Hi Folks, No Carolyn, my ancestors who ended up with several "families" never had a total of 35 kids, wow...most averaged 12-19. I was always amazed at the pioneer ancestor who would raise a large family, wife became worn out and passed on, and the widower would remarry a teenager (sometimes same age as his own kids) only to then father another complete family...and sometimes repeat this same process a third time. ( I told my wife many moons ago before she hit 40 that when she did hit 40 I'd trade her off for 2 - 20 year olds...when that time came years ago I realized that I could no longer handle a 20 year old, nor did I desire one in truth...I dislike bubblegum and their crazy music! ) I've began my slow process gearing up to focus on the Thomas Spence d.1801 Surry Co. NC. I already assume the listed wife: LUCY will be most likely a 2nd wife. Carolyn...did you get my article on Martha Spence yet???? Later......Jim James F. Carver 610 Gay Street, Box 214 Portsmouth, Ohio 45662-0214 e-mail: heritage@zoomnet.net