Carolyn, I tried to send you a message on aol and it was returned. Is there something special a rooky should learn about that? I'm interested in getting a copy of "the chart". If you will let me know the cost of shipping and copying I will reimburse you for those costs. My snail mail address is: Susan Spence Garrison 4605 Ninth Avenue Vienna, WV 26105 I love reading my "family mail". Thanks, ssg

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_916959432_boundary Content-ID: <0_916959432@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII i am resending this for our newest members to see and for all that missed it..The Burwell Spence line, descendants and relatives, are going to have a p- a-a-a-r-r-r-r-t-t-y-y-y !!!!!!! SPENCES WELCOME!!!!!!!! --part0_916959432_boundary Content-ID: <0_916959432@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: MAGICKRN@aol.com Return-path: <MAGICKRN@aol.com> To: SPENCE-BLUFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SPENCE/ANDERSON REUNION Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:28:59 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit HEY GANG...IT'S ALL SET UP..THE SPENCE-ANDERSON REUNION WILL BE ON AUGUST 7, 1999 AT SHELTER #3, HUNGRY MOTHER'S PARK, MARION VA (OFF I-81)! MY DAD AND MOM ARE EXPECTING ALL OF YOU TO JOIN US IN THE FUN! PASS THE WORD....IT'S R-E-U-N- I-O-N TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHEILA ANDERSON-LEWIS --part0_916959432_boundary--

Goodmorning folks, Carolyn...as to your question regarding James Spence - s/o: James & Jane (Bluford) Spence of Augusta Co., VA. ...... I have no idea "what became of him" after 1790 but remember that his young, new bride: Jane Palmer died just after their marriage...thus they had NO children ...leaving him free to seek out new and interesting thing...Odds are that he remarried elsewhere and probably does have a bunch of rug-rats...we just don't know yet. .....I alway liked French Broads..... Jim James F. Carver 610 Gay Street, Box 214 Portsmouth, Ohio 45662-0214 e-mail: heritage@zoomnet.net

Gang, Thank you Gloria for posting the excerpts from Chalkley's and on Isaac's line. I have charted Issac on 6-B for those keeping the chart. I would really like to see the document that page 404 of Chalkley's was excerpted from. I have asked before if any one has that document. JOHN, maybe you could see if you could locate it for us up in Richmond ???? I cracked up where it says that William Kilbreath has gone to the French Broad ! That certainly has a double meaning !! HA HA Seriously I want it to read the entire court case on the original document. I hate excerpts, as they are frequently wrong. Sometimes relying on excerpts will have you chasing your tail for years, when you could have interpreted the document better. The French Broad, for those who may not know, is a River that passes through TN, NC, and into SC. This may contain a clue as to those who migrated south, as waterways were followed early on. I'm curious about the case in general as to what Jane Bluford Spence said in her oath. Does anyone have this document, or any of the others ? I also want to thank BETTE for her posts on Clan McDuff. I have been thinking about ALANA's question about pictures. Would someone like to volunteer to be the photo carekeeper ? We could all send the pictures we have to the appointed person, and build a little collection and possibly JEFFERY could prepare them into some format to be shared ? This may be nothing, but, I'll throw it up for a jump ball. We have the James Spence born in 1776, son of James and Jane Bluford Spence, who married Jane Palmer and then we have no further info on him, do we ? Is it possible that he removed to the Holston and homesteaded there ? From my atlas the North Fork of the Holston River begins in Russell co. VA although it looks to be the same river as the Laurel Fork in Tazewell County. The South fork begins close to Marion VA and passes through Washington County. It passes just south of Bristol VA/TN and continues to north of Knoxville, TN. Just south of Knoxville, is that pesky FRENCH BROAD river.......... Later, Carolyn

Cousins, Since we have several new members, I thought it a good time for a repeat of some basic things. This list is for descendants of James & Jane Bluford Spence of Augusta Co. VA and Burwell and Rebecca Spence of Carroll Co. VA. We invite any interested person who has reason to think that their elusive ancestor may have descended from either of these couples. We also invite anyone whose ancestor was in South West Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky and North Carolina, since access to these regions was gained by passing through SW Virginia. We also extend the invitation to descendants of Moses Spence, who was born in Virginia before moving to Georgia. So that we can maintain control of our objectives to center in Virginia research, I will again, as I have in the past, advise anyone who is new to researching the SPENCE surname to please check the archived messages on Barbara Beal's primary SPENCE list at Rootsweb. Barbara has years, if not decades, of Spence research behind her and is the utmost authority on the Spence surname. Her list is in it's 4th year of messages, and our list here at Spence-Bluford is only about 6 months old. Barbara is working on a book on the Spence name and has carried the line of David Spence of Somerset Maryland back into the 14th century. I always recommend to try Barbara's list first. Barbara can sometimes tell you exactly which branch a person belongs to, thereby saving years of wasted research effort. Please check the Spence archives at : <A HREF="http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl">RootsWeb Mailing Lists -- Interactive Search</A> This address will work for any surname that has a list on Rootsweb, including our Spence-Bluford list. The Spence-Bluford list began with 5 ladies and has expanded to almost 40 people as of today. Our old list was located at : <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/list/vaspence/">Vaspence</A> You may want to view some of the old messages on the VASpence site, although be cautioned that some of the earlier research notes have been since corrected. Please feel free to ask us about an old issue that you may find. Lastly, since Rootsweb is totally free to researchers as we, and doesn't charge fees to view it's contents, please help Rootsweb with a donation. Also, when you transcribe documents that are in the public domain, please type them in text mode and contribute them to the USGenWeb project, most often to the county in which your ancestor lived. Since you traced your ancestor to that county, other researchers will find their way to the same county, thereby increasing your chances of meeting cousins and other interested persons of the surname. Any file contributed comes up in a GenWeb search, again increasing your chances of contact. If everyone would share their research efforts, great strides could be made. In closing, this list was and continues to be informal. We sometimes tell jokes and act quite silly to relieve the pressure of our research frustrations. We are one big family after all. We are happy to have you and hope you learn from our group ! Thanks, Carolyn Spence Listowner

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_916891069_boundary Content-ID: <0_916891069@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I got this from a friend in West Virginia. It's a hoot ! Carolyn --part0_916891069_boundary Content-ID: <0_916891069@inet_out.mail.hotmail.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <ward_l@hotmail.com> Received: from rly-ya02.mx.aol.com (rly-ya02.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.194]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v56.22) with SMTP; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:29:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f203.hotmail.com [207.82.251.94]) by rly-ya02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id TAA17544 for <SPENCETOP@aol.com>; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29812 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jan 1999 00:29:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990121002915.29811.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.155.227.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:29:13 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.155.227.195] From: "Linda Ward" <ward_l@hotmail.com> To: SPENCETOP@aol.com Cc: carrol1@aol.com, gsa00147@mail.wvnet.edu, elliott94@livenet.net, little-debbie4@hotmail.com, nicholaschs@juno.com, cgroves@foto.infi.net, muse@mail.iswt.com Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:29:13 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit v >> Hi, read these silly things State Motto' > >>=--= > >>Alabama: At Least We're not Mississippi > >> > >>Alaska: 11,623 Eskimos Can't be Wrong! > >> > >>Arizona: But It's a Dry Heat > >> > >>Arkansas: Litterasy Ain't Everthing > >> > >>California: As Seen on TV > >> > >>Colorado: If You Don't Ski, Don't Bother > >> > >>Connecticut: Like Massachusetts, Only Dirtier and With Less character > >> > >>Delaware: We Really Do Like the Chemicals in our Water > >> > >>Florida: Ask Us About Our Grandkids > >> > >>Georgia: We Put the "Fun" in Fundamentalist Extremism > >> > >>Hawaii: Haka Tiki Mou Sha'ami Leeki Toru > >> (Death to Mainland Scum, But Leave Your Money) > >> > >>Idaho: More Than Just Potatoes... Well Okay, Maybe Not, But The > >> > >>Illinois: Please Don't Pronounce the "S" > >> > >>Indiana: 2 Billion Years Tidal Wave Free > >> > >>Iowa: We Do Amazing Things With Corn > >> > >>Kansas: First Of The Rectangle States > >> > >>Kentucky: Five Million People; Fifteen Last Names > >> > >>Louisiana: We're Not All Drunk Cajun Wackos, But That's Our Tourism > >> Campaign > >> > >>Maine: We're Really Cold, But We Have Cheap Lobster > >> > >>Maryland: A Thinking Man's Delaware > >> > >>Massachusetts: Our Taxes Are Lower Than Sweden's > >> > >>Michigan: First Line of Defense From the Canadians > >> > >>Minnesota: 10,000 Lakes and 10,000,000 Mosquitoes > >> > >>Mississippi: Come Feel Better About Your Own State > >> > >>Missouri: Your Federal Flood Relief Tax Dollars at Work > >> > >>Montana: Land of the Big Sky, the Unabomber, Right-Wing Crazies, and > >> Very Little Else > >> > >>Nebraska: Ask About Our State Motto Contest > >> > >>Nevada: Poker! > >> > >>New Mexico: Lizards Make Excellent Pets > >> > >>New York: You Have the Right to Remain Silent, You Have the Right to > an > >> Attorney... > >> > >>North Carolina: Tobacco is a Vegetable > >> > >>North Dakota: We Really are One of the 50 States! > >> > >>Ohio: We Wish We Were In Michigan > >> > >>Oklahoma: Like the Play, only No Singing > >> > >>Oregon: Spotted Owl... It's What's For Dinner > >> > >>Pennsylvania: Cook With Coal > >> > >>Rhode Island: We're Not REALLY An Island > >> > >>South Carolina: Remember the Civil War? We Didn't Actually Surrender > >> > >>South Dakota: Closer Than North Dakota > >> > >>Tennessee: The Educashun State > >> > >>Texas: Si' Hablo Ing'les (Yes, I speak English) > >> > >>Vermont: Yep > >> > >>Virginia: Who Says Government Stiffs and Slackjaw Yokels Don't Mix? > >> > >>Washington: Help! We're Overrun By Nerds and Slackers! > >> > >>Washington, D.C.: Wanna Be Mayor? > >> > >>West Virginia: One Big Happy Family -- Really! > >> > >>Wisconsin: Come Cut Our Cheese > >> > >>Wyoming: Wynot? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close © 1996-1998 Hotmail. All Rights Reserved. [Contact Us|He ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --part0_916891069_boundary--

GA Cousins, I had a thought ! ( Watch out !) Some or all of you please go to the Augusta Co. VA genwebsite and link over to Chalkley's website on the early Pioneers of the Shenandoah Valley ( or something like that, I don't remember ) and see if you can find the article that listed the founding families of the Tinkling Springs Church. Jim, our Augusta Co. chairperson, is busy on another of his lines right now, and he has worked so hard getting us this far ! Let's give Jim a rest ! See if any of those families are also common surnames in GA, which may suggest a mass migration to GA from Augusta County VA. Has anyone checked Moses' Rev. War records ? Did he join in a VA regiment or was he already in GA before the War ? In other words, what do we have so far on him and his neighbors ? Later, Carolyn

Cousins, I want to make a notation on chart page # 17. This is the John & Keziah Spence family of Floyd and Carroll VA. John 's son Isaac had a son Isiah born 1838. I believe that this Isiah is the same Isiah from Floyd Co. VA that died in service in GA and is buried there. I'm going to put him as died in CSA, buried in GA. Anyone with contrary info, please let me know ! If you have an old chart and don't have page 17, let me know and I'll mail you one or post it. Carolyn

Gang, I haven't charted this line yet. As with Moses' group, I'm just the typist. We did hear from Kenneth the other day. Does anyone in that line have anything to add, before I post this up ? I have confusion on just how many kids this man had ! I have: Thorpe or Tharp Bluford or Bulford Winford or Winfrey Joshua Jackson Isaac R. Mary Ann ( which is Ken's line) Levi Olive Hannah and another girl Need some help, ya'll !! Carolyn

Gang, I want to add Moses of GA to the chart. Some of you have older charts and will have to chart this out, others have newer charts mailed in the past couple of days. this will be chart 6-A Moses Spence was born 1750-1764 somewhere in VA according to DAR records. He settled in GA after the war. His wife was Mary , surname unknown. Moses lived in Burke Co. GA next to Bluford Thorpe Spence, Sr., who was the son of James & Jane Bluford Spence. His known children are\were: Celia born ca. 1787 m. 1816 Abraham Eason died 1830 Mary b. ca. 1796 m. 1816 Benjamin Leggett Moses Jr.-- no other info at present A unknown female b. ca. 1805 Elizabeth b. ca. 1797 m. 1818 Henry Hilliard Joshua**** There is confusion about Joshua, but I think most agree that he was not Bluford's son, so we will chart him as Moses' son until (and if ) something contrary comes along. Joshua was born ca. 1793 m. 1824 Susan Middleton. He died 1875. Their children were: Mary Ann b. 1825 m. Jesse Carter Elizabeth b. 1827 m. James Carter Moses W. b. 1829 m. Susan McCall Susan b. 1832 m. Allen Howard John M. b. 1834 died 1904 m. Pheriba Hargraves, lived in Coffee Co. GA Emiline b. 1836 m. ? Cannon Olive b. 1838 m. George Eason Irene b. 1842 m. John Sapp William b. 1844- no further info at present **************************************************************** We may have to change some of these people around. I need for those of you descended from this line to post what you have, and see if all agree, or else I could appoint a subcommittee and let you all get it in agreement, then the chairperson can submit it to the group ??? hint, hint, hint, I have not studied this line, I do not know the area, I am just the typist on this one ! I need some help out there ! later, Carolyn

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_916799761_boundary Content-ID: <0_916799761@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 99-01-19 18:03:01 EST, L exSpence writes: << t was the first day of census, and all through the land each pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride, his book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there, toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face and wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table and she answered his questions ... the best she was able. He asked her of children. Yes, she had quite a few -- the oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride, and she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... the marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head and saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot" was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear, but she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such, they could read some ... and write some ... though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done so he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear, "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me as we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow as we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day that the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew would they wonder at the yearning we feel and the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. I just had to forward this from Marilyn who forwarded to Luanne, who forwarded to me. How true ! Carolyn --part0_916799761_boundary Content-ID: <0_916799761@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: LexSpence@aol.com Return-path: <LexSpence@aol.com> To: brien@tenet.edu, lea@gnat.net, ROVIJO@aol.com, jaqh@world-net.net, purplmrt@express-news.net, mariek@phoenix.net, RebaLong@juno.com, mcfitz@texas.net, mignonn@swbell.net, odom.bruce@juno.com, SPENCETOP@aol.com Subject: How true. Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:03:01 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It was the first day of census, and all through the land each pollster was ready ... a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride, his book and some quills were tucked close by his side. A long winding ride down a road barely there, toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face and wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table and she answered his questions ... the best she was able. He asked her of children. Yes, she had quite a few -- the oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red; his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride, and she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the color, the age... the marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head and saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot" was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not? They came from Scotland, of that she was clear, but she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such, they could read some ... and write some ... though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done so he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear, "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me as we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census and scroll down so slow as we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day that the entries they made would effect us this way? If they knew would they wonder at the yearning we feel and the searching that makes them so increasingly real. We can hear if we listen the words they impart through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <marilyn@enid.com> Received: from rly-ya05.mx.aol.com (rly-ya --part0_916799761_boundary--

