Gang, I haven't charted this line yet. As with Moses' group, I'm just the typist. We did hear from Kenneth the other day. Does anyone in that line have anything to add, before I post this up ? I have confusion on just how many kids this man had ! I have: Thorpe or Tharp Bluford or Bulford Winford or Winfrey Joshua Jackson Isaac R. Mary Ann ( which is Ken's line) Levi Olive Hannah and another girl Need some help, ya'll !! Carolyn