How about some dates and places only Missouri Coulter i find is one Missouri Coulter Mother spouse: James W Pope Texas Deaths 1890-1976 child: Flossie Pope Sullivan Death 26 Mar 1956 Fort Worth, Tarrant, Texas Gender Female Married Birth Date 20 Nov 1900 Birthplace Oklahoma Certificate Number 16224 GS Film number 2114667 Digital Folder Number 005145266 My Speaks mrd into Clark family Richard Jones Clark SR 1845-1934 TX bur Speaks Cem Lavaca Co TX +1Sarah Arkansas May Clark (1846 - 1883) +2 Mary Elizabeth Speaks 1848 MS -1903 TX [2 kids] Richard Find A Grave Memorial# 82830955http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=clark&GSfn=richard&GSmn=jones&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=82830955&df=all& Mary's parents Name: George Speaks Age 1860: 37 Birth Year: abt 1823 Birthplace:Alabama Home 1860: Jackson, Tex Male Post Office: Morales de Lavaca Household Members: Name Age Geo Speaks 37 AL Angeline Speaks 34 Mechklinburg, VA Mary E Speaks 12 Carroll County MS *** Mary Elizabeth John Speaks 9 Carroll County MS Sarah A Speaks 7 Lavaca TX Robert W Speaks 3 Lavaca TX Louiza w Speaks 10.12 Jackson TX Nena Smothers Findagrave #46780596 member for 9 years Nena Smothers NE WA Smothers Tribe DNA Project Admin 2002-2014 smothersnena@hotmail.com http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Smothers > From: gailharms@charter.net > To: bingham3@pacbell.net; speaks@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:35:10 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family > > Hi Terry, > It has been a long time.Yes I am still researching my Speaks.My mom told me > her dad would tell her about her mom my grandma Hilda Speaks she died when > my mom was young. He would tell her about the Cherokee in them. I am not > sure it could be from the McGee's or the Coulter's side of the family. My 2x > ggrandmother was Missouri olive Coulter I thought maybe it could be her.But > not sure. > > Gail > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Bingham" <bingham3@pacbell.net> > To: <speaks@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family > > > > Hi Gail nice to know you are still doing research. I don't know of any but > > that doesn't mean anything. People didn't always want people to know if > > there was. My husband family married into a family that had Indian by > > marriage way back in the family history. Terry Bingham > > > > > > > >>________________________________ > >> From: Gail <gailharms@charter.net> > >>To: SPEAKS@rootsweb.com > >>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:28 AM > >>Subject: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family > >> > >> > >>Can anyone tell me if they know off any Speaks that had Cherokee Indian in > >>them.All my Aunts and Uncles told us we had Cherokee Indian in us.I have > >>never been able to fine anything. > >>Thank you Gail > >> > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >>in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Terry, It has been a long time.Yes I am still researching my Speaks.My mom told me her dad would tell her about her mom my grandma Hilda Speaks she died when my mom was young. He would tell her about the Cherokee in them. I am not sure it could be from the McGee's or the Coulter's side of the family. My 2x ggrandmother was Missouri olive Coulter I thought maybe it could be her.But not sure. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Bingham" <bingham3@pacbell.net> To: <speaks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family > Hi Gail nice to know you are still doing research. I don't know of any but > that doesn't mean anything. People didn't always want people to know if > there was. My husband family married into a family that had Indian by > marriage way back in the family history. Terry Bingham > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Gail <gailharms@charter.net> >>To: SPEAKS@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:28 AM >>Subject: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family >> >> >>Can anyone tell me if they know off any Speaks that had Cherokee Indian in >>them.All my Aunts and Uncles told us we had Cherokee Indian in us.I have >>never been able to fine anything. >>Thank you Gail >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Gail nice to know you are still doing research. I don't know of any but that doesn't mean anything. People didn't always want people to know if there was. My husband family married into a family that had Indian by marriage way back in the family history. Terry Bingham >________________________________ > From: Gail <gailharms@charter.net> >To: SPEAKS@rootsweb.com >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:28 AM >Subject: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family > > >Can anyone tell me if they know off any Speaks that had Cherokee Indian in them.All my Aunts and Uncles told us we had Cherokee Indian in us.I have never been able to fine anything. >Thank you Gail > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
I can not say how many times I have heard that even in our own family and I can say that majority of the time it has no truth to it. Good luck, happy trails. I'd go on to other research. Nena Smothers Migrations of Capt William Smeathers Pa>TN>KY>TX http://www.migrations.org/individual.php3?record=21943 Nena Smothers NE WA Smothers Tribe DNA Project Admin 2002-2014 > From: gailharms@charter.net > To: SPEAKS@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:28:09 -0500 > Subject: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks Family > > Can anyone tell me if they know off any Speaks that had Cherokee Indian in them.All my Aunts and Uncles told us we had Cherokee Indian in us.I have never been able to fine anything. > Thank you Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can anyone tell me if they know off any Speaks that had Cherokee Indian in them.All my Aunts and Uncles told us we had Cherokee Indian in us.I have never been able to fine anything. Thank you Gail
I stopped the speake page because the site started charging to have the site. So because of that I can know longer get on the site myself. Most of the people that were on that site didn't do much research most of the info was put on by myself. If I understand right the research you are doing is on Samuel who was from a slave family? This is very interesting because I have never met anyone doing the research on a slave line. All the info on the Speake site and the Speake association don't have anyone doing research along this line, their families were all slave owners. I would be glade to try and help you and see what I can find They are just now starting to come out with slave records. It maybe hard to find info with out his parents name. He was never a slave so there would be no slave records on him but if we could find his father maybe he was a slave and we might be able to then trace them through the slave records. I'll see what I can find . Do you know where and when he died? hope to hear from you. Terry Bingham -----Original Message----- From: speaks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:speaks-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Yalanda holtz Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:23 PM To: SPEAKS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SPEAK(E)S] Speaks in SC, NC, GA Infomation on my Ancestors: Samuel Speaks and Susan Young Samuel Speaks- (b. 1880 in South Carolina, Militia District 8, Chatham, GA) Mother: Unknown Father: Unknown Samuel speaks married: Susan Young - (b. 1884 in South Carolina? Militia District 8, Chatham, GA) Mother: Unknown Father: Unknown Children: Samuel “buddy” Speaks Gracie Speaks Willie “son” Speaks Isaiah “sugar” Speaks (b. 1908 in South Carolina, Militia D. 8, Chatham, GA) Samuel “buddy” Speaks (b. 1898 in SC, Militia D. 8, Chatham, GA) Marriage: Unknown Kids: Unknown Gracie Speaks (b. 1901 in SC, Militia D. 8, Chatham, GA)- d. Aug. 5th 1990 First marriage: Eddie Moore (No information on) Second Marriage: Willie Walker (No information) Children Lila Mae Moore (b. 1920) Susie Mae Moore (b. 1921) Eleese Moore (b. 1923) Edna Moore (b. Sept. 1, 1925 in GA) Children of Gracie and Willie Walker Samuel Walker (b. 1928 in Naylor, GA) We seem to have some connection to James Winn (b1841, GA-Slave of Abial Winn) Note: 2/19/2008 The Winn name came from the name of a white slave owner named Abial Winn. He owned both James and Lenah, which I have concern to believe their last name was or is Young. During the slave era slaves took the last name of their owner. This is what breaks our family up and causes confusion. I found out that they moved to Naylor, GA somewhere during the time period of 1910 and 1920. Reason to believe this is because, William Young is Susan Youngs brother and he was settled and living with his wife and Children in Naylor, GA.. At this time I cannot find the household that Susan and William lived in growing up together, which would blend the connection between the Winn’s and Young’s, which are believed to be the same people. Noted reasoning for this, my Aunt Jan Benjamin Vega gave me a list of the cousins on March 12 2007, which I later found that the kids through research, belonged to William Young, located on the census of 1920 and 1930, for Naylor, GA. Below is William Young’s wife and kids… William Young (b. 1886, SC) Marriage: Essie Mae Young (b. 1890 GA) Kids: Ernest Young (b. 1911, GA) Mattie B. Young (b. 1912, GA) Benjamin “bennie” Young (b. 1913, GA) Alma Young (b. 1916, GA) Willie B. Young (b. 1917 GA, “Female”) Letha Mae Young (b.1918, GA) Baley Young (b. 1919, GA) Eddie J. Young (b. 1920, GA) Bertha Mae Young (b. 1928, GA) Vara Mae Young (b. 1930, GA) Essie Mae Dennon (b. 1929, GA) This is his granddaughter yholtz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SPEAKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Infomation on my Ancestors: Samuel Speaks and Susan Young Samuel Speaks- (b. 1880 in South Carolina, Militia District 8, Chatham, GA) Mother: Unknown Father: Unknown Samuel speaks married: Susan Young - (b. 1884 in South Carolina? Militia District 8, Chatham, GA) Mother: Unknown Father: Unknown Children: Samuel “buddy” Speaks Gracie Speaks Willie “son” Speaks Isaiah “sugar” Speaks (b. 1908 in South Carolina, Militia D. 8, Chatham, GA) Samuel “buddy” Speaks (b. 1898 in SC, Militia D. 8, Chatham, GA) Marriage: Unknown Kids: Unknown Gracie Speaks (b. 1901 in SC, Militia D. 8, Chatham, GA)- d. Aug. 5th 1990 First marriage: Eddie Moore (No information on) Second Marriage: Willie Walker (No information) Children Lila Mae Moore (b. 1920) Susie Mae Moore (b. 1921) Eleese Moore (b. 1923) Edna Moore (b. Sept. 1, 1925 in GA) Children of Gracie and Willie Walker Samuel Walker (b. 1928 in Naylor, GA) We seem to have some connection to James Winn (b1841, GA-Slave of Abial Winn) Note: 2/19/2008 The Winn name came from the name of a white slave owner named Abial Winn. He owned both James and Lenah, which I have concern to believe their last name was or is Young. During the slave era slaves took the last name of their owner. This is what breaks our family up and causes confusion. I found out that they moved to Naylor, GA somewhere during the time period of 1910 and 1920. Reason to believe this is because, William Young is Susan Youngs brother and he was settled and living with his wife and Children in Naylor, GA.. At this time I cannot find the household that Susan and William lived in growing up together, which would blend the connection between the Winn’s and Young’s, which are believed to be the same people. Noted reasoning for this, my Aunt Jan Benjamin Vega gave me a list of the cousins on March 12 2007, which I later found that the kids through research, belonged to William Young, located on the census of 1920 and 1930, for Naylor, GA. Below is William Young’s wife and kids… William Young (b. 1886, SC) Marriage: Essie Mae Young (b. 1890 GA) Kids: Ernest Young (b. 1911, GA) Mattie B. Young (b. 1912, GA) Benjamin “bennie” Young (b. 1913, GA) Alma Young (b. 1916, GA) Willie B. Young (b. 1917 GA, “Female”) Letha Mae Young (b.1918, GA) Baley Young (b. 1919, GA) Eddie J. Young (b. 1920, GA) Bertha Mae Young (b. 1928, GA) Vara Mae Young (b. 1930, GA) Essie Mae Dennon (b. 1929, GA) This is his granddaughter yholtz
Hi Cousins, The DNA testing company that our family project is using is once again offering 6 holiday gift certificates for each surname project. This is a great time to join and be tested or to give testing as a holiday gift. I can't talk about price on this list, but there are two certificates for a yline (paternal) 25 marker test, two for a 37 marker test and two for mtdna (maternal) testing. These are not fully paid tests, but will reduce the cost of the test by 10-15%. Terms of the certificates are: 1) that they be used only for new members (new kits), not upgrades, 2) that they are not valid in conjunction with any other promotion, and 3) that the kit must be ordered *and paid for* by 31 Dec 2007. Any certificates not used by December 31st will expire, although if the kits are ordered and paid for by the, they don't expire. You can use the certificate and purchase the kit, even if you haven't decided yet who will use it. The kits have a virtually indefinite shelf-life (until the samples are actually taken), so you could purchase a kit now and use it later. If you are interested, please contact me offlist and I will send you the link and instructions. Roberta Estes
Speaks family members, If you have been waiting to order a DNA test, Family Tree DNA is offering gift certificates for various kinds of testing. This might be a good time to order that test, or a gift for someone whose results would benefit your genealogical research. Details follow. If I can help, let me know. Bobbi Estes To Speaks group manager, As we enter the 2006 Holiday Season, Family Tree DNA would like to thank all our Group Administrators for their support during this and past years. We would also like to take this opportunity to give each Surname Project a $130 gift in the form of 6 Gift Certificates - 2 $30 for Y-DNA37 or 67, 2 $20 for Y-DNA25 and 2 $15 for mtDNA - that will be valid according to the following terms: a) Not valid in conjunction with any other promotion or offer b) Each gift certificate is to be used with one new test kit, according to what is marked in the certificate c) Kits must be ordered and paid for by December 31st, 2006 e) Not valid for test upgrades, add-ons or Y-DNA12. How to use the Gift Certificate: 1) If you order the test under the "Invoice" method, please contact Julie@familytreedna.com with the kit number and have her apply the Gift Certificate to the kit. 2) If you order the test under the "Credit Card" method, please contact Julie@familytreedna.com with the kit number and have her refund the value of the Gift Certificate to the credit card used in the purchase. A copy of these terms can be found at your GAP/General Fund. After you use a certificate, the kit number for which it is applied will show up in your GAP/General Fund. Happy Holidays and thank you again for your support! E-mail anytime! Max Blankfeld
I would encourage all that have an interest in the Speak/e/s genealogy to join the Speak/e/s Family Association. The membership fee is very low at $15 per year. The association publishes 4 quarterly Genealogy Bulletins and has an annual meeting each year. It also has projects such as the one described in this digest by Roberta Estes on DNA. I hope many of you will join and help us find new relatives and more old relatives. Please send your check for $15 to Lin Mollway the Treasurer of SFA. Her address is: Lin Mollway 5237 Regents Park Rd. Rockford, IL 61107 The current President is Mary Hentschel. You can contact her at mfsh429@yahoo.com
Terry, I'm off on a genealogy trip this week, but that is a good idea and I'll do that when I get home. Thank you for the idea. Bobbi -------------- Original message -------------- From: Gregory Bingham <bingham3@pacbell.net> > Hi Bobby > My husband descends from the Speake line in Charles County, Maryland. I no > longer get the bulletin, but maybe if you post the info of the generations we > might be able to help. I have a lot of will's and guardian papers and land > deeds. I also found records in D.C.on some Speake's that moved there and had to > register their slave's This way I was able to see from the will of the father > who his son was. > Terry Bingham > bingham3@pacbell.net > > SPEAKS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > SPEAKS-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 2 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Call for Genealogy Assistance ["Roberta J. Estes" #2 Re: [Speak(e)s] Call for > Genealogy [LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SPEAKS-D, send a message to > > SPEAKS-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the SPEAKS-D list administrator, send mail to > SPEAKS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:02:35 -0400 > From: "Roberta J. Estes" > To: SPEAKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Call for Genealogy Assistance > > Hi Cousins, > > I'm in a bit of a pickle trying to figure out these early Speakes lines. I > need help in one of two ways from someone or different people. > > As you know, I started the DNA project a couple years ago now. We only have > 7 participants so far, and given the genealogy that they think they have, > they should all match, but they don't. So we have a 20th century mystery on > our hands. Not only do they not match, we have 4 different results out of 7 > people. This is not only confusing, it's very frustrating. We can't even > tell which of the lines really does go back to Thomas at this point, because > someone's genealogy is not correct, or there was an undocumented adoption > along the way someplace. Maybe some minister took in every orphan neighbor > kid and raised them. Wouldn't surprise me any. > > For anyone who gets the Speak(e)s Family Association Bulletin, the recent > edition, vol 27 number 2 has a wonderful genealogy chart beginning with Col. > Thomas Speake on page 16. It takes his lines (as much as are known) through > the 5th generation. > > Here is where I need your help with one of two things. > > 1. If you are a Speaks male (last name Speaks) or know of one, and you have > not tested, please, PLEASE consider testing at this time. We really really > need you and it will help sort this mess out. If you have questions or > concerns, please let me know and I'll be glad to help you. > > 2. For the genealogists among you, I desperately need to compile some > original records for these early generations. I feel like a DAR lady asking > now for proofs in each generation, but in my other lines I've found too many > "early genealogies" to be wrong. I don't know if that is the case here or > not, but someplace there is a problem. So what I'm asking for now is for > the first three or four generations downstream from Thomas, if you have any > original documents or extracts, please send them my way. I'm looking for > things that connect people, like wills, like deeds, like Rev. War pension > applications, like court suits, and of course, Bibles. I need to answer the > question of how we know that Thomas Speake who died in 1781 had 2 sons, John > (Innkeeper) and Bowling, and how we know that the particular John was really > the John that was the son of Thomas and not another John, for example. If > you have any of these kinds of records in your files, please take pity on me > and send them. If the info is in the genealogy section of this latest > newsletter, you don't need to send it, but I would surely like to know on > the wills and documents mentioned there, if they are signed with a name or > an X. Sometimes two men in an area by the same name sign their names > differently. Also, if anyone has compiled primary research in a particular > area, that would be wonderful too. In some of my other lines, I have > compiled all info about a particular family by county. > > I hate to beg in public, but if you can help with one or the other of these > things, please do. This is your family too and we all need to work together > to sort this out. I really need your help!!! > > Thanks, > > Bobbi Estes > > ______________________________Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:43:20 EDT > From: LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com > To: SPEAKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Speak(e)s] Call for Genealogy Assistance > > Hi Bobbi, > > Unfortunately I am a female Speaks descendant so I'm no help to the DNA > project. > > But I would like to know more about Col Thomas Speake. > > My earliest Speaks ancestor is John Speake who married Elizabeth Wade. I > don't get the Speak(e)s Family Association Bulletin, so any help to see if my > line (might link up with Col Thomas Speake would be very interesting. > > My DAR ancestor is Hezekiah Speake b. 1757 and died in 1837 in Bourbon Co. > Ky. who married Eleanor P. Tucker. > > Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. > > Lynda Combs Gipson > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >
Hi Bobby My husband descends from the Speake line in Charles County, Maryland. I no longer get the bulletin, but maybe if you post the info of the generations we might be able to help. I have a lot of will's and guardian papers and land deeds. I also found records in D.C.on some Speake's that moved there and had to register their slave's This way I was able to see from the will of the father who his son was. Terry Bingham bingham3@pacbell.net SPEAKS-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: SPEAKS-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 2 Today's Topics: #1 Call for Genealogy Assistance ["Roberta J. Estes" #2 Re: [Speak(e)s] Call for Genealogy [LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from SPEAKS-D, send a message to SPEAKS-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the SPEAKS-D list administrator, send mail to SPEAKS-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:02:35 -0400 From: "Roberta J. Estes" <restes@comcast.net> To: SPEAKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Call for Genealogy Assistance Hi Cousins, I'm in a bit of a pickle trying to figure out these early Speakes lines. I need help in one of two ways from someone or different people. As you know, I started the DNA project a couple years ago now. We only have 7 participants so far, and given the genealogy that they think they have, they should all match, but they don't. So we have a 20th century mystery on our hands. Not only do they not match, we have 4 different results out of 7 people. This is not only confusing, it's very frustrating. We can't even tell which of the lines really does go back to Thomas at this point, because someone's genealogy is not correct, or there was an undocumented adoption along the way someplace. Maybe some minister took in every orphan neighbor kid and raised them. Wouldn't surprise me any. For anyone who gets the Speak(e)s Family Association Bulletin, the recent edition, vol 27 number 2 has a wonderful genealogy chart beginning with Col. Thomas Speake on page 16. It takes his lines (as much as are known) through the 5th generation. Here is where I need your help with one of two things. 1. If you are a Speaks male (last name Speaks) or know of one, and you have not tested, please, PLEASE consider testing at this time. We really really need you and it will help sort this mess out. If you have questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be glad to help you. 2. For the genealogists among you, I desperately need to compile some original records for these early generations. I feel like a DAR lady asking now for proofs in each generation, but in my other lines I've found too many "early genealogies" to be wrong. I don't know if that is the case here or not, but someplace there is a problem. So what I'm asking for now is for the first three or four generations downstream from Thomas, if you have any original documents or extracts, please send them my way. I'm looking for things that connect people, like wills, like deeds, like Rev. War pension applications, like court suits, and of course, Bibles. I need to answer the question of how we know that Thomas Speake who died in 1781 had 2 sons, John (Innkeeper) and Bowling, and how we know that the particular John was really the John that was the son of Thomas and not another John, for example. If you have any of these kinds of records in your files, please take pity on me and send them. If the info is in the genealogy section of this latest newsletter, you don't need to send it, but I would surely like to know on the wills and documents mentioned there, if they are signed with a name or an X. Sometimes two men in an area by the same name sign their names differently. Also, if anyone has compiled primary research in a particular area, that would be wonderful too. In some of my other lines, I have compiled all info about a particular family by county. I hate to beg in public, but if you can help with one or the other of these things, please do. This is your family too and we all need to work together to sort this out. I really need your help!!! Thanks, Bobbi Estes ______________________________Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:43:20 EDT From: LyndaCGKyCol@aol.com To: SPEAKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Speak(e)s] Call for Genealogy Assistance Hi Bobbi, Unfortunately I am a female Speaks descendant so I'm no help to the DNA project. But I would like to know more about Col Thomas Speake. My earliest Speaks ancestor is John Speake who married Elizabeth Wade. I don't get the Speak(e)s Family Association Bulletin, so any help to see if my line (might link up with Col Thomas Speake would be very interesting. My DAR ancestor is Hezekiah Speake b. 1757 and died in 1837 in Bourbon Co. Ky. who married Eleanor P. Tucker. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. Lynda Combs Gipson
Hi Bobbi, Unfortunately I am a female Speaks descendant so I'm no help to the DNA project. But I would like to know more about Col Thomas Speake. My earliest Speaks ancestor is John Speake who married Elizabeth Wade. I don't get the Speak(e)s Family Association Bulletin, so any help to see if my line (might link up with Col Thomas Speake would be very interesting. My DAR ancestor is Hezekiah Speake b. 1757 and died in 1837 in Bourbon Co. Ky. who married Eleanor P. Tucker. Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. Lynda Combs Gipson
Hi Cousins, I'm in a bit of a pickle trying to figure out these early Speakes lines. I need help in one of two ways from someone or different people. As you know, I started the DNA project a couple years ago now. We only have 7 participants so far, and given the genealogy that they think they have, they should all match, but they don't. So we have a 20th century mystery on our hands. Not only do they not match, we have 4 different results out of 7 people. This is not only confusing, it's very frustrating. We can't even tell which of the lines really does go back to Thomas at this point, because someone's genealogy is not correct, or there was an undocumented adoption along the way someplace. Maybe some minister took in every orphan neighbor kid and raised them. Wouldn't surprise me any. For anyone who gets the Speak(e)s Family Association Bulletin, the recent edition, vol 27 number 2 has a wonderful genealogy chart beginning with Col. Thomas Speake on page 16. It takes his lines (as much as are known) through the 5th generation. Here is where I need your help with one of two things. 1. If you are a Speaks male (last name Speaks) or know of one, and you have not tested, please, PLEASE consider testing at this time. We really really need you and it will help sort this mess out. If you have questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be glad to help you. 2. For the genealogists among you, I desperately need to compile some original records for these early generations. I feel like a DAR lady asking now for proofs in each generation, but in my other lines I've found too many "early genealogies" to be wrong. I don't know if that is the case here or not, but someplace there is a problem. So what I'm asking for now is for the first three or four generations downstream from Thomas, if you have any original documents or extracts, please send them my way. I'm looking for things that connect people, like wills, like deeds, like Rev. War pension applications, like court suits, and of course, Bibles. I need to answer the question of how we know that Thomas Speake who died in 1781 had 2 sons, John (Innkeeper) and Bowling, and how we know that the particular John was really the John that was the son of Thomas and not another John, for example. If you have any of these kinds of records in your files, please take pity on me and send them. If the info is in the genealogy section of this latest newsletter, you don't need to send it, but I would surely like to know on the wills and documents mentioned there, if they are signed with a name or an X. Sometimes two men in an area by the same name sign their names differently. Also, if anyone has compiled primary research in a particular area, that would be wonderful too. In some of my other lines, I have compiled all info about a particular family by county. I hate to beg in public, but if you can help with one or the other of these things, please do. This is your family too and we all need to work together to sort this out. I really need your help!!! Thanks, Bobbi Estes
Mildred Jordan Speakes PARIS- Mildred Jordan Speakes, 88, Woodmont Drive, professional seamstress, widow of William T. Speakes, died Sat., Mar. 11, 2006, at her residence. She was born Nov. 8, 1917 in Bourbon County, daughter of the late Innes and Loulia McIntyre Jordan. Mildred was a graduate of Paris High School, an active member of First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Bluegrass Garden Club, and the Lynnwood Homemakers. She is survived by two daughters and sons-in-law, Nancye and Dr. Forrest Fightmaster, Paris, Kaye and David Edwards, Lynchburg, VA; four grandchildren, Sarah Fightmaster, Megan Fightmaster, Kent Edwards, Shelley Edwards; special friend, Norma Adair; and numerous nieces and nephews. Funeral services will be 2:30 pm Tues., Mar. 14, at the First Christian Church by Rev. Jeff Bell with interment in the Paris Cemetery. Casket bearers will be Kent Edwards, James Jordan, Stoner Parsons, Terry Wilson, Gordon Wilson, Burl Lovell, James Lovell, and Bob Wilson. The Seekers Sunday school class and the Tinder Harris Circle will serve as honorary bearers. Visitation will be 5 - 8 pm Mon., Mar. 13, at the church. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the programs of youth and children at First Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) of Hospice of the Bluegrass. Hinton-Turner Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Published in the Lexington Herald-Leader on 3/13/2006.
We have the first few results back from the Speak(e)s family DNA surname project. We have found some unexpected results that indicate that we may have multiple lines of Speak(e)s in the US. With so few participants, it's almost impossible to tell anything definitive yet. We need more male Speak(e)s descendants to participate in order to establish what the DNA from the various lines looks like and who is related to whom. If you are a Speakes male, or if you are related to one, please consider participation. If you have questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me and I'll be glad to explain. Roberta Estes (Speakes DNA Project Surname Administrator) restes@comcast.net
This is for Steve I did a little research and found some info on your family I could not find anything on Peters father I am wondering if Peter was his middle name. I know a lot of my Speaks relative went by their middle name. I looked on the 1900 census and I dont find him at all so I am wondering if he was under another name. I noticed on the 1910 and 1920 Calvin was listed by his middle name Henry and on the 1930 census he is listed as Calvin. You should see if you can find out where Peter died and get a copy of his death certificate and see if it has his parents names are there. Peter was a farmer he and his parents were born in Mississippi. His wife Annie and her parents were also born in Mississippi. All of their children were born Mississippi. Peter and Annie married in abt.1905 it said they had been married 5 years on the 1910 census. The biggest problem is on every census he is listed with a different age. 1910 his age is 29, 1920 his age is 33, 1930, age is 45. The same with Annie, 1910 age is 25, 1920 age is 33, 1930 age is 42. all the census are in Yazoo County, Mississippi. The township was Fugate. Peter born abt 1881 Annie born abt 1885 Children: George born abt 1906 Calvin born abt 1909 Travis born abt 1911 Willie born abt 1915 Mary born abt 1917 Mavis born abt 1919 Terry Bingham bingham3@pacbell.net
Hello everyone. I am Steve Speaks, coming to you from Schertz Tx. I am loving this new genealogy hobby I have taken up, but seem to have run into a brick wall on, oddly enough, the speaks branch of my family tree. Here's where I am at: Steve Speaks --- This would be me. Ricky Odell Speaks --- This was my dad Calvin H. Speaks --- This was Grandpa - Born 1909 in Mississippi, Died 1973 in Tennessee. I believe that Calvin's Parents were Pete and Annie Speaks, but have been unable to find any documentation to support that, or even to follow Pete or Annie's ancestory. Any help from anyone would be immensley appreciated. Steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
From my ex-husband's family: I have a Frances A Speake born February 1965 in Texas. I think her parents were Francis Alexander Speake born1828 in Kentucky and Mary Ann Hunter born 1831 in Tennessee. Based on this I have more from postings I've come across online but I need verfication that I'm going in the right direction. Can anybody help with this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nena Smothers" <smothersnena@hotmail.com> To: <SPEAKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:16 AM Subject: [Speak(e)s] RE: SPEAKS-Texas > > I have Speaks in TX, anyone have any? Nena NE Wa > some md into Miller and some into Smothers...Lavaca co > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
I have Speaks in TX, anyone have any? Nena NE Wa some md into Miller and some into Smothers...Lavaca co