hI, Someone got a date wrong. He served in the Civil War and washanged Oct.11, 1878, so he was bornHe must have been born before 1850. . The photo in this paper shows with a Black Beard (Narrow Goatee) and heavy black moustashe. He was hanged for killing Wilson Anderson,one of his 32 victims. My grandson is 19 and sported a beard and mustashe for a few months, He is six feet and did weigh over 250 when he played football 5 years ago. He is not fat, just big boned and muscled. Great Grandad Robert Augustine Wyly marched into the Battle of Shiloh as a Drummer, age 13 and marched out as a soldier with a gun. He lived to be 93 and died in Tulsa, 1937 of Typhoid, caught from a well. His brother James Allen Wyly was in the same battle, His Uncle Capt. Ben F. Wyly , lost an eye in the Battle of Knoxville and lived into his late 80's, buried in Comanche County, Texas. Oliver Cromwell Wyly, their dad, sent a letter to the Gov. of Georgia promising 3000 gallons of fine Whiskey for the troops,( His brother and son Ran the Wyly Wholesale Grocery in Atlanta. O.C.soon joined as a Captain and returned to Habersham County where he piled a trunk full of Confederate money in his yard and burned it. So far as age goes, my wife's grandfather was born abt 1850 in Ireland , James Whitcomb O'Riley, stowed awayn on a ship and the Captain signed him on as a Sheet Metal (Tinker) Aprentice in New York Harbor. He moved top Cleburne, Texas and died in 1893, leaving 2 sets of Children. My wife was born in Pettit, Texas in 1936 whgen her dad was about 50. Also, Ben F. Wyly's grandson drove 3000 head of sheep to San Angelo, Texas, age 17 and deliverred them to former owners of Stephenville, Tx Cage and Crow Bank- they swapped the sheep for Erath County property. He had to stay up some nights with a rifle, age 17 to keep cattlemen from riding in and shooting the sheep. That was 1887. My wife's dad had 4 years of Schoolhousing, but could add 2 columns of Cotton weight or calf prices in his head faster than I could write them. At age 12 or so he was buying cattle around Glen Rose and driving them back across the Brazos to the Cleburne Slaughter House. Sometimes I do not think every child should be in a computerized classroom to age 18 - He coulds be learning more in a Cooperative Education Class or working. A man in Hill County said an Eye Hoe in a Johnson Grass infested cotton patch would cure Juvenile Delinquency and provide motivation to find a better life. Charles A. Wyly On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:27:27 -0600 Peter Selph/Kathy Duncan <ppskdd2@airmail.net> writes: > Charles: > > You are the person to ask about Wild Bill Longley. > > The Dallas Morning News article in today's paper > says that Longley was hanged in 1878 at the age of > 27 and that he was "one of the West's bloodiest > pre-Civil War outlaws. I've never been very good > at math, but just how bloody a career can someone > manage before the age of 10?! And did he enlist > near the beginning of The War or the end? Was he > just a drummer boy? > > The Dallas Morning News also has a picture of full > skeletal remains for Longley, exhumed in 1998--not > just a tooth. In fact, they used his remains to disprove > a one of Longley's wild stories that he had been > shot in the mouth: "'That didn't happen because he's > got beautiful teeth and didn't lose any of them,' > Dr. Owsley said." > > They matched the DNA of the skeleton to the DNA of > Helen Chapman, a great-grand daughter of Longley's sister. > > Still there are no details about Longley's prepubescent > crime-spree and that seems like the most interesting > part of the story!! :) > > In any event, it looks like Ted Wax is going to have to > give up and do some real research on his Brown family!! > Can't blame him for trying to turn his Brown's into > Longleys--Brown has got to be the worst name on the planet > to research. It's right up there with Smith. > > Kathy Duncan > > wyly1@juno.com wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > never heard of him? His life was depicted in the 1950's TV movie > or > > programs called THE TEXAN. He was born WILLIAM PRESTON (WILD > BILL) > > LONGLEY and was a veteran of the Civil WarHe was hanged and > buried in > > Giddings, Texas in 1878The story persisted that the sheriff was > bribed to > > put some leather harness under his shirt and fake a hanging. TEXAS > HAS > > NEVER HAD PUBLIC HANGINGS, ACCORDING TO h. GRADY PERRY, State > Rep. from > > Erath County. The scaffold was prepared as crowds of families > gatherred > > to watch. Blinds were raised around the actual hanging site. The > criminal > > was marched in vew of the crowd, Blinds were raised for > > privacy,thehanging took place, and the blinds or privacy shields > were > > dropped after he was pronounced dead for all to see as a crime > prevention > > and education method. > > > > Ted Wax of .Gonzales, la. claimed he was a grandson of CAPT. JOHN > > CALHOUN BROWN, a prosperous planter of Bienville Parrish , La. > This line > > followed the idea that a box of Rocks were in Wild Bill's grave in > Texas. > > BROOKS ELWOOD, Chairman of Genealoogy Dept of Louisiana State > > Universith started investigating and somehow got the Smithsonian > > Institute interested. They used imaging equipment to find Bill's > grave in > > Giddings , as the family knew where it was- but his headstone had > been > > moved as some objected to be buried by a criminal. - moved twice, > > according toplats and historians. The Grave was not moved. > > > > When LSU and the Smithsonian excavated the grave recently, they > found > > decayed clothing, boot heels (tops had rotted) and a tooth. Bones > had > > decayed too much to test(?)According to DNA testing on the tooth > and > > known descendants of Mr. Longley, they are 100% sure this was a > Longley, > > and 95.something% that it was Wild Bill, not a box of rocks for a > fake > > funeral. ( I know of one Texas Cemetery where Blacks and whites > are > > buried in same cemetery, but several graves of white Cattle > Rustlers are > > buried down the road to themselves. I do not know if they were > hanged > > legally or by Vigilantes during the days that the Reconstrution > days > > sheriff and deputies stayed close to the office unless in groups. > > > > Does anyone have a Geneaology chart which shows these percentages > of > > accuracy? According to this report, Jesse James DNA proof should > be 95% > > accurate, decreasing each generation. If it did not , all us > Coffee or > > Cleveland or Wyly or Sevier or Miller or Harris cousins or > Copeland or > > Carey or Hipp cousins. would have the same DNA. Any answers? > > > > Scientists and archeologists and Geneaologists worked on this > grave and > > family testing for 15 months before issueing their final report. > > > > The past is fun to read about and profit from their mistakes once > we > > recognize them, and also for hereditary disease predictions, but I > just > > wish we would SPEND AS MUCH TIME FINDING OUR SOLDIERS IN KOREA > AND > > vIETNAM, ALIVE OR DEAD. Ask most Jr. High and many High School > kids when > > and where was the Korean War and they will askif it was before or > After > > WW1? I taught 33 years and have been Substituting since 1989. > Korea and > > Vietnam had many lessons we could learn if we just quit ignoring > its > > lessons. We did not ride down and shoot Vets who went to Canada to > avoid > > the draft as some did on both sides , making their own law as they > went > > along. I did not agree with them but they have the same freedonm > to their > > ideas as I doo to mine, . > > > > SOURCE OF LONGLEY INFO; > > > > Waco Tribune- Herald, June 14, 2001, from Cox News Service, Stphen > Krupin > > , reporter. > > > > > > Take care, > > Charles A. Wyly > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & > Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >