Thanks for your message, Camilla. You write that BMD records are difficult to come by. Do you know of any genealogical researchers in Sri Lanka who might help to find such records? I've looked at the British Overseas death indexes at www.findmypast.com to no avail. all the best, Stephen. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Camilla Barlow" <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] William Small > Hi Stephen > Ceylon was a colony until abt 1948. All BDM's were only recorded in > Ceylon. > They are difficult to come by.If you were looking for an English person > born > overseas in a country with diplomatic relations you can look in the UK in > the Family Records Centre or online at > http://www.findmypast.com/HomeServlet > The British Library has some information. They have a few Fergusons > Directories but I can't remember which years. They may have other > Newspapers > as well. > Times Digital may have information as well but it is not free. > Regards Camilla

William Small was my wife's grandfather. He was an architect in Colombo in the 1930s, and designed the Times Building. I believe his Arcitectural practice was called 'Adam & Small'. He was killed in a car accident in 1935 (I think). Can anyone please advise how I might go about getting some more information about his life and death? Would there be a death certificate available, as they are in the UK? If so what is the method of getting a copy. Would there have been a coroner's inquest, and if so might there still be a report available? Are there any Architectural magazines etc that might have included articles about his work? Can anybody recommend any avenue of enquiry that might lead to more information, please? I realise it's a lot to ask, but I would be extremely grateful for any help anyone might offer. Stephen Greatorex.

Thank you very much for your offer Margo, and really no hurry whenever you have time if you can peek at the films. I have to commend the LDS center and your colleagues because also Gerda Bals and Susan Wilhelm helped me very efficiently in 2004, but alas I am stuck for a reply from Sri Lanka already a long time. I am looking for "Correspondence of the Colombo Consistory with The Netherlands (outward), 1721-1798. The film numbers are 1495578 item 5 and 1495579 items 1-4. In the above I am in particular looking for Wilhelm Buultjens (1715 - 03 Jan 1791) his wife (or wives) Elizabeth Adriaansz (1739 – 22 May 1829) they married in 1779 in Galle. The strange thing is that Wilhelm arrived in 1746 in Galle and only in 1779 I have that marriage date for him with Elizabeth. However, the 4 children listed for him have early birth dates and I think Elizabeth was a second or third wife. Johanna, born? – died 7 Feb 1832 Maria, born 28th March 1765 – died 7 May 1824 Hendrik, born 27 March 1770 – died 15 Nov 1817 Dirk, born 1777 christened 23 Apr 1777 – died 24 Mar 1811, married unknown wife(wives) I am interested in the offspring of Hendrik and mostly of Dirk (my branch). I would like to know if there are genealogy notes on the above films (b – m – d data) or just church minutes like you can see on website: http://www.aecg.evtheol.lmu.de/cms/index.php?id=10 which are the Minutes of the Consistory of the Dutch Reformed Church in Colombo Held at the Wolvendaal Church, Colombo 1735–1796 Translated by S. A. W. Mottau † Edited by Klaus Koschorke Thank you again very much, regards, Jennifer On 10/04/07, Margo Mckinstry <McKinstryMJ@ldschurch.org> wrote: > Jennifer, > > I work here at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. If you can > pinpoint the film you need, I would be happy to crank it. I don't have a lot of > time to do the research end but can snatch some time to look at a film for you. > > Just let me know - no time limit - in fact, I'm in school right now so later > would be better for me. Also, on www.nationalarchives.gov.uk in "Search > archives" and then "The Catalogue", search your soldier's name and WO97 as the > entire database for WO97 is on the web. From that reference, I may be able to > find a film here for you as well unless you have all his soldiering information > already. > > Margo > > >>> "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com > 4/9/2007 2:31 PM >>> > > Hi Camilla, > I wish that I had the LDS library here in Israel but they dont have a > center here and so I cannot order the films, besides their pages were > difficult to follow for me as they are listed in in different subjects > or listings, that is why I made the file. > Strange, I have the whole excel file in the computer and all the lines > which are in blue go automatically to the LDS page of that file and > back again when I click on "back". I have to check out what is going > on, thanks for telling me. > regards, > Jennifer > > > > On 09/04/07, Camilla Barlow <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> wrote: > > Goodness me! This is a hard way to go. By the way it doesn't take you back > > to the LDS library. Surely it is easier to go to the Library yourself and > > search for what you want. > > I didn't reply on my behalf. I was trying to help Christopher. I am very > > familiar with the LDS and Sri Lanka research. > > Camilla > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> > > To: < christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > > Cc: "Camilla Barlow" <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:33 AM > > Subject: LDS file of SL microfilms of Ceylon > > > > > > > Hello Christopher and Camilla, > > > I saw the correspondence just now, attached is the SL list in excel > > > for all the films in the LDS library. I got so tangled up in their > > > many windows I decided to make a list, there are 4232 film titles. > > > > > > After you have downloaded the excel file into your computer, leave the > > > internet on - click on one of the blue lines of the file, it will > > > bring you automatically to the LDS site and to the written information > > > pertaining to the microfilm. > > > Again this is not the genealogy information but it is the file name > > > and number so that you can order it for viewing in whatever city you > > > are living. Your local LDS has to order it from Salt Lake city, Utah, > > > USA. > > > When you want to go back to the excel file you either press on the top > > > left corner BACK, or you on the bottom bar of your screen you press on > > > your excell file tab and you are back into the file. > > > > > > the LDS has many centers around the world, look up if they have a > > > center in the city where you live - IF they do have a > > > center there or close(!) by, call them and tell them you want to order > > > micro films and what is the procedure. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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Gay, Yes, in answer to both questions! I remain convinced that I have to look for a marriage in this country (UK). I will start with Manchester (where the eldest child, that I am aware of, was born) and work backwards from there! I have in my possession a book 'The history of the Royal Irish Regiment,, which, in an appendix, gives a chronological diary of the location of the regiment! There's a lot of possible parishes to cover so I suspect it will keep me busy! Thanks again and thanks also to Camilla and Jennifer for their suggestions! Chris Merry (UK) > > From: "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> > Date: 2007/04/09 Mon PM 09:31:32 BST > To: srilanka@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] LDS file of SL microfilms of Ceylon > > Hi Camilla, > I wish that I had the LDS library here in Israel but they dont have a > center here and so I cannot order the films, besides their pages were > difficult to follow for me as they are listed in in different subjects > or listings, that is why I made the file. > Strange, I have the whole excel file in the computer and all the lines > which are in blue go automatically to the LDS page of that file and > back again when I click on "back". I have to check out what is going > on, thanks for telling me. > regards, > Jennifer > > > > On 09/04/07, Camilla Barlow <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> wrote: > > Goodness me! This is a hard way to go. By the way it doesn't take you back > > to the LDS library. Surely it is easier to go to the Library yourself and > > search for what you want. > > I didn't reply on my behalf. I was trying to help Christopher. I am very > > familiar with the LDS and Sri Lanka research. > > Camilla > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> > > To: <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > > Cc: "Camilla Barlow" <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:33 AM > > Subject: LDS file of SL microfilms of Ceylon > > > > > > > Hello Christopher and Camilla, > > > I saw the correspondence just now, attached is the SL list in excel > > > for all the films in the LDS library. I got so tangled up in their > > > many windows I decided to make a list, there are 4232 film titles. > > > > > > After you have downloaded the excel file into your computer, leave the > > > internet on - click on one of the blue lines of the file, it will > > > bring you automatically to the LDS site and to the written information > > > pertaining to the microfilm. > > > Again this is not the genealogy information but it is the file name > > > and number so that you can order it for viewing in whatever city you > > > are living. Your local LDS has to order it from Salt Lake city, Utah, > > > USA. > > > When you want to go back to the excel file you either press on the top > > > left corner BACK, or you on the bottom bar of your screen you press on > > > your excell file tab and you are back into the file. > > > > > > the LDS has many centers around the world, look up if they have a > > > center in the city where you live - IF they do have a > > > center there or close(!) by, call them and tell them you want to order > > > micro films and what is the procedure. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jennifer > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Jennifer, I work here at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. If you can pinpoint the film you need, I would be happy to crank it. I don't have a lot of time to do the research end but can snatch some time to look at a film for you. Just let me know - no time limit - in fact, I'm in school right now so later would be better for me. Also, on www.nationalarchives.gov.uk in "Search archives" and then "The Catalogue", search your soldier's name and WO97 as the entire database for WO97 is on the web. From that reference, I may be able to find a film here for you as well unless you have all his soldiering information already. Margo >>> "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> 4/9/2007 2:31 PM >>> Hi Camilla, I wish that I had the LDS library here in Israel but they dont have a center here and so I cannot order the films, besides their pages were difficult to follow for me as they are listed in in different subjects or listings, that is why I made the file. Strange, I have the whole excel file in the computer and all the lines which are in blue go automatically to the LDS page of that file and back again when I click on "back". I have to check out what is going on, thanks for telling me. regards, Jennifer On 09/04/07, Camilla Barlow <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> wrote: > Goodness me! This is a hard way to go. By the way it doesn't take you back > to the LDS library. Surely it is easier to go to the Library yourself and > search for what you want. > I didn't reply on my behalf. I was trying to help Christopher. I am very > familiar with the LDS and Sri Lanka research. > Camilla > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> > To: <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > Cc: "Camilla Barlow" <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:33 AM > Subject: LDS file of SL microfilms of Ceylon > > > > Hello Christopher and Camilla, > > I saw the correspondence just now, attached is the SL list in excel > > for all the films in the LDS library. I got so tangled up in their > > many windows I decided to make a list, there are 4232 film titles. > > > > After you have downloaded the excel file into your computer, leave the > > internet on - click on one of the blue lines of the file, it will > > bring you automatically to the LDS site and to the written information > > pertaining to the microfilm. > > Again this is not the genealogy information but it is the file name > > and number so that you can order it for viewing in whatever city you > > are living. Your local LDS has to order it from Salt Lake city, Utah, > > USA. > > When you want to go back to the excel file you either press on the top > > left corner BACK, or you on the bottom bar of your screen you press on > > your excell file tab and you are back into the file. > > > > the LDS has many centers around the world, look up if they have a > > center in the city where you live - IF they do have a > > center there or close(!) by, call them and tell them you want to order > > micro films and what is the procedure. > > > > Regards, > > Jennifer > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Hi Camilla, I wish that I had the LDS library here in Israel but they dont have a center here and so I cannot order the films, besides their pages were difficult to follow for me as they are listed in in different subjects or listings, that is why I made the file. Strange, I have the whole excel file in the computer and all the lines which are in blue go automatically to the LDS page of that file and back again when I click on "back". I have to check out what is going on, thanks for telling me. regards, Jennifer On 09/04/07, Camilla Barlow <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> wrote: > Goodness me! This is a hard way to go. By the way it doesn't take you back > to the LDS library. Surely it is easier to go to the Library yourself and > search for what you want. > I didn't reply on my behalf. I was trying to help Christopher. I am very > familiar with the LDS and Sri Lanka research. > Camilla > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> > To: <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > Cc: "Camilla Barlow" <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:33 AM > Subject: LDS file of SL microfilms of Ceylon > > > > Hello Christopher and Camilla, > > I saw the correspondence just now, attached is the SL list in excel > > for all the films in the LDS library. I got so tangled up in their > > many windows I decided to make a list, there are 4232 film titles. > > > > After you have downloaded the excel file into your computer, leave the > > internet on - click on one of the blue lines of the file, it will > > bring you automatically to the LDS site and to the written information > > pertaining to the microfilm. > > Again this is not the genealogy information but it is the file name > > and number so that you can order it for viewing in whatever city you > > are living. Your local LDS has to order it from Salt Lake city, Utah, > > USA. > > When you want to go back to the excel file you either press on the top > > left corner BACK, or you on the bottom bar of your screen you press on > > your excell file tab and you are back into the file. > > > > the LDS has many centers around the world, look up if they have a > > center in the city where you live - IF they do have a > > center there or close(!) by, call them and tell them you want to order > > micro films and what is the procedure. > > > > Regards, > > Jennifer > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Goodness me! This is a hard way to go. By the way it doesn't take you back to the LDS library. Surely it is easier to go to the Library yourself and search for what you want. I didn't reply on my behalf. I was trying to help Christopher. I am very familiar with the LDS and Sri Lanka research. Camilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer van der Greft" <jennifergreft@gmail.com> To: <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> Cc: "Camilla Barlow" <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:33 AM Subject: LDS file of SL microfilms of Ceylon > Hello Christopher and Camilla, > I saw the correspondence just now, attached is the SL list in excel > for all the films in the LDS library. I got so tangled up in their > many windows I decided to make a list, there are 4232 film titles. > > After you have downloaded the excel file into your computer, leave the > internet on - click on one of the blue lines of the file, it will > bring you automatically to the LDS site and to the written information > pertaining to the microfilm. > Again this is not the genealogy information but it is the file name > and number so that you can order it for viewing in whatever city you > are living. Your local LDS has to order it from Salt Lake city, Utah, > USA. > When you want to go back to the excel file you either press on the top > left corner BACK, or you on the bottom bar of your screen you press on > your excell file tab and you are back into the file. > > the LDS has many centers around the world, look up if they have a > center in the city where you live - IF they do have a > center there or close(!) by, call them and tell them you want to order > micro films and what is the procedure. > > Regards, > Jennifer >