Hope this may add a little more information on the Spences in VA that are our line. A new friedn from the BASS line trying to help me with the connection to WILLIAM SPENCE in his will in Southampton Co VA. Southampton Co., VA OB 1749-1754 P. 19; 14 Sept 1749 Petition of John Person agst Charles Spence for debt due by account is continued til next Court. Petition of John Person agst William Spence for debt due by account is continued til next Court. VPB 27 p341-342 dat 5 Sep 1749 Thomas Lee President of our Council and Commander in Chief to William Spence con 35 shillings re 335a Isle of Wight County on N Side Meherrin River, pine between John BRANTLEYs and Hugh Norwell Thence by BRANTLEYs Line, white oak corner thence by John Wards Line, red oak thence by Hugh Norwells Lines) and red oak, red oak, white oak, black oak, red oak corner thence by Harry Floyd's Line, red oak then by Hugh Norwell's Lines, small red oak, red oak, to the Beginning VPB 29 p79-81 dat 15 December 1749 to William Taylor con 15 shillings re 130a Isle of Wight County on N side Maherrin River, black oak corner of Hugh Norwell's Land by a small Branch, red oak corner of sd Taylor's other land by his old Lines then red oak then white oak corner of William Spence thence by Spence's lines then black oak then red oak corner of Thomas Clifton's by his lines then red oak then red oak then black oak then pine then 4 trees chopped inwards corner of Henry Harris's in the head of a small branch down sd Br to the beginning Southampton Co., VA DB 1:215 28 Aug 1750. Spence to Macklemore this indenture made the 28th day of August 1750 between William Spence of Southampton county of the one part and Elizabeth Macklemore of the county aforesaid of the other part witnesseth that the said William Spence for and in consideration of the love and tender affection he bares for his daughter Elizabeth Macklemore aforesaid hath given granted and confirmed unto the said Elizbeth Macklemore her heirs and assignees forever. One certain tract or parcel of land situated and lying and being in Southampton county on the north side of a branch called Franks branch containing 80 acres more or less and bounded as follows. Beginning at Franks branch then surrounded Thomas Clifton’s line to black oak by the side of William Spence for a dividing line thence easterly along a line of marked trees to John Calthorp’s line - - - being part of a tract of land granted to the said William Spence by patent bearing date the 5th day of September 1749. (note: that land was patented on land patent book 27 page 341, 342 - 5 September 1749. ) William Spence 335 acres Isle of Wight on north side of Meherrin river bounded by a corner between John Brantley and Hugh Norvell also John Ward’s line and Harry Floyd’s line - - -In witness whereof the said William Spence to these presence has set his hand and seal the day and year first above written. Signed sealed and delivered in presence of Thomas Clifton, William Foster and William Macklemore. Signed William his mark Spence. memorandum 28th day of August 1750 same witnesses and signed the same way by William Spence. At a court held for the county of Southampton on Thursday the 11th day of April 1751 this indenture and memorandum were acknowledged by the within named William Spence and ordered to be recorded. examined teste R. Kello clerk Southampton Co., VA DB 1:266 9 Oct 1751 This indenture made the 9th day of October 1751 between William Spence of Southampton county in Virginia of the one part and John Macklemore of the county aforesaid of the other part witnesseth that the said William Spence for and in consideration of the sum of 10 pounds current money of Virginia - - - one certain tract or parcel of land situated lying and being in Southampton county on the south side of Franks branch containing by estimation 100 acres more or less and being part of 335 acres of land granted to the said William Spence by patent bearing date at Williamsburg the 5th day of September 1749 and bounded as followeth to wit beginning at Franks branch where John Calthorps line crosses the said branch - - - to Captain John Ruffins land then by Ruffins line to Thomas Cliftons line then by Cliftons line to Franks branch aforesaid - - - in witness whereof the said William Spence has here unto set his hand and sealed the day and year first above written. Signed sealed and delivered in presence of John Person Jr., Thomas Clifton, John Calthorp. VPB 33 p607-608 dat 4 July 1759 to John Macklemore/Maclemore con 15 shillings re 130a Isle of Wight County now Southampton County on N side of Maherrin River Whereas by Patent 15 December 1749 unto William Taylor and whereas William Taylor hath failed to pay Quit Rents and to make Cultivation and improvements and John Maclemore made suit for the same black oak corner of Hugh Norwells by a Small branch, by Norwells, red oak corner of Taylors other Land thence by his old lines, red oak , white oak thence by Williams Spences lines, black oak, red oak thence by Thomas Cliftons lines, red oak , red oak , black oak, pine, 4 trees chopped inwards corner of Henry Harris's Land in a Small Branch and down sd Br to the beginning. WB 1 Southampton Co., VA P. 240, WW 12 Jan 1758, WP 9 Feb 1758. William Spence of Nottoway Parish. Leg. daughter Mary, John Spence, Lucy Powell, John McLemore. Mary Bass to live on my plantation her lifetime. Ex.: Simon Turner, Sr. Wit: John Rawlings, James Bass, Middy Bass.

