Hi Folks ! Yes, I'm still alive and kicking...just been busy. Was doing other research when I came upon the following ...... Wythe Co., VA. Court Orders 14 Nov 1821 "HUGH SPENCE, a native of Ireland, declares his intention to become a US Citizen, and renounces his allegiance to George the Fourth, King of Great Britain and Ireland. " __________________ Wythe Co., VA. Court Orders 16 June 1830 " Michael Ketring granted a license to keep... ...A HOUSE OF PRIVATE ENTERTAINMENT. " What does this have to do with Spence??? dah...nothing...makes one wonder what type of "entertainment" he was in charge of....??? Carolyn...could Michael have known any of those French Broads???? For your Information ............. ..."I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap" ...... Jim James F. Carver 610 Gay Street, Box 214 Portsmouth, Ohio 45662-0214 e-mail: heritage@zoomnet.net