One last shot from me Chris, Have you visited this site...or joined the India List??. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~clday/index.html Best of Luck.. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > Gay, > > Thanks again. Yes, the Ionian islands records are amongst the military, > overseas, and other miscellaneous records at the GRO. > Unfortunatley, Mary died in India in 1852 and is buried there! > The fact that there is no mention of his marriage on his WO97 is further > evidence, I think, that he was already married. > I will keep digging. > > Thanks again > > Chris > > Thanks again > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > >> Hi Chris, >> Fortunately, you live in Britain, where most of the records are so much > more >> accessible than they are for List members such as myself (Australia) and >> others from various other countries. >> I am glad you have the WO97 for your ggrandfather...such an invaluable >> document for your family history...Apparently it does not show a >> marriage. >> My soldier ancestor enlisted earlier than yours and his Marriage is noted > on >> his WO97., but I believe his marriage was "'with permission" . >> Perhaps your marriage (if there was one during service) was without >> permission and therefore would not have been noted. >> You have said the Ionian Islands have their own BMDs, however I am quite >> sure , when I was searching for my own records...I have seen on the index >> for Army Chaplains BMDs for Stations Abroad, some records for Ionia..but >> I >> could be wrong. >> I suppose you have checked to see whether the 1861 Census or the 1871 or >> any, show the birthplace of Mary. >> Apart from those avenues, I am at a loss. >> Gay >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> >> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD >> >> >> > Gay, >> > >> > Thank you very much for replying. Unfortunately I suspect they married > in >> > this country (UK). >> > Richard joined the regiment on 11th December 1830 (aged 23), and was >> > immediately sent to the Ionian islands (where the regiment was >> > stationed >> > at >> > that time). In February 1832 the regiment returned to England. There >> > is > a >> > child (George) born in Manchester (when the regiment was stationed > there) >> > in >> > 1834. (i.e. just before BMD registration started - so there is only a >> > baptism entry and these rarely state mother's maiden surname!) >> > In November 1836 the regiment embarks for Ceylon! >> > >> > Ergo I would say that the marriage took place in the UK (or possibly >> > the >> > Ionian islands - but they have their own BMD records and I can't find a >> > marriage!) >> > >> > The baptism record for the child of the 'other' Richard Ford, at >> > Trincomalee, gives the parent's marriage details, not just the mother's >> > maiden name. They married in London (Hampstead). >> > Of the other possibilities I have found on the IGI, I strongly suspect > the >> > one at Chatham (in 1829), but of course, ! can't prove it! >> > >> > The WO entry that you refer to is my gg-grandfather, and I already have > a >> > copy of this entry! >> > >> > Thank you for taking the time to reply! >> > >> > Best wishes >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> >> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:48 PM >> > Subject: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD >> > >> > >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably >> >> know >> >> about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. >> >> Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard >> >> FORDs), >> >> may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... >> >> My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my >> >> Ancestor >> > show >> >> only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the >> >> Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) >> >> >> >> Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, >> >> shows > >> > that >> >> 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish > Regiment.. >> >> There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish >> >> Regiment, at the GRO. >> >> >> >> The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, > London >> > and >> >> Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. >> >> >> >> Happy Easter >> >> Gay >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> >> >> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) >> >> >> >> >> >> > Everybody/Anybody, >> >> > >> >> > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any >> >> > advice/assistance: >> >> > >> >> > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an >> >> > Armourer >> >> > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in > the >> >> > late >> >> > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with > him >> >> > (this >> >> > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. >> >> > I >> >> > would >> >> > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I >> > have >> >> > is >> >> > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of >> >> > marriages >> >> > on >> >> > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right >> >> > time, >> >> > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, >> >> > without >> >> > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct >> >> > one. >> >> > >> >> > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard > Ford >> > in >> >> > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was >> > also >> >> > a >> >> > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). >> >> > >> >> > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary >> >> > had >> > a >> >> > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I > have >> >> > the >> >> > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, >> >> > this >> >> > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate >> >> > and >> > does >> >> > not give the mother's maiden surname! >> >> > >> >> > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo >> > which >> >> > might just mention Mary's maiden name? >> >> > >> >> > All suggestions gratefully received! >> >> > >> >> > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to >> >> > plain >> >> > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's >> >> > maiden >> >> > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard > Ford! >> >> > >> >> > Thank you >> >> > >> >> > Chris Merry >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> >> >> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM >> >> > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Friends/Colleagues: >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a >> > sergeant >> >> > in >> >> >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre > resources >> > I >> >> >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been >> >> >> able >> >> >> to >> >> > find >> >> >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil >> >> >> Service, >> >> >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as >> > having >> >> >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the > father >> > (or >> >> >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? >> >> >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> >> >> Glen, >> >> >> In Our Dominion of the North >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> > the >> >> > quotes >> >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> > the >> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Camilla, Thanks, Yes, that's something 'on the list' to do! Of ourse, I'm going to have to work backwards looking for a marriage in all the places the regiment was stationed. They moved around quite a bit! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Camilla Barlow <ceebee123@swiftdsl.com.au> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > Hi > Why don't you try for the marriage certificate in the LDS films of > Manchester. If you know the area or church it should not be too difficult. > If they married in Ceylon that makes it difficult if not impossible. Just > find your nearest LDS centre and they will help you. All the information is > available at www.familysearch.com > You need to go to the Library section to find the film number. You will be > able to get a baptism certificate as well. > Regards Camilla > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:50 AM > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > > > Gay, > > > > Thank you very much for replying. Unfortunately I suspect they married in > > this country (UK). > > Richard joined the regiment on 11th December 1830 (aged 23), and was > > immediately sent to the Ionian islands (where the regiment was stationed > > at > > that time). In February 1832 the regiment returned to England. There is a > > child (George) born in Manchester (when the regiment was stationed there) > > in > > 1834. (i.e. just before BMD registration started - so there is only a > > baptism entry and these rarely state mother's maiden surname!) > > In November 1836 the regiment embarks for Ceylon! > > > > Ergo I would say that the marriage took place in the UK (or possibly the > > Ionian islands - but they have their own BMD records and I can't find a > > marriage!) > > > > The baptism record for the child of the 'other' Richard Ford, at > > Trincomalee, gives the parent's marriage details, not just the mother's > > maiden name. They married in London (Hampstead). > > Of the other possibilities I have found on the IGI, I strongly suspect the > > one at Chatham (in 1829), but of course, ! can't prove it! > > > > The WO entry that you refer to is my gg-grandfather, and I already have a > > copy of this entry! > > > > Thank you for taking the time to reply! > > > > Best wishes > > > > Chris > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> > > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:48 PM > > Subject: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > > > > >> Hi Chris, > >> If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably > >> know > >> about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. > >> Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard > >> FORDs), > >> may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... > >> My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my Ancestor > > show > >> only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the > >> Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) > >> > >> Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, shows > > that > >> 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish Regiment.. > >> There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish > >> Regiment, at the GRO. > >> > >> The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, London > > and > >> Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. > >> > >> Happy Easter > >> Gay > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > >> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > >> > >> > >> > Everybody/Anybody, > >> > > >> > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any > >> > advice/assistance: > >> > > >> > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer > >> > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the > >> > late > >> > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him > >> > (this > >> > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I > >> > would > >> > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I > > have > >> > is > >> > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of > >> > marriages > >> > on > >> > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right > >> > time, > >> > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, > >> > without > >> > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. > >> > > >> > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford > > in > >> > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was > > also > >> > a > >> > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). > >> > > >> > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary > >> > had > > a > >> > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have > >> > the > >> > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, > >> > this > >> > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and > > does > >> > not give the mother's maiden surname! > >> > > >> > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo > > which > >> > might just mention Mary's maiden name? > >> > > >> > All suggestions gratefully received! > >> > > >> > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to > >> > plain > >> > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's > >> > maiden > >> > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! > >> > > >> > Thank you > >> > > >> > Chris Merry > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> > >> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM > >> > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > >> > > >> > > >> >> Friends/Colleagues: > >> >> > >> >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a > > sergeant > >> > in > >> >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources > > I > >> >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able > >> >> to > >> > find > >> >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil > >> >> Service, > >> >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as > > having > >> >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father > > (or > >> >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? > >> >> > >> >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? > >> >> > >> >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> > >> >> Glen, > >> >> In Our Dominion of the North > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes > >> > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gay, Thanks again. Yes, the Ionian islands records are amongst the military, overseas, and other miscellaneous records at the GRO. Unfortunatley, Mary died in India in 1852 and is buried there! The fact that there is no mention of his marriage on his WO97 is further evidence, I think, that he was already married. I will keep digging. Thanks again Chris Thanks again ----- Original Message ----- From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > Hi Chris, > Fortunately, you live in Britain, where most of the records are so much more > accessible than they are for List members such as myself (Australia) and > others from various other countries. > I am glad you have the WO97 for your ggrandfather...such an invaluable > document for your family history...Apparently it does not show a marriage. > My soldier ancestor enlisted earlier than yours and his Marriage is noted on > his WO97., but I believe his marriage was "'with permission" . > Perhaps your marriage (if there was one during service) was without > permission and therefore would not have been noted. > You have said the Ionian Islands have their own BMDs, however I am quite > sure , when I was searching for my own records...I have seen on the index > for Army Chaplains BMDs for Stations Abroad, some records for Ionia..but I > could be wrong. > I suppose you have checked to see whether the 1861 Census or the 1871 or > any, show the birthplace of Mary. > Apart from those avenues, I am at a loss. > Gay > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:50 AM > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > > > Gay, > > > > Thank you very much for replying. Unfortunately I suspect they married in > > this country (UK). > > Richard joined the regiment on 11th December 1830 (aged 23), and was > > immediately sent to the Ionian islands (where the regiment was stationed > > at > > that time). In February 1832 the regiment returned to England. There is a > > child (George) born in Manchester (when the regiment was stationed there) > > in > > 1834. (i.e. just before BMD registration started - so there is only a > > baptism entry and these rarely state mother's maiden surname!) > > In November 1836 the regiment embarks for Ceylon! > > > > Ergo I would say that the marriage took place in the UK (or possibly the > > Ionian islands - but they have their own BMD records and I can't find a > > marriage!) > > > > The baptism record for the child of the 'other' Richard Ford, at > > Trincomalee, gives the parent's marriage details, not just the mother's > > maiden name. They married in London (Hampstead). > > Of the other possibilities I have found on the IGI, I strongly suspect the > > one at Chatham (in 1829), but of course, ! can't prove it! > > > > The WO entry that you refer to is my gg-grandfather, and I already have a > > copy of this entry! > > > > Thank you for taking the time to reply! > > > > Best wishes > > > > Chris > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> > > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:48 PM > > Subject: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > > > > >> Hi Chris, > >> If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably > >> know > >> about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. > >> Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard > >> FORDs), > >> may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... > >> My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my Ancestor > > show > >> only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the > >> Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) > >> > >> Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, shows > > that > >> 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish Regiment.. > >> There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish > >> Regiment, at the GRO. > >> > >> The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, London > > and > >> Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. > >> > >> Happy Easter > >> Gay > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > >> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > >> > >> > >> > Everybody/Anybody, > >> > > >> > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any > >> > advice/assistance: > >> > > >> > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer > >> > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the > >> > late > >> > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him > >> > (this > >> > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I > >> > would > >> > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I > > have > >> > is > >> > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of > >> > marriages > >> > on > >> > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right > >> > time, > >> > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, > >> > without > >> > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. > >> > > >> > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford > > in > >> > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was > > also > >> > a > >> > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). > >> > > >> > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary > >> > had > > a > >> > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have > >> > the > >> > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, > >> > this > >> > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and > > does > >> > not give the mother's maiden surname! > >> > > >> > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo > > which > >> > might just mention Mary's maiden name? > >> > > >> > All suggestions gratefully received! > >> > > >> > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to > >> > plain > >> > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's > >> > maiden > >> > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! > >> > > >> > Thank you > >> > > >> > Chris Merry > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> > >> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM > >> > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > >> > > >> > > >> >> Friends/Colleagues: > >> >> > >> >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a > > sergeant > >> > in > >> >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources > > I > >> >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able > >> >> to > >> > find > >> >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil > >> >> Service, > >> >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as > > having > >> >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father > > (or > >> >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? > >> >> > >> >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? > >> >> > >> >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> > >> >> Glen, > >> >> In Our Dominion of the North > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes > >> > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Why don't you try for the marriage certificate in the LDS films of Manchester. If you know the area or church it should not be too difficult. If they married in Ceylon that makes it difficult if not impossible. Just find your nearest LDS centre and they will help you. All the information is available at www.familysearch.com You need to go to the Library section to find the film number. You will be able to get a baptism certificate as well. Regards Camilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > Gay, > > Thank you very much for replying. Unfortunately I suspect they married in > this country (UK). > Richard joined the regiment on 11th December 1830 (aged 23), and was > immediately sent to the Ionian islands (where the regiment was stationed > at > that time). In February 1832 the regiment returned to England. There is a > child (George) born in Manchester (when the regiment was stationed there) > in > 1834. (i.e. just before BMD registration started - so there is only a > baptism entry and these rarely state mother's maiden surname!) > In November 1836 the regiment embarks for Ceylon! > > Ergo I would say that the marriage took place in the UK (or possibly the > Ionian islands - but they have their own BMD records and I can't find a > marriage!) > > The baptism record for the child of the 'other' Richard Ford, at > Trincomalee, gives the parent's marriage details, not just the mother's > maiden name. They married in London (Hampstead). > Of the other possibilities I have found on the IGI, I strongly suspect the > one at Chatham (in 1829), but of course, ! can't prove it! > > The WO entry that you refer to is my gg-grandfather, and I already have a > copy of this entry! > > Thank you for taking the time to reply! > > Best wishes > > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:48 PM > Subject: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > >> Hi Chris, >> If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably >> know >> about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. >> Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard >> FORDs), >> may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... >> My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my Ancestor > show >> only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the >> Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) >> >> Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, shows > that >> 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish Regiment.. >> There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish >> Regiment, at the GRO. >> >> The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, London > and >> Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. >> >> Happy Easter >> Gay >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> >> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) >> >> >> > Everybody/Anybody, >> > >> > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any >> > advice/assistance: >> > >> > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer >> > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the >> > late >> > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him >> > (this >> > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I >> > would >> > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I > have >> > is >> > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of >> > marriages >> > on >> > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right >> > time, >> > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, >> > without >> > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. >> > >> > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford > in >> > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was > also >> > a >> > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). >> > >> > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary >> > had > a >> > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have >> > the >> > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, >> > this >> > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and > does >> > not give the mother's maiden surname! >> > >> > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo > which >> > might just mention Mary's maiden name? >> > >> > All suggestions gratefully received! >> > >> > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to >> > plain >> > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's >> > maiden >> > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! >> > >> > Thank you >> > >> > Chris Merry >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> >> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM >> > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) >> > >> > >> >> Friends/Colleagues: >> >> >> >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a > sergeant >> > in >> >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources > I >> >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able >> >> to >> > find >> >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil >> >> Service, >> >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as > having >> >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father > (or >> >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? >> >> >> >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Glen, >> >> In Our Dominion of the North >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Chris, Fortunately, you live in Britain, where most of the records are so much more accessible than they are for List members such as myself (Australia) and others from various other countries. I am glad you have the WO97 for your ggrandfather...such an invaluable document for your family history...Apparently it does not show a marriage. My soldier ancestor enlisted earlier than yours and his Marriage is noted on his WO97., but I believe his marriage was "'with permission" . Perhaps your marriage (if there was one during service) was without permission and therefore would not have been noted. You have said the Ionian Islands have their own BMDs, however I am quite sure , when I was searching for my own records...I have seen on the index for Army Chaplains BMDs for Stations Abroad, some records for Ionia..but I could be wrong. I suppose you have checked to see whether the 1861 Census or the 1871 or any, show the birthplace of Mary. Apart from those avenues, I am at a loss. Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > Gay, > > Thank you very much for replying. Unfortunately I suspect they married in > this country (UK). > Richard joined the regiment on 11th December 1830 (aged 23), and was > immediately sent to the Ionian islands (where the regiment was stationed > at > that time). In February 1832 the regiment returned to England. There is a > child (George) born in Manchester (when the regiment was stationed there) > in > 1834. (i.e. just before BMD registration started - so there is only a > baptism entry and these rarely state mother's maiden surname!) > In November 1836 the regiment embarks for Ceylon! > > Ergo I would say that the marriage took place in the UK (or possibly the > Ionian islands - but they have their own BMD records and I can't find a > marriage!) > > The baptism record for the child of the 'other' Richard Ford, at > Trincomalee, gives the parent's marriage details, not just the mother's > maiden name. They married in London (Hampstead). > Of the other possibilities I have found on the IGI, I strongly suspect the > one at Chatham (in 1829), but of course, ! can't prove it! > > The WO entry that you refer to is my gg-grandfather, and I already have a > copy of this entry! > > Thank you for taking the time to reply! > > Best wishes > > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:48 PM > Subject: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > > >> Hi Chris, >> If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably >> know >> about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. >> Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard >> FORDs), >> may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... >> My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my Ancestor > show >> only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the >> Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) >> >> Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, shows > that >> 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish Regiment.. >> There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish >> Regiment, at the GRO. >> >> The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, London > and >> Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. >> >> Happy Easter >> Gay >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> >> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) >> >> >> > Everybody/Anybody, >> > >> > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any >> > advice/assistance: >> > >> > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer >> > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the >> > late >> > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him >> > (this >> > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I >> > would >> > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I > have >> > is >> > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of >> > marriages >> > on >> > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right >> > time, >> > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, >> > without >> > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. >> > >> > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford > in >> > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was > also >> > a >> > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). >> > >> > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary >> > had > a >> > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have >> > the >> > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, >> > this >> > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and > does >> > not give the mother's maiden surname! >> > >> > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo > which >> > might just mention Mary's maiden name? >> > >> > All suggestions gratefully received! >> > >> > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to >> > plain >> > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's >> > maiden >> > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! >> > >> > Thank you >> > >> > Chris Merry >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> >> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM >> > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) >> > >> > >> >> Friends/Colleagues: >> >> >> >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a > sergeant >> > in >> >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources > I >> >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able >> >> to >> > find >> >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil >> >> Service, >> >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as > having >> >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father > (or >> >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? >> >> >> >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Glen, >> >> In Our Dominion of the North >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Chris, If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably know about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard FORDs), may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my Ancestor show only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, shows that 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish Regiment.. There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish Regiment, at the GRO. The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, London and Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. Happy Easter Gay ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > Everybody/Anybody, > > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any > advice/assistance: > > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the > late > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him > (this > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I > would > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I have > is > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of marriages > on > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right time, > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, > without > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. > > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford in > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was also > a > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). > > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary had a > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have > the > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, this > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and does > not give the mother's maiden surname! > > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo which > might just mention Mary's maiden name? > > All suggestions gratefully received! > > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to plain > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's maiden > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! > > Thank you > > Chris Merry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > > >> Friends/Colleagues: >> >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a sergeant > in >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources I >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able to > find >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil >> Service, >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as having >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father (or >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? >> >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? >> >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Glen, >> In Our Dominion of the North >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Gay, Thank you very much for replying. Unfortunately I suspect they married in this country (UK). Richard joined the regiment on 11th December 1830 (aged 23), and was immediately sent to the Ionian islands (where the regiment was stationed at that time). In February 1832 the regiment returned to England. There is a child (George) born in Manchester (when the regiment was stationed there) in 1834. (i.e. just before BMD registration started - so there is only a baptism entry and these rarely state mother's maiden surname!) In November 1836 the regiment embarks for Ceylon! Ergo I would say that the marriage took place in the UK (or possibly the Ionian islands - but they have their own BMD records and I can't find a marriage!) The baptism record for the child of the 'other' Richard Ford, at Trincomalee, gives the parent's marriage details, not just the mother's maiden name. They married in London (Hampstead). Of the other possibilities I have found on the IGI, I strongly suspect the one at Chatham (in 1829), but of course, ! can't prove it! The WO entry that you refer to is my gg-grandfather, and I already have a copy of this entry! Thank you for taking the time to reply! Best wishes Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: [SRILANKA] Richard FORD > Hi Chris, > If you know about the Army births at the GRO, then you most probably know > about the Army Marriages at GRO, by Army Chaplains at Stations Abroad. > Getting the marriage Certificate (perhaps for each of the Richard FORDs), > may be the only way to find out what Mary's surname may be... > My Army births at the GRO Certificates for the children of my Ancestor show > only the name of the father and first name of the mother... but the > Marriage Certificate shows her full name..(but nothing else about her) > > Perhaps this may be useful to you, The website www.regiments.org, shows that > 11th Regiment of Foot is the Numeric title for The Royal Irish Regiment.. > There is One surviving record for a Richard Ford of the Royal Irish > Regiment, at the GRO. > > The piece Number is WO 97/387/20 for RICHARD FORD Born STEPNEY, London and > Middlesex Served in 18th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 47. > > Happy Easter > Gay > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > > > > Everybody/Anybody, > > > > I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any > > advice/assistance: > > > > I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer > > Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the > > late > > 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him > > (this > > was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I > > would > > like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I have > > is > > that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of marriages > > on > > the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right time, > > including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, > > without > > knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. > > > > To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford in > > the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was also > > a > > sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). > > > > One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary had a > > son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have > > the > > birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, this > > certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and does > > not give the mother's maiden surname! > > > > I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo which > > might just mention Mary's maiden name? > > > > All suggestions gratefully received! > > > > I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to plain > > 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's maiden > > name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! > > > > Thank you > > > > Chris Merry > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> > > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM > > Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > > > > > >> Friends/Colleagues: > >> > >> I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a sergeant > > in > >> the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources I > >> have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able to > > find > >> is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil > >> Service, > >> (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as having > >> been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father (or > >> uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? > >> > >> Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? > >> > >> Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Glen, > >> In Our Dominion of the North > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Everybody/Anybody, I have hit a stumbling block and I would be grateful for any advice/assistance: I have a great-great grandfather - Richard FORD - who was an Armourer Sergeant in the Royal Irish Regiment. He was stationed in Ceylon in the late 1830's for a couple of years. He appears to have had his wife with him (this was not uncommon apparently!). I know that her first name was Mary. I would like to research her line of ancestry back further but the problem I have is that I don't know her maiden surname. I have found a number of marriages on the IGI between a Richard Ford and a Mary ????, at about the right time, including one in Chatham ,Kent (which is where he sailed from), but, without knowing Mary's maiden surname, I can't be certain of the correct one. To complicate matters further there appears to be another Richard Ford in the regiment at at his time who was also married to a Mary!!! He was also a sergeant (although just a plain sergeant). One piece of positive information I have is that my Richard and Mary had a son - Richard John Ford - , born in Colombo on August 23rd 1837. I have the birth certificate (from the Army births at the GRO). Frustratingly, this certificate is different from the usual English birth certificate and does not give the mother's maiden surname! I was wondering if there might be a record of his baptism in Colombo which might just mention Mary's maiden name? All suggestions gratefully received! I should add that I also have the baptism record for a daughter to plain 'Sergeant' Richard Ford, in Trincomalee, which gives the mother's maiden name, but I am reasonably certain that this is the other Richard Ford! Thank you Chris Merry ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Hodgins <glen.hodgins@sympatico.ca> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 4:27 PM Subject: [SRILANKA] Sergeant R.R. Belleth, Ceylon Police (1950s) > Friends/Colleagues: > > I'm looking for any help in learning more about R.R. Belleth, a sergeant in > the Ceylon Police in the 1950s. I've checked out the meagre resources I > have, (a few post-war Ferguson's Directories) and all I've been able to find > is a "B. Belleth", listed as a retired member of the Ceylon Civil Service, > (and most probably a distinguished one, since he is also listed as having > been awarded the Imperial Service Order). Perhaps "B." is the father (or > uncle?) of the chappie I'm interested in -- "R.R." ? > > Am I correct in assuming Belleth is a Burger name? > > Any thoughts or leads greatly appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Glen, > In Our Dominion of the North > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jane I am sorry to disappoint you but as "Ceylon" was an English colony the BDM's are in Sri Lanka. Church records are probably a bit easier to access, not much though. The GRO in England only has BDM's when they had diplomatic relations with a country. I was in Sri Lanka in 2005. I found some Church records. I was told they would send me copies. I left self addressed envelope, more money than requested and in spite of 2 letters I am still waiting for my copies. Unfortunately my camera was broken so was unable to take pics. Regards Camilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic" <victorj@sympatico.ca> To: <rozmccutcheon@lineone.net>; <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Dutch Reformed Church records >I do not know about the Dutch Reform Church or Baptist Church but here is a > thought based on the Church of England. My Great Grandfather was a > minister > who worked for the Church Missionary Society and was posted to Ceylon. The > Church Missionary Society has archived all their data; annual reports and > personal data at Birmingham University and I was able to contact the > archivist there and get copies for a minimal price.........she even > digitally took pictures of the book that held a few of his annual reports. > This also included his application to the Missionary Society and letters > written on his behalf as reference, and the exam he wrote to enter the > school of theology. All in his own hand! > > My thinking is, if all these records have been kept by the Church of > England > and archived in England, perhaps the other churches also kept records. I > went to the Church of England web site, went to the contact us section and > posed my questions. Surely the other churches have web sites: > So Dutch Reformed has changed with time but perhaps this history will tell > where to look for records, or where they may be archives in Holland: > Dutch Reformed Church - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > The Dutch Reformed Church was the main successor to the congregations > which came into ... The Dutch Reformed Church remained the largest church > body in the ... > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Reformed_Church - 29k - Cached - Similar > pages > > > This one gives contact info for Christian Churchs in Sri Lanka: > Sri Lanka Christian > Baptist Church - Dharmapla Mawatha, Sri Lanka - 713890 Catholic St. > Lawrence's Church - 581549 St Mary's Church - 588745 St Philip Neri's > Church - 421367 ... > across.co.nz/SriLankaChristian.