From all the census records of Isaac Spence of Emmanuel and Thomas Counties in Ga it appears that he was probably born between 1875 and 1885. Although he is shown as being born in Ga this could be incorrect. The name Blufrord or some form of it appears in Isaac's line. He could possibly have a son by that name. Other records of earlier Spence's. Deed abstracts of Montgomer Co, Ga 1. Moses Spence - 1812 2. Tharp Spence - 1803 Petitions to the Govenor of Georgia 1789 - 1793 1. John Spence 2. Moses Spence 3. Tharp Spence 4. Thomas Spence I believe that one of the above could be the father of Isaac ? There was a Tharp Spence on the tax roll of montgomery, Co, Ga in 1805 land Grants Burke County, Ga 1. John Spence - 1789 2. Moses

The reconstructed census of Burke Co. John Spence Moses Spence Tharp Spence Thomas Spence Isaac Spence of Ga had a son named Bulford who was born in 1837,probably Thomas County, Ga. ( note this name and how it seems to be like Bluford ) Georgia Federal Pensions War of 1812. Pension application... served in Capt Roger Gambels Co,Ga milita... widow Hannah Spence. Also a John Spence. There was Tharp Spence on the tax roll of Montgomery Co, Ga in 1805 - 06 Abstract deed Montgomery Co, Ga 1812...... Tharp Spence. There was a Jereimah Spence in the 1830 census of Emanuel Co, Ga The reconstructed census of 1790 Ga 1. John Spence 2. Moses Spence 3. Tharp " 4. Thomas " Thought I would pass this on to anyone who may be interested in the Ga Spence's

Hello to all the Spence's out there. I am researching the Spence name in Georgia and in particular Isaac Spence. I believe he may be a descendent of the Spence's of Virginia and very possible the son of Moses Spence. My ancestry to Isaac is through his daughter Mary Ann who married in Thomas County, Ga on Apr 9, 1838 to Wilson David Butts. They moved to Walton County, Florida about 1851 - 52,Mary Ann was also known as Mediann. The earliest know record of Issac Spence was in Emmanuel County, Ga in 1820.At this time his age was listed as to 45. He is listed as having six children,all boy's. He next appears in Thomas County, Ga in the 1830 census. he is now listed as being age 40 - 50 and with nine children in his home. he appears next in the 1840 census of Thomas County only this time his name is listed as Spencer he has ten children now in his home. Isaac was married on Apr 4, 1839 to Hannah Taylor in Thomas County. it is not sure if this is his second marriage or perhaps a third or more. The 1850 census of Thomas County shows Isaac as being age 65 wit wife Hannah as 30, also listed was a son named Jackson and two females names unknown. In 1860 Isaac is still listed in the census records of Thomas County. he is now shown to be age 87, and being born in Ga. Wife Hannah age is 41 and there two females age 7 and 6 there names are Elvia Conner and Lucianda. The 1870 census list Isaac as being age 95 and born in Ga. Wife Hannah age 60 with a Elvinia and Lucinda ages 18 and 16. These two are probably grand daughters of Isaac. Children of Isaac that are known are Mary Ann born about 1822 and levi, Joshua, Tharp, Olive, Hannah, Isaac R; and Winfrey. It is of interest to note the name Joshua which seems to come up in earlier Spence families.

