Jack Coffee Hays was named for General John Coffee of Tennessee. He is not related to the Coffee line in any way. General John Coffee was may great, great, great grandfather, David Coffee's 1st cousin, or in other words, my great, great, great, great, grandfather Peter Coffee and General John Coffee's grandfather, Joshua Coffee were brothers. General Coffee was a close friend of Andrew Jackson and savior of Jackson several times in gun battles, fist fights and at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814. President Jackson was not a very smart man. He died thinking the world was flat. Colonel Jack Coffee Hay's father served under General John Coffee in the Creek Indian war. He admired the General so much that he named his son after him. Jack Coffee Hays' parents later died of Yellow Fever then John moved to Texas, became a surveyor and later a Texas Ranger. Hays County Texas is named for him. John C. Hays was appointed as the Indian agent in Yuma, AZ and later moved to the area around Oakland CA. then laid out the township of Oakland Calif. A portrait of John C. Hays hangs in the Oakland City Hall. He became a wealthy landowner and died in California. Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... >Hi, Jerry, guess you know my Coffee ancestor was the mother of Col. Ben >Cleveland of Rev. War . Are you on the Coffee - coffey unofficial >mailing list? Some on here are. > >Col. John Coffee Hayes , Texas Rangers, who fought off a band of Indians >from the 6740 acre Red granite mountain- Enchanted Rock- near Marble >Falls, Texas. > >Some say he was named for a Confederate Army officer , Coffee, and others >say he was a Coffee descendant. Wonder if both are right if one followed >t2 or more lines of Coffees?? > >Take care, >Charles A. wyly > >On Tue, 8 May 2001 08:48:57 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> writes: >> My great grandfather Joshua David Coffee was in the 14th Brigade >> of the >> Orangeville Independent Home Guard in Fannin County Texas. They >> were known >> as "heel-flies" by the local people. They had the authority of >> unlimited >> search and seizure and were mainly used to round up diserters and >> draft >> dodgers from the Confederate Army. They often hung them on the spot. >> They >> were similar to a Confederate "gestapo". After the War of Southern >> Indepandence was over, the Federal Authorities considered these men >> Confederate guerillas and were to de arrested and possibly hung. The >> Home >> Guard brigade escorted a number of the prisoners to Fort Towson in >> the >> Indian Territory. This abandoned Union Army garrison was being used >> by the >> Confederate Army as a prison camp. >> >> In 1865, the Union League was formed in "Five Corners Area" of >> Collin, >> Grayson, Hunt and Fannin Counties and hostilities continued between >> that >> organization and Confederate sympathsizers until 1875. This area >> of Texas >> did not vote to secede from the Union in 1860 but was compelled to >> by the >> Texas Confederate government. My great grandfather migrated to >> the Texas >> frontier in Brown County in 1877 to avoid repriations imposed by the >> Federals and the contining strife in the Five Corners area. My >> great >> grandfather's older brother, Sgt. John James Coffee, maigrated to >> McDonald >> County Missouri, then back to Texas near Lubbock later in the >> century. >> >> My father told me that Joshua hardly spoke of his activities in >> the >> Home Guard, that is probably because he told my father that he >> never took >> the oath to The Union after the war was over. In the spring of 1863, >> the >> 14th Brigade of the Home Guard escorted William Clarke Quantrill, >> Bloody >> Bill Anderson and their 500 man regiment of irregular light cavalry >> out of >> Texas from their camp on Little Mineral Creek in Grayson County. >> They were >> in Texas after they fled Missouri following the Lawrence Kansas >> Raid and >> wintered near Holland Coffee's Trading Post on the Red River. >> General >> Henry Eustace McCullough was the cammander of the Home Guard Units >> in the >> North Texas District with Headquarters in Bonham, Texas. According >> to >> evidence found after an investigation the Butts' killing, it was >> determined >> that some of Quantrill's men robbbed and murdered Sophia >> Suttonfield-Coffee-Porter-Butts' husband, Colonel Butts, when he was >> returning from a cotton sale in Sherman, Texas. General McCullough >> after >> hearing the evidence, sent the Orangeville Independent Home Guard to >> arrest >> the murderers and return them to Sherman for trial. During the trip >> to >> Sherman, the Home Guard received a dispatch from McCullough's >> Bonham >> Headquarters to escort the men to the Indian Territory and release >> them on >> the condition that they never come back to Texas. >> >> Jerry Coffee >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> >> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... >> >> >> >Hi, >> >there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, >> such >> >as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, >> and >> >Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some >> were >> >forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. >> Jesse >> > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the >> Rebel >> >Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the >> Carpetbaggers >> >passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had >> served in >> >the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church >> or >> >serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse >> did >> >not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they >> would >> >"Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in >> Jesse's >> >"Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing >> and >> >dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended >> from >> >that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors >> of >> >Jesse. >> > >> > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad >> Moxley >> >and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the >> >families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County. >> >Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all >> been >> >pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas >> >Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to >> >Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . >> > >> >The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front >> Guard- >> >in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home >> front >> > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and >> tried >> >to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an >> excuse to >> >kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians >> or >> >"German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info >> on the >> >Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German >> Immigrants >> >massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- >> the >> >monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were >> trying to >> >get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & >> Vietnam >> >War- religious or Political pacificists. >> > >> >Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My >> >Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach >> in >> >Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being >> from >> >The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who >> were >> >captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the >> Africans >> >were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything >> which >> >would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has >> enough >> >documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. >> > >> >Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. >> > >> >Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as >> Whites- >> >all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo >> >Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units >> until >> >1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in >> one >> >of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of >> the 2 >> >Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who >> volunteered >> >as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who >> marched in >> >rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, >> so >> >they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job >> and a >> >chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. >> > >> >Take care, >> >Charles .a, ?wyly >> > >> >On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> writes: >> >> It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information >> we >> >> have been >> >> being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time >> for >> >> everyone >> >> to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come >> >> eventually, for >> >> those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, >> I >> >> scan each >> >> post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so >> >> entertaining, >> >> and enjoy the camaraderie. >> >> Enough 'junk' from me! >> >> My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm >> reasonably >> >> sure >> >> they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of >> >> Quaker >> >> families, from 1636- 1850. >> >> Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about >> the >> >> guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in >> >> Florida, and >> >> eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things, >> >> there was >> >> also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! >> >> God bless, Carolyn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> >> >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the >> #1 >> >Source for Family History Online. 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