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages > > > .........and here is another thought. If you cannot find the one you are > looking for, perhaps you can ask one of the other churches that does > provide > Email contact info to help you make contact with the other church. In most > cases I have found the church secretaries are wonderful at > helping.......the > vicars themselves are often too busy! At least they offer advise as to > where > one might go for assistance. > > My relatives were mostly British Civil Servants so I am hoping that BMD > were > registered in England. Fingers crossed. > Hope this helps > Jane > -- Original Message ----- > From: <rozmccutcheon@lineone.net> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:47 AM > Subject: [SRILANKA] Dutch Reformed Church records > > >> While on the subject just raised by Peter Goggin, - can I raise the >> same query for Baptist Church records? >> >> Cheers, Roz McCutcheon >> >> >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Broadband only £9.99 a month for your first 3 months! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Gay Thanks a million for all the mountains of information - even if what Christopher Merry said may be true, there are some sources which might overlap with Ceylon. At least I hope so! Anyway the basic info about how to attack the LDS is v useful, I am planning to visit them next week. Georgina

Thanks Chris, > Ceylon was never part of the HEIC > 'empire', it was 'ruled' by the Colonial office and all their records are > at > the National Archives at Kew! That is interesting to know... I know very little about the army in Ceylon...I thought the information I sent may help Georgina...so if you can explain anything else, it would be helpful please.. Cheers Gay Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/fie01.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher.merry" <christopher.merry@ntlworld.com> To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Honourable East India Company > Gay, > > I have recently been to the British Library a few times, looking for > records > of my great-great grandfather, who was in the Royal Irish Regiment in > India > (before the mutiny). also for his father, who was employed by the HEIC in > London! > > I managed to find quite a lot of information. However, a lot of HEIC > records > were destroyed when they ceased to be, in 1860! > > The staff are very helpful. However, Ceylon was never part of the HEIC > 'empire', it was 'ruled' by the Colonial office and all their records are > at > the National Archives at Kew! > > Chris Merry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gay Fielding <gayze@tpg.com.au> > To: <srilanka@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:31 PM > Subject: [SRILANKA] Honourable East India Company > > >> Again here is some saved information which I thought at the time may have >> been useful to me....Some of the links may now be out of >> date..________________________________________________________________ >> The >> Honourable East India Company originally had its own army. After the > Indian >> Mutiny of 1857, loyal elements, both European and Indian regiments, >> became >> the Indian Army. This was managed quite separately from the British Army > in >> India. Most of the HEIC and Indian Army records, including records of >> births marriages and deaths, are in the India Office archives, but there > are >> some military records in the PRO at Kew. The records of the Army of the > HEIC >> to 1857, the Indian Army from 1857 to 1947 and the Indian Civil Service >> of >> the same period are archived in the British Library Oriental and India >> Office Collections. These are now found in the main British Library site > at >> St Pancras. You can find out more about the Library and its collections >> on >> their website: http://www.bl.uk/ For information on East India Company > army >> and Indian Army records at the British Library; see: >> http://www.bl.uk/collections/oriental/records/overview.html/and: >> http://www.bl.uk/collections/oriental/records/iorarrgt.html#LMILHead The >> British Library have published a very useful book "India Office Library > and >> Records - A Brief Guide to Biographical Sources"' by Ian A Baxter, 2nd >> Edition published 1990; ISBN 0 7123 0637 4. There is also quite a good >> section of records relating to India, including the HEIC, in the Society > of >> Genealogists Library. You may also find it useful to visit some of these >> HEIC and British in India Related Web Sites: a) Alex Glendinning's Home > Page >> on http://user.itl.net/~glen/asianintro.html b) Asian Studies WWW Virtual >> Library on http://iias.leidenuniv.nl/wwwvl/southeast.html c) British >> Ancestors in India on http://www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/index.htmlAmong > other >> things, it gives you a list of the LDS film numbers for BDM in the three >> presidencies in Colonial India. Also has links to information of some >> British Army regiments serving in India. d) The East India Company on >> http://www.theeastindiacompany.com/history.html e) National Archives of >> Singapore on http://www.museum.org.sg/nas/nas.html f) Barney > Tyrwitt-Drake's >> home page on http://www.tdrake.demon.co.uk/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Along with Peter and the others.... I am interested in the existence of any Wesleyan o Presbyterian churches in Ceylon in the late 1800s. Cheers Gay Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/fie01.html

Again here is some saved information which I thought at the time may have been useful to me....Some of the links may now be out of date..________________________________________________________________ The Honourable East India Company originally had its own army. After the Indian Mutiny of 1857, loyal elements, both European and Indian regiments, became the Indian Army. This was managed quite separately from the British Army in India. Most of the HEIC and Indian Army records, including records of births marriages and deaths, are in the India Office archives, but there are some military records in the PRO at Kew. The records of the Army of the HEIC to 1857, the Indian Army from 1857 to 1947 and the Indian Civil Service of the same period are archived in the British Library Oriental and India Office Collections. These are now found in the main British Library site at St Pancras. You can find out more about the Library and its collections on their website: http://www.bl.uk/ For information on East India Company army and Indian Army records at the British Library; see: http://www.bl.uk/collections/oriental/records/overview.html/and: http://www.bl.uk/collections/oriental/records/iorarrgt.html#LMILHead The British Library have published a very useful book "India Office Library and Records - A Brief Guide to Biographical Sources"' by Ian A Baxter, 2nd Edition published 1990; ISBN 0 7123 0637 4. There is also quite a good section of records relating to India, including the HEIC, in the Society of Genealogists Library. You may also find it useful to visit some of these HEIC and British in India Related Web Sites: a) Alex Glendinning's Home Page on http://user.itl.net/~glen/asianintro.html b) Asian Studies WWW Virtual Library on http://iias.leidenuniv.nl/wwwvl/southeast.html c) British Ancestors in India on http://www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/index.htmlAmong other things, it gives you a list of the LDS film numbers for BDM in the three presidencies in Colonial India. Also has links to information of some British Army regiments serving in India. d) The East India Company on http://www.theeastindiacompany.com/history.html e) National Archives of Singapore on http://www.museum.org.sg/nas/nas.html f) Barney Tyrwitt-Drake's home page on http://www.tdrake.demon.co.uk/