Cousins, Sandy agreed to be my experimentee, and I sent her the 2nd of Burwell's pension file as an attachment and she got it with a little gibberish. Anyone else want it ? Carolyn

Hi, I also wanted to add this Issac, as he bears watching. Luanne sent me an article out of the Wake Co. NC Heritage book on this line. From researching my other families in Surry Co NC many of them came from the Wake/Nash county area. I don't think that Barbara has covered this man in her coastal area Spences, so he may be up for auction, ( although I don't want him ) maybe someone can connect into this line. Call this page 19. Isaac Spence Sr. was born ca. 1745. He lived in the Wilmington NC area in 1784-1787. He married Elizabeth Bowden on 4/27/1769, and they had 3 known sons. These 3 known sons moved to Wake and Cumberland Co. NC. Wake county is the Raleigh, NC area. Sons: John b. abt. 1770, wife unknown. One known son, Timothy. Timothy had one known son, George Washington Spence. ***************************************************************** Isaac Jr., wife unknown had 5 known children: William R., Edmund, Polly, Nancy and James. ****************************************************************************** ************** Timothy Jr. was born 6/4/1771 and married Martha Futch in 1791 and they had several children about which some is known. Their children were: Polly born 8/24/1792 m. Isaac Woodard and had 7 children Isaac b. 5/1/1794 died 4/19/1848 Thomas b. 4/23/1795 m. 1820 Sarah and had 4 children Elizabeth b. 7/18/1796 died 8/26/1828 m. Dempsey Powell and had 3 children Sarah b. 10/30/1798 m. Ethelred Blanchard. Sarah had no children with Ethelred, but had one son before she married named Stephen Spence. Ingrum b. 3/6/1802 m. Henrietta Reardon, Eliza Powell and Mary Hockaday. One known child by first wife. Ann b. 9/23/1804 m. Jack Johnston and had 2 children Matthew b. 2/12/1806 m. Mary Parker and had 6 children Catherine b. 9/24/1807. no information Timothy b. 4/30/1809 m. Elizabeth Spain and had 4 rugrats Daniel b. 3/30/1811 m. Sally Giddens Luiaza b. 1/6/1814 John b. 10/16/1800 born in Duplin Co. NC d. 1882 m. Nancy Stewart in 1826. They had 8 children listed below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- Mary Ann (Rebecca) b.9/11/1828 m. Aaron Senter Neil Archibald b. 6/8/1830 m. Martha Turner Kassandy b. 1833 m. Thomas Truelove John Gaston b. 1835 died as a child Edith Ann b. 1837 m. John Pearson Sephrony b. 1838 m. Newett Senter Harriett b. 1839 m. Dixon Senter George Daniel b. 1841 m. Siddy Stokes ****************************************************************************** My best guess is that this family originated in the MD line, but can't be sure. Some of these people may have passed through NC and VA on their way to KY or TN or beyond. Later, Carolyn Spence 7530 Hwy 62 Trinity, NC 27370-8909 (336)431-6065 Spencetop@aol.com ****************************** ****************************** Certified Genealogy Addict and PartTime CPA !

Cousins, I wanted to post this line so those with charts can add it. I don't know where and if this Stephen connects, but perhaps ? Call this page 20 of the chart. Stephen Spence was born 11/3/1800 and he married Martha Hooper in Wilkes Co. NC in 1818. They moved to Blount and Rhea counties of TN. Their children were: James born 1819 married Mahala Hale who was born in 1809 in TN Elizabeth b. ca. 1825 m. Thomas Jefferson Hale moved to Arkansas the MO John m. Tennesse Knight and they had 12 children. this info came from WSpence106@aol.com (non-member) William says: It is thought that Stephen was the son of a James Spence who homesteaded high on the Holston River and later owned land 6 miles east of Knoxville, TN. They are thought to be related to the other Spence families of Roane Co. TN in the 1794-1800 era. So there it is, if anyone can connect something to it . Carolyn Spence 7530 Hwy 62 Trinity, NC 27370-8909 (336)431-6065 Spencetop@aol.com ****************************** ****************************** Certified Genealogy Addict and PartTime CPA !

