Hi, Jerry, guess you know my Coffee ancestor was the mother of Col. Ben Cleveland of Rev. War . Are you on the Coffee - coffey unofficial mailing list? Some on here are. Col. John Coffee Hayes , Texas Rangers, who fought off a band of Indians from the 6740 acre Red granite mountain- Enchanted Rock- near Marble Falls, Texas. Some say he was named for a Confederate Army officer , Coffee, and others say he was a Coffee descendant. Wonder if both are right if one followed t2 or more lines of Coffees?? Take care, Charles A. wyly On Tue, 8 May 2001 08:48:57 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> writes: > My great grandfather Joshua David Coffee was in the 14th Brigade > of the > Orangeville Independent Home Guard in Fannin County Texas. They > were known > as "heel-flies" by the local people. They had the authority of > unlimited > search and seizure and were mainly used to round up diserters and > draft > dodgers from the Confederate Army. They often hung them on the spot. > They > were similar to a Confederate "gestapo". After the War of Southern > Indepandence was over, the Federal Authorities considered these men > Confederate guerillas and were to de arrested and possibly hung. The > Home > Guard brigade escorted a number of the prisoners to Fort Towson in > the > Indian Territory. This abandoned Union Army garrison was being used > by the > Confederate Army as a prison camp. > > In 1865, the Union League was formed in "Five Corners Area" of > Collin, > Grayson, Hunt and Fannin Counties and hostilities continued between > that > organization and Confederate sympathsizers until 1875. This area > of Texas > did not vote to secede from the Union in 1860 but was compelled to > by the > Texas Confederate government. My great grandfather migrated to > the Texas > frontier in Brown County in 1877 to avoid repriations imposed by the > Federals and the contining strife in the Five Corners area. My > great > grandfather's older brother, Sgt. John James Coffee, maigrated to > McDonald > County Missouri, then back to Texas near Lubbock later in the > century. > > My father told me that Joshua hardly spoke of his activities in > the > Home Guard, that is probably because he told my father that he > never took > the oath to The Union after the war was over. In the spring of 1863, > the > 14th Brigade of the Home Guard escorted William Clarke Quantrill, > Bloody > Bill Anderson and their 500 man regiment of irregular light cavalry > out of > Texas from their camp on Little Mineral Creek in Grayson County. > They were > in Texas after they fled Missouri following the Lawrence Kansas > Raid and > wintered near Holland Coffee's Trading Post on the Red River. > General > Henry Eustace McCullough was the cammander of the Home Guard Units > in the > North Texas District with Headquarters in Bonham, Texas. According > to > evidence found after an investigation the Butts' killing, it was > determined > that some of Quantrill's men robbbed and murdered Sophia > Suttonfield-Coffee-Porter-Butts' husband, Colonel Butts, when he was > returning from a cotton sale in Sherman, Texas. General McCullough > after > hearing the evidence, sent the Orangeville Independent Home Guard to > arrest > the murderers and return them to Sherman for trial. During the trip > to > Sherman, the Home Guard received a dispatch from McCullough's > Bonham > Headquarters to escort the men to the Indian Territory and release > them on > the condition that they never come back to Texas. > > Jerry Coffee > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > > > >Hi, > >there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, > such > >as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, > and > >Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some > were > >forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. > Jesse > > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the > Rebel > >Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the > Carpetbaggers > >passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had > served in > >the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church > or > >serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse > did > >not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they > would > >"Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in > Jesse's > >"Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing > and > >dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended > from > >that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors > of > >Jesse. > > > > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad > Moxley > >and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the > >families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County. > >Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all > been > >pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas > >Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to > >Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . > > > >The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front > Guard- > >in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home > front > > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and > tried > >to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an > excuse to > >kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians > or > >"German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info > on the > >Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German > Immigrants > >massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- > the > >monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were > trying to > >get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & > Vietnam > >War- religious or Political pacificists. > > > >Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My > >Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach > in > >Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being > from > >The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who > were > >captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the > Africans > >were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything > which > >would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has > enough > >documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. > > > >Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. > > > >Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as > Whites- > >all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo > >Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units > until > >1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in > one > >of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of > the 2 > >Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who > volunteered > >as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who > marched in > >rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, > so > >they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job > and a > >chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. > > > >Take care, > >Charles .a, ?wyly > > > >On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> writes: > >> It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information > we > >> have been > >> being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time > for > >> everyone > >> to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come > >> eventually, for > >> those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, > I > >> scan each > >> post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so > >> entertaining, > >> and enjoy the camaraderie. > >> Enough 'junk' from me! > >> My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm > reasonably > >> sure > >> they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of > >> Quaker > >> families, from 1636- 1850. > >> Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about > the > >> guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in > >> Florida, and > >> eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things, > >> there was > >> also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! > >> God bless, Carolyn > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >> > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. 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