I have wondered why NE Colonies seem to get huge boost in History text books whereas Virginia and SC hardly get a mention even about their Rev War participation. Wasn't JAMESTOWN before PLYMOUTH COLONY? I can only speculate that NE and US govt write the text books. josie At 08:20 PM 08/09/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Southern-Trails-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 221 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Cracker? Moi? [[email protected]] > #2 Re: Albion's Seed [[email protected]] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from Southern-Trails-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:19:08 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Cracker? Moi? >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >In a message dated 08/08/1999 6:52:07 PM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >> Fischer's scholarship seems to be quite thorough, and while exception can >> always be taken, his discussion of the four folkways is, I think, really >> enlightening and was a huge undertaking. > >I don't dispute the magnitude of Fischer's undertaking. It is nothing if not >long. Perhaps my failure is in judging his work from the anthropologist's >point of view. Cultures differ, but to judge one as superior to another is >to reveal our own prejudices and prejudice has no place in scholarship. > >I ask again, what makes the English who settled in New England so superior to >the English who settled Virginia and South Carolina? Why are the Germans of >North Carolina inferior to those of Pennsylvania? Why were both incapable of >overcoming the influence of that ungovernable horde of Scots-Irish that >began arriving in 1720? > >If I called Fischer a bigot, I'm sure he and his fans would be outraged. >Certainly McWhiney (don't you just love *that* name?) would not have found a >publisher if he had written about Italians, Poles, or African-Americans and >used an ethnic epitaph in the title as he used cracker. > >I suppose my problem is that I periodically get my fill of being a handy >target for every character who needs a quick fix for his low self esteem. >Propounding prejudices under the guise of scholarly research simply shows >that bigotry is not limited to the uneducated lower classes. Of course one >man's prejudice is another man's honest assessment, and even Robert Burns >(Horrors! A Scotsman!) couldn't persuade him to see himself as others see >him. > >Perhaps its the dog days of summer or the impending eclipse of the sun, but >this, too, shall pass. Once again I'll be able to sympathize with those >whose insecurities drive them past their limits of tolerance. My sense of >humor will return to me and I'll laugh at myself with Jeff Foxworthy while >you see yourself in Don Rickles' jokes. I'll listen to Louis Armstrong's >horn and leave you with Lawrence Welk's accordion. I'll read Faulkner, you >take Hemingway, please. > >Therefore, I hereby sentence myself to twenty lashes with a kudzu vine, but >do I have to eat scrapple? > >Joyce > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:42:59 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Albion's Seed >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >In a message dated 8/7/99 5:17:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] >writes: > >> Odd that the English settlers of New England laid the foundation for our >> freedoms while banishing or burning those who worshipped differently, while >> those in Virginia and the Carolinas and most especially those in Maryland >> were hardly worthy of mention. > >Hi Joyce again! There must be some confusion as to the book under discussion. >You say that the book by Fischer "hardly" mentions the English settlers of >VA, MD and the Carolinas. But the extremely excellent book I was talking >about, which is the paperback version (1994) of "Albion's Seed," by David >Hackett Fischer, devotes approximately one-fourth of its space to the English >settlers of Virginia and Maryland. In fact, Fischer hails originally from >Maryland's Eastern Shore, and he devotes quite a bit of discussion to his >Maryland homeland. > >Approximately another fourth of the book is devoted to the "borderers" (which >includes the Scotch-Irish), though the number of pages here is slightly less >than in the section on the Southern English. Finally, the New England >Puritans and the Delaware Valley Quakers also get about one-fourth each of >the book. So I guess you and I have read different books. > >I am still eager to read the review(s) by the critic(s) that didn't like the >book. So if you or anybody else can recall his or her name(s), please be sure >to pass it along. 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