For some unknown reason the 2nd application won't copy to be sent as I did the first. I don't know what gives. It's a good one too. Describes the battle at Eutaw Springs ! Carolyn

TRANSCRIPTION OF PENSION APPLICATION OF BURWELL SPENCE by Carolyn Spence, Jan. 1999 from original copies from National Archives War Department files. I have underlined any words that I was unsure of. Also spelling was corrected by me. State of Virginia County of Grayson This 24th day of September in the year of our Lord 1832 personally appeared in open court before the Justices of Court now sitting Burrell Spence a resident of the county of Grayson in state of Virginia at the age of 69 years near as he can recollect, who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7th day 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, Alexander Gordon, Capt., and Col. Malbry and Col. Francis Lock and he served three months under some of the said officers and General Green, Col., Lee, so called, he saith it was in the year 1781 on the second day of August when the claimant entered the service and was discharged on the 27th day of October 1781. From the first tour in one engagement in South Carolina at the Eutaw Springs. He was in the militia service under above named officers, which was militia and resided in the state of North Carolina in Surry County, when he entered the service and further saith he was drafted and was in a battle at the Eutaw Springs in which he was engaged. They march through the state of North Carolina as for the name of the other officers, he knows not, for he was under Capt. Alexander Gordon, Col. Malbry, General Green, Lee, and officers in time of Battle at the Eutaw Springs when we was obliged to retreat. The said Lee commanded us to follow him which we did and he entered the service the second time on the 2nd day of May in the year of 1782 under the command of Capt. Ward and was discharged 1st day of June 1782. He resided in the state of Virginia, Montgomery County, when he entered the service. He was drafted. He was in military service and was marched through to the head of the Clinch River to Whitten's Station and was in no engagement the last time and he has documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service. I hereby relinquish any claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of agency of any state. Questioned by the court: 1. Where and what year were you born ? He answers: My parents tell me that I was born in Bedford County in state of Virginia. The year he knows not. 2. Have you any record of your age ? He saith not. 3. Where were you living when called into service, where have you lived since the Revolution War and where do you now live ? He saith: In the state of North Carolina, Surry County when I first entered the service. Second tour I lived in the state of Virginia in Montgomery, then lived in North Carolina in Ashe County then moved to the state of Virginia in Grayson County and I now reside in the same. 4.How were you called into service ? Were you drafted or volunteer ? He answers: I was drafted both times. 5. State names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops, said Continental and Militia regiment as you can recollect and the general circumstances. He says as for the regular officers, he knows not. The officers which he named was Capt. Gordon, Col. Lock, Col. Malbry Lee, General Green, which officers first was in battle of Eutaw Springs in South Carolina, as for the regiment, I know not. 6. Did you ever receive a discharge and by whom was it given, and if so, what has become of it ? He said: I received 2 discharges. First from Capt. Alexander Gordon and Col. Francis Lock. Second from John Taylor. Discharged from Capt. Ward's camp, which discharges are produced in this court. First in the letters and begins to wit: Camp at Bell's Branch October 27th, 1781, This may certify Burrell Spence has served a three months tour of Duty in my camp under command of Col. Lock as a good and faithful soldier and are hereby discharged. Alexander Gordon, Capt. Francis Lock, Col. Second discharge: Montgomery: I do hereby discharge Burrell Spence from Capt. Ward's camp militia he having served the tour for which he was drafted and during which time he behaved himself well. Witness my hand this First day of June 1782. Jno. Taylor 7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood and who can testify as to your character for veracity and good behaviour. He saith : John Cock, Esquire, Irwin Montgomery, Esquire, is acquainted with him in my present neighborhood. As for services, I know of no one to prove it by. Sworn to and subscribed the day and year afore said. his Bu rrell X Spence mark We, Irwin MONTGOMERY and John COCK, Clergymen, residing in the neighborhood hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Burrell Spence which has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be 69 years of age, that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution and we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed the day and year afore said. Irwin Montgomery John Cock And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of this matter, and after putting the interrogatories perscribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he stated. And the court further certifies that it appears to them that Irwin Montgomery and John Cock who have signed the preceeding certificate as Clergymen residing in the County of Grayson and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit. I, Martin Dickerson, Clerk of the Court of Grayson County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Burrell Spence for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said Court at office, this 15th day of October 1832. Martin Dickerson End of transcription: Aftermath: War Department Brief was prepared by a Mr. Easter on 21 February 1833 listing duration of service as: 8/2/1781 to 10/27/1791 2 months and 25 days 5/2/1782 to 6/1/1782 1 month Burrell was rejected for failure to serve 6 months. See pension application # 2 of 1843