At 07:45 PM 8/5/99 +0000, you wrote: >My two cents worth (not worth any more!). I had Keowns who came to Abbeville area >around 1770, and married into Youngs who were also from Ireland, (and connected to >Keowns in the old country)..as were the McCurdy's....and I am failrly sure they >all came directly to Charleston from the old country. By the turn of the century >they all went to the Bowling Green Area of Ky, later down into Tn, Ala. I find >others with the same names, and would almost swear they were related, but they >came through Pa-Va. Another name was McDonald. My Matthew PICKENS Young married >Martha (Patsy) McDonald in Ky. I know he was SC but can't figure out which group >of McDonalds were hers. >But there were some who came directly into SC from Ireland. Jean > first, I am not a Young. I have gathered bits of info on that surname because I come across it so often in connection with my families. In 1840 Giles township, Van Buren Co Arkansas census - I have been amazed at some of the first settlers, how they connect together. Young is one of those families. A Young was in Franklin Co VA ca 1790s, along with my Potter family, also Owen, Estes, Renfro, etc. These same names are in Arkansas together in 1840. I do not know where they went between 1790 and 1840 - perhaps Tennessee. Also, there is a Young family on early frontier of what would become eastern TN. They seem to be coming out of Shenandoah Valley of Va and maybe PA before that. Possibly they were a German family. Remember, many of those German speaking people their names were changed to more English names. I have not been able to find a connection between the two groups, but there could be. I assumed that Young was such a common name, there were more than one family. the ones in Franklin Co Va might have gone into North Carolina. I know that some of the ones in eastern TN (early times it was Washington Co VA, then NC), many seem to have gone into Kentucky and spread west from there. I have found that the two different groups of Potter, one group going to KY and then Illinois and MO, another thru TN to Arkansas.....they were all the same family before Rev War in VA. the same with Owen and Estes. Some went one way, some the other. Some of the Young in Shenandoah Valley of VA I have been told were Irish, but I swear I think some were German speaking. No proof, but I think there were more than one family. Isn't this fun? Here is something for you..... I will not give all of it now, but I have the confession of a John Young 1792 - Winchester, Va.....who was executed near Winchester, VA 19 Oct 1792 for horsestealing.. I John Young, was born in Baltimore county, Maryland; my father occupied a small farm. He died when I was about 20 and my mother when I was about 16 years of age. ...... he wrote a letter to his wife and sons. Seems he left Maryland for Virginia, mentions Berkeley county, working for Jarvis Shirley, moved to a place adjoining the late General Lee's plantation, went to Roane County, NC, lived on the river ADKIN, . then went near Hancock - town Maryland, sent to Fredericktown goal, escaped and moved his family to Orange county, Virginia. In his 4th year there, again got in with a bad group and began stealing horses. Mentions crossing Shenandoah river with the law after him, stole a horse here and there trying to get away, one from a Mr Davis of Orange, later one from Henry Miller of Berkeley county, and one from a Mr. Kendrick on Shenandoah river. Sold both those horses in Petersburg, then he was caught and finally executed in Winchester, Va. (how this man got around). Then this..... Shenandoah Counmty Base Born Children, Orphans & Poor William Young, orphan of Edwin Young, bound to Joseph B Billings, trade of clock and watchmaker William Young, bound to Jacob Fry, trade of clock making, bounding to Joseph B Billings resinded.... Anyway, you are correct that there were several different groups with Young surname. I have also seen a lot of Cowen surname, various spellings in early Shen. Valley of VA - is that similar to Keowns? Also, one more point. Does Campbell sound Scottish? Well, there is a Campbel family in early records who was German speaking, and eventually some of them began to spell it Campbell - so you cannot always tell by the way the name ended up exactly where they came from. Mary [email protected]