My great granddad was listed as a teamster in the 1860 census of Fannin County Texas. That is all he did from when he was 14 years old until he retired about 1910. He drove for a freight company in the Pilot Knob area of Grayson County Texas from about 1857 to 1875. The freight company was owned by the Clements which was some of John Wesley Hardin's cousins. Clement's half brother was named Bob Johnson and he drove a freight wagon also. One of the Clements was killed in the Lee-Peacock Feud after the Civil War. My great grandad later migrated to Coleman County in 1877 and drove a freight wagon from Brownwood to San Angelo, Texas. He also drove freight and supplies from San Angelo Texas to the headquarters of the Door Key Ranch. The Door Key Ranch was one of the largest ranches on the Texas frontier in the late 1800's. The Goodnight-Loving Trail passed through the Door Key Ranch and their cattle joined John Chisum's trail herds as they moved the herds from Central Texas to the Pecos River and north to Wyoming . Chisum eventually established the Jinglebob Ranch near Roswell, New Mexico. Remnants of the Door Key Ranch are still there today. John Chisum was a well liked man and pioneer rancher in west Texas and New Mexico. When Chisum left the Concho Valley Ranch in Coleman County Texas, he established his Jinglebob Ranch in New Mexico that ran for 150 miles along the Pecos River. Chisum died in Arkansas of a neck tumor and is buried in Paris, Texas. My great grandmother was killed in 1884 on one of my great grandad's freight wagons when the team ran off with her on the seat. After that, my great grandad would never allow anyone on the seat if the wagon was unattended. Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: wyly1@juno.com <wyly1@juno.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Quoted >Hi, >sorry, what I said about Mr. Rocky Martin being a stagecoach driver and >freighter, as was one of the Uncles of Homer Stevens, who also ox carted >freight to Fort Graham and Fort Griffin via Chalk Mountain, where he and >family lived in Panther Cave. Ever been there? all came from H. Grady >Perry's book GRAND OLE ERATH, . He was raised in the rural area around >Dublin and ran the Three Way (Johnsville) Store and was a State >Representative in Austin, where he gatherred info from State Records. He >was a Hurley grandchild. > >I mentioned several different Martin families for someone who asked- I >have no reason to know if they were related and do not think they all >were- . I forget- for 300 years now we have always been told that anyone >who spelled our name Wyly were kin. Then a small family showed up in S.C. >with same Irish and Quaker background which an Australian Wyly descendant >plans to try to prove on his trip to Europe this summer that Grandad >was right and the 3 Wyly immigrants were cousins if not brothers. We >know 2 were brothers. > >I was rather small when they were active and much I knew about them came >from my dad at Johnsville and Uncle and Grandad at Selden. > >Once again if I was a little confused on this one, but I thought I said >that I was listing several Martin Families and did not say nor have >reason to believe they were connected. I just thought the inquirer might >find a missing link they were hunting. > >Take care, >Charles A. Wyly > > >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:10:45 -0600 john martin <jdmartin@zianet.com> >writes: >> My uncle Blackie Martin really Lewis Lee Martin, was married to Mont >> Thomas's daughter. Uncle Blackie was deputy sheriff under Mont >> Thomas >> and later sheriff in his own right. >> >> You have yet to get right anything you say about this family. >> Perhaps everything else you write is wrong also! >> John Martin >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> Do you have the Selden, Erath County Picketts? Also, I goofed this >> morning. I said that Blackie Martin and Carl Turnbow were kin, There >> was >> also a Mont Thomas. They were all Erath County law officers and >> cattle >> Traders. Mr. Thomas ran it when I was in High School and my Stone >> cousins used to skip school and buy a calf to resell or take home to >> a >> nurse cow, sometimes with 2 to 4 calves on each cow. Pretty good >> part >> time job which taught responsibility. >> >> I am not sure which two of the 3 above were kin- all 3 may have >> been. >> >> Take care, >> Charles A. Wyly >> >> >> ============================== >> Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >