that is so interesting - i didn't know that searching for my HODGES - a bunch of them were in the Rev War - Long Bluff, Old Cheraw dist and Cumberland/Bladen Counties. Lots of Torrie and British activity around there. If you connect to any Hodges let me know about them, thie line is most difficult. i am just learning about it - i am 65 years old. josie At 10:02 PM 08/09/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Yes, our history books leave a lot out. I remember reading in the past >year (while searching for dead relatives) that a full ten years before >the Declaration of Ind., in NC a rather well mannered mob approached the >English Governor at his home and in broad daylight, told him flat out >they were refusing to pay the latest tax levied, I think it was the >Stamp Tax. And then they got a hold of the man appointed to collect the >tax for the governor and, in what I'm sure was a highly charged moment, >got him to sign a refusal to collect the tax. I never read about that in >school either. > >Jan > >Josephine Lindsay Bass wrote: >> >> I have wondered why NE Colonies seem to get huge boost in History text >> books whereas Virginia and SC hardly get a mention even about their Rev War >> participation. >> >> Wasn't JAMESTOWN before PLYMOUTH COLONY? >> >> I can only speculate that NE and US govt write the text books. >> >> josie >> >> At 08:20 PM 08/09/1999 -0700, you wrote: >> >Southern-Trails-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 221 >> > >> >Today's Topics: >> > #1 Cracker? Moi? [[email protected]] >> > #2 Re: Albion's Seed [[email protected]] >> > >> >Administrivia: >> >To unsubscribe from Southern-Trails-D, send a message to >> > >> > [email protected] >> > >> >that contains in the body of the message the command >> > >> > unsubscribe >> > >> >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >> >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. >> > >> >______________________________X-Message: #1 >> >Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:19:08 EDT >> >From: [email protected] >> >To: [email protected] >> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> >Subject: Cracker? Moi? >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >> > >> >In a message dated 08/08/1999 6:52:07 PM Central Daylight Time, >> >[email protected] writes: >> > >> >> Fischer's scholarship seems to be quite thorough, and while exception can >> >> always be taken, his discussion of the four folkways is, I think, really >> >> enlightening and was a huge undertaking. >> > >> >I don't dispute the magnitude of Fischer's undertaking. It is nothing if >> not >> >long. Perhaps my failure is in judging his work from the anthropologist's >> >point of view. Cultures differ, but to judge one as superior to another is >> >to reveal our own prejudices and prejudice has no place in scholarship. >> > >> >I ask again, what makes the English who settled in New England so superior >> to >> >the English who settled Virginia and South Carolina? Why are the Germans of >> >North Carolina inferior to those of Pennsylvania? Why were both incapable >> of >> >overcoming the influence of that ungovernable horde of Scots-Irish that >> >began arriving in 1720? >> > >> >If I called Fischer a bigot, I'm sure he and his fans would be outraged. >> >Certainly McWhiney (don't you just love *that* name?) would not have found a >> >publisher if he had written about Italians, Poles, or African-Americans and >> >used an ethnic epitaph in the title as he used cracker. >> > >> >I suppose my problem is that I periodically get my fill of being a handy >> >target for every character who needs a quick fix for his low self esteem. >> >Propounding prejudices under the guise of scholarly research simply shows >> >that bigotry is not limited to the uneducated lower classes. Of course one >> >man's prejudice is another man's honest assessment, and even Robert Burns >> >(Horrors! A Scotsman!) couldn't persuade him to see himself as others see >> >him. >> > >> >Perhaps its the dog days of summer or the impending eclipse of the sun, but >> >this, too, shall pass. Once again I'll be able to sympathize with those >> >whose insecurities drive them past their limits of tolerance. My sense of >> >humor will return to me and I'll laugh at myself with Jeff Foxworthy while >> >you see yourself in Don Rickles' jokes. I'll listen to Louis Armstrong's >> >horn and leave you with Lawrence Welk's accordion. I'll read Faulkner, you >> >take Hemingway, please. >> > >> >Therefore, I hereby sentence myself to twenty lashes with a kudzu vine, but >> >do I have to eat scrapple? >> > >> >Joyce >> > >> >______________________________X-Message: #2 >> >Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:42:59 EDT >> >From: [email protected] >> >To: [email protected] >> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> >Subject: Re: Albion's Seed >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >> > >> >In a message dated 8/7/99 5:17:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] >> >writes: >> > >> >> Odd that the English settlers of New England laid the foundation for our >> >> freedoms while banishing or burning those who worshipped differently, >> while >> >> those in Virginia and the Carolinas and most especially those in Maryland >> >> were hardly worthy of mention. >> > >> >Hi Joyce again! There must be some confusion as to the book under >> discussion. >> >You say that the book by Fischer "hardly" mentions the English settlers of >> >VA, MD and the Carolinas. But the extremely excellent book I was talking >> >about, which is the paperback version (1994) of "Albion's Seed," by David >> >Hackett Fischer, devotes approximately one-fourth of its space to the >> English >> >settlers of Virginia and Maryland. In fact, Fischer hails originally from >> >Maryland's Eastern Shore, and he devotes quite a bit of discussion to his >> >Maryland homeland. >> > >> >Approximately another fourth of the book is devoted to the "borderers" >> (which >> >includes the Scotch-Irish), though the number of pages here is slightly less >> >than in the section on the Southern English. Finally, the New England >> >Puritans and the Delaware Valley Quakers also get about one-fourth each of >> >the book. So I guess you and I have read different books. >> > >> >I am still eager to read the review(s) by the critic(s) that didn't like the >> >book. So if you or anybody else can recall his or her name(s), please be >> sure >> >to pass it along. Thanks in advance! >> > >> >Best regards, Jim Brown ([email protected]) >> > >> [email protected] >> 216 Beach Park Lane >> Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 >> >> Home of The *HARRISON* Repository & *MY FAMILY* >> http://moon.ouhsc.edu/rbonner/harintro.htm >> My Family WWW: http://moon.ouhsc.edu/rbonner/index.htm >> LINDSAY & HARRISON Surnames & CSA-HISTORY Roots Mail List >> GENCONNECT: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html >> >> Data Managed by beautiful daughter Becky Bass Bonner and me, Josephine >> Lindsay Bass >> >> ==== Southern-Trails Mailing List ==== >> Rootsweb is Free! But Rootsweb is supported by volunteers and >> contributions. Show your support and become a member. 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