin Maud SCHOKMAN, both parents possibly of Dutch descent. > > I have no idea of whether there are records centres situated within Sri > Lanka, or whether they would have been within their parents embassy > records for birth abroad. > > Any ideas would be very much welcomed. > > Many thanks and kind regards Mick McAllister >

    01/24/2006 03:34:49
    1. Re: [SRILANKA] Re: Birth information
    2. Gay Fielding
    3. Hi Geoff, Nice to see you pop your head up again... You have given me the information below previously, but despite the fact that I know EXACTLY the date of the marriage and the place, and a Sri Lankan friend here in Australia was able to tell me the Name of the Province and the District. I still had difficulties which I have not yet been able to overcome. When you get to that step, there is then the problem of knowing which Religion Cheers Gay Message ----- From: "Geoff Summers" <Geoff@Summers.net> To: <SRILANKA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: [SRILANKA] Re: Birth information > Mick > > I've found some names of possible interest to you in the Times of Ceylon > Green Book 1932 which provides the list of inhabitants of Ceylon and other > statistical information for 1931. I know no more about each individual. I > gave the Schokman information to someone else on the list so you may have > another source. > > With regard to other records, Ceylon did not send records back to the UK > as > did India so all the records are somewhere in Sri Lanka. The LDS did film > many, many records but you have to know the Districts you're interested in > and approximate dates. You can get an idea of the complication by browsing > as follows: > > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Click Library > Click Library Catalogue > Click Place Search > In 'Place', enter "Sri Lanka". Click Search. > You'll get 1 record: Sri Lanka, click it > Click 'View Related Places' at top right > Choose your Province > Choose Civil registration > Choose your record type and year range > Click 'View Film Notes' at top right to see film numbers > Go have a beer. > Someone may know an easier way. > > > Times of Ceylon Green Book 1932: > > Men's Section: > (note difference in spelling of "Claessen" to yours) > Claessen, B.N.; Surveyor & Leveller, Harbour Engineer's Dept., Colombo > Claessen, D.C.; Central Hiring Garage, Bambalapitiya, Colombo > Claessen, J.; Asst., Kennedy & Co., "Times Building", Colombo > (Kennedy & Co. Importers of high grade footware of every description & > Gents' outfitters) > Claessen, J.G.; Asst. Engineer, P.W.D., Government Factory, Colombo > De La Harpe, E.A.; Divisional Inspector, Education Office & Church Cross > St., Galle > De La Harpe, L; L.M.S. (Cey.), J.M.O., 20 Middle St., Galle > De La Harpe, L.S.; L.M.S. (Cey.), Uda Pussellawa > De La Harpe, M.N.; Engineer, Rowlands Garages Ltd, Colombo & "Mont Haze", > Kirilaponne, Nugegoda > De La Harpe, P.H.; C.C.S., O.A. to The Hon. The Chief Secretary, Dickman's > Road, Havelock Town, Colombo > De La Harpe, T. St. C. J.; Teacher, St. Joseph's College & "The Aviary", > 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo > Oorloff, A.G.L.; Sub. Asst., Govt. Analyst's Dept.,francis Road, Maradana > & > 297/6, Felsinger Town, Havelock Rd., Colombo > Oorloff, C.F.; Barrister-at-Law & Advocate, Gampaha > Oorloff, C.J.; C.C.S., Addtnl. Police Magistrate, Colombo & Kachcheri, > Kalutara > Oorloff, Chas. J.; Wellawette, Colombo > Oorloff, Ian E.; Florist, Trevine Gardens, Layard's Road, Havelock Town, > Colombo > Oorloff, H.S.; Asst., Trevine Gardens, Layard's Road, Havelock Town, > Colombo > Oorloff, James; Ret'd Executive Engineer, Board of Improvement, "Horton > Cottage", Kandy > Oorloff, T.R.; Examiner of Motor Cars & Drivers, Nuwara Eliya > Schokman, A.G.; Proctor, D.C., Kurunegala > Schokman, Clarence A.; Clarands Estate, Maraluwawe, Kurunegala > Schokman, C.C.; (Ind. Army Retired), Actrg. Inspector-General of Prisons, > Secy., Board of Prison Visitors, Secy., Central Probation Board, "Roxane", > Campbell Park, Colombo > Schokman, C.G.; Dist. Engineer, c/o PWD, Colombo > Schokman, E.W.; Auctioneer, Broker & Valuator, "Endsleigh", Waidya Road, > Dehiwela, & No. 83, Trincomalee Street, Kandy > Schokman, G.V.; Proctor S.C. & Notary Public, Matara > Schokman, H.C.; Asst. Divisional Transportation Superintendant, C.G.R., > Colombo > Schokman, H.E.; L.M.S. (Cey), L.R.C.P.&S. (Edin.) L.R.F.P.