Hi gang, About the 2 George Spences: From that chart on the Bluford line that Claire compiled. there were 2 George Spences. One or both may have died in the Civil War era. The first one is on page # 2 of the New Spence chart, a son of William Spence and Jane Tuttle Spence. The chart indicates that George was born in 1825 and a ? indicates his death in CSA. On page # 3 of the chart see another George born 1823 and again ? and CSA. This George was a son of James Spence & Betsy Tuttle Spence. It looks as if these George's were 1st cousins. In fact double first cousins ! As to Washington Co, VA, Jane Spence, sister to the above William and James, married her husband George Burkett in 1821 in Washington Co. VA. John Mallon says that the George in his line ( James & Betsy Spence) from family notes died in Libby Prison in 1861 and was born in 1823 in Washington Co. VA. So it seems that we can add a death date to that George of 1861 on page # 3 of the chart. ( See, I told you that you would need white-out from time to time ! ) Now , as to the son of William & Jane on page 2, Mary Anne's posting of the service records indicates that this George was present on 6 /1862 and served until released as a POW on 6/21/1865. We don't have any descendants that we know of, so either he died, or never came back home, or we haven't been contacted by his desc. yet. If this George was in Elmira Prison Camp he possibly could have been there at the same time as his cousin Martha Spence Cornwell's husband Nathan Cornwell. Question for the guys who are Civil War buffs ..... Was Libby Prison in fact a prison for UNION officers ? If so, we have cousins, one Union, one Confederate. ****************************************************** Please be on the lookout for 2 people I am trying to locate that may belong in our group. Dakota Holt is researching Burwell Spence. Every time I find her, her e-mail address has been changed. There was a Spence girl in my line who married a Holt and I think Dakota descends from that line. Kathy Dietz asked me about a Johnson McKinley Spence who had a son named Sedrick in Pulaski Co VA. She didn't give me any dates, and I noticed that she had a webtv address. I deleted her message, checked my files, and typed her a message to give me some dates, and wouldn't you know I don't have her e- mail address. 2 webtv addresses I sent it to, came back. It was so simple, I thought. DIETZ at webtv.net, but NO, that's not her. So I tried another Dietzk and still not her. It was nice of those people to let me know I had the wrong addy. It was Dietz something at webtv. If you run across her, or she contacts you, please point me to her ! Carolyn