Gang, Thank you Gloria for posting the excerpts from Chalkley's and on Isaac's line. I have charted Issac on 6-B for those keeping the chart. I would really like to see the document that page 404 of Chalkley's was excerpted from. I have asked before if any one has that document. JOHN, maybe you could see if you could locate it for us up in Richmond ???? I cracked up where it says that William Kilbreath has gone to the French Broad ! That certainly has a double meaning !! HA HA Seriously I want it to read the entire court case on the original document. I hate excerpts, as they are frequently wrong. Sometimes relying on excerpts will have you chasing your tail for years, when you could have interpreted the document better. The French Broad, for those who may not know, is a River that passes through TN, NC, and into SC. This may contain a clue as to those who migrated south, as waterways were followed early on. I'm curious about the case in general as to what Jane Bluford Spence said in her oath. Does anyone have this document, or any of the others ? I also want to thank BETTE for her posts on Clan McDuff. I have been thinking about ALANA's question about pictures. Would someone like to volunteer to be the photo carekeeper ? We could all send the pictures we have to the appointed person, and build a little collection and possibly JEFFERY could prepare them into some format to be shared ? This may be nothing, but, I'll throw it up for a jump ball. We have the James Spence born in 1776, son of James and Jane Bluford Spence, who married Jane Palmer and then we have no further info on him, do we ? Is it possible that he removed to the Holston and homesteaded there ? From my atlas the North Fork of the Holston River begins in Russell co. VA although it looks to be the same river as the Laurel Fork in Tazewell County. The South fork begins close to Marion VA and passes through Washington County. It passes just south of Bristol VA/TN and continues to north of Knoxville, TN. Just south of Knoxville, is that pesky FRENCH BROAD river.......... Later, Carolyn