&S. (Glas.), > Watupitiwala, Veyangoda > Schokman, J.A.; "Eveleigh", Hampden Lane, Wellawatta, Colombo > Schokman, N.; Sanitary Inspector, Municipal Health Dept., & "Ellscourt", > Turret Road, Colombo. Capt. Ceylon Engrs. > Schokman, P.A.; Colombo > Schokman, R; F.S.I.; Chartered Surveyor, Govt.Ass. Dept., Secretariat & > "Ellareen", Kanatte Road, Colombo > Schokman, S.; Transport Supdt., Walker Sons & Co. Ltd., and 1/1 Albion > Road, > off Base Line Road, Colombo > Schokman, S.J.C.; Advocate, Crown Counsel, Attorney-General's Dept., > Colombo > Schokman, V.R.; L.M.S. (Cey),M.S.C. President, Amateur Swimming > Association, > Mackinnon Bldgs., & "Muiresk", Dickman's Road, Colombo > Schokman, W. Herbert; L.M.S., District Medical Officer, Kotmale > Schokman, W.J.H.; Clerk, Supreme Court Registry & Milepost Avenue, 17, > Colpetty, Colombo > > > Ladies' Section > Claessen, Mrs. B.N.; "Hill Crest", Nugegoda > De La Harpe, Miss C. St. C; Teacher, St. Joseph's College & "The Aviary", > 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo > De La Harpe, Mrs E.A.; Church Cross St., Galle > De La Harpe, Mrs L; 20, Middle St., Galle. Hon Secy., Y.W.C.A., Phone 41 > Galle > De La Harpe, Mrs. P.H.; Havelock Town, Colombo > De La Harpe, Miss T. St. C. E.; Teacher, St. Joseph's College & "The > Aviary", 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, Colombo > De La Harpe, Mrs. T. St. Clair; "The Aviary", 43rd Lane, Wellawatte, > Colombo > Oorloff, Mrs A.G.L.; 297/6, Felsinger Town, Havelock Rd., Colombo > Oorloff, Mrs. C.F.; Gampaha > Oorloff, Miss. Ina; Manageress, Ascot Gardens, Thimbirigasyaya Road, > Colombo > Oorloff, Mrs. Jas. O.; "Horton Cottage", Kandy > Schokman, Mrs. C.C.; "Roxane", Campbell Park, Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. Earle; Proprietress, "Clarice", Malabar St., Kandy > Schokman, Mrs. E.W.; "Edesleigh", Waidya Road, Dehiwala > Schokman, Mrs. G.V.; Matara > Schokman, Mrs. J.A.; Maternity Nurse, "Eveleigh", Hampden Lane, > Wellawatte, > Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. L.A.; Homeleigh, Kurunegala > Schokman, Mrs. N.; "Ellscourt", Turret Road, Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. P.A.; Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. R; "Ellarene", Kanatte Road, Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. S.; Albion Road, off Base Line Road, Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. S.J.C.; "Syrac", Gower St., Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. V.R.; "Muiresk", Havelock Town, Colombo > Schokman, Mrs. W. Herbert; Kotmale > Schokman, Mrs. W.J.H.; 17 Milepost Avenue, Colpetty, Colombo > > Overseas section > Claessen, Mrs. W.; 72 Bedford St., North, Liverpool > Schokman, Dr. D.; c/o National Provincial Bank of England, 208/209, > Piccadilly, London, W. > > Obituaries: > Claessen, James G.; Retired Station Master, C.G.R. Died at Wellatte 30th > July 1931. Aged 82 years. > Schokman, Walter Denzil; Late of the General Rubber Co., Colombo. Died in > the General Hospital, Colombo, 2nd Dec., 1931. Aged 37 years > Schokman, W.H.; Propy. Planter. Died at Kekanadura Estate, Matara, 2nd > Feb., > 1932 > > Abbreviations: > P.W.D. - Public Works Department > L.M.S. - Licentiate in Medicine & Surgery > J.M.O. - Judicial Medical Officer > C.C.S. - Ceylon Civil Service > O.A. - ? > L.R.C.P.&S. - Licentiate of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons > L.R.F.P.&S. - ? > M.S.C. - ? > C.G.R. - Ceylon Government Railway > > > Regards > > Geoff Summers > Canterbury, Kent, England > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael McAllister" <mcallisterfamily@btopenworld.com> > To: "SRI LANKA list" <SRILANKA-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:09 PM > Subject: Birth information > > >> Hi List, first time member of this List. >> I would like to pose a question if I may please? >> >> I have two people who were allegedly born in Sri Lanka/Ceylon. >> >> A, Kingsley Vernon OORLOFF some time before 1900, the son of Charles >> Joseph and Louisa Wilhilmina De La HARPE. >> B, Aidlin Beatrice Maud CLASSEN, born 25 March 1897, daughter of James >> Gerald and Aidlin Maud SCHOKMAN, both parents possibly of Dutch descent. >> >> I have no idea of whether there are records centres situated within Sri >> Lanka, or whether they would have been within their parents embassy >> records for birth abroad. >> >> Any ideas would be very much welcomed. >> >> Many thanks and kind regards Mick McAllister >> > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. 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    01/25/2006 02:16:32