Hi, in my mom's family records she had some Stone records gatherred by Grace Ramage Livingston and she was calling Stones and Careys kin. Also, Hawthorne Ramage had a farm in Erath and/or Bosque county , Texas . His son Jewell farmed with him ant was American Legion or VFW commandedr in Hico, Hamilton county, Texas. Teh Ramage farms were in the Black Stump Valley on the Duffau Creek watershed and one 40 acre field was on top of a flat top mountain- had a very tricky road to get there.We and they were raising Hairy Vetch in Speltz Wheat as a fertilizer- nitrogen fixer and only 2 or 3 counties in Texas can raise it for seed and save the seed to sell to others who plow it under green for fertilizer. I never dreamed I might be kin to some in Erath County of mom's Arkansas roots who she and dad knew in Texas. Not sure mom and dad did- farmers during WW2 were too busy to worry about records and distant kin. Dad was only related by marriage with roots in other areas. Jewell moved to the Red River Valley and He or some kin are back in the Hico area. I think one E mail said his mother, Hawthorne married a Laney, sister to Cal Laney. Another Ramage family run an appliance store in Colorado City, Texas and he said he had Arkansas roots and seemed to know some of the Texas Black Stump Valley Ramages. Grace Ramage Livingstone called Nancy Elizabeth Stone Carey "Aunt Sis and Aunt Liz", so, if Grace was not a Carey descendant she was a Stone descendant. Jasper Newton Carey b. 1848, Henderson County Tenn. d. 9/20/1882 in Nashville, Ark. he M. Nancy Elizabeth Stone b. 11/5/1851 d.11/5/1851 in Bedford Tenn. d. 11.1951 in Huckaby , Texas- second husband J.T. Lewis. Nancy and Jasper were my great grandparents. Jasper's brother was wounded at the Civil War Battle of Pea Ridge , Ark. and laid amopng corpses for 3 days before a burial detail saw him move. He recoverred and kept books for his daughter's store near Pine Mountain, Ark. Mom once lived in Pea Ridge, Texas. If you want exact dates and more info I will take a little more time and get some specifics. Take care, Charles A. wyly On Tue, 22 May 2001 22:45:02 -0500 "armenta" <armenta@brightok.net> writes: > Charles, which Ramage family are you talking of. How are you related > to them, and where are they located. My brother is married to a > Ramage. It is an unusual name. > > Armenta....... > > Charles, Thank you for the information about the Wire Road. I find > it useful. > > Armenta............ > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >