Thanks, I forgot to mention that Jesse James's father was a Baptist minister and jesse would not allow a drunk to ride with him as they would get you killed. A Proff fro U. of Minn , St. Paul, wrote a book advancing the premisis that some who robbed the Northfield bank were drunk, all wore masks, and Jessee was seen elsewhere too far away for him to have been there. Missouri Carpetbag rule said no Minister who was connected in any way could continue to pastor a church and hold Weddings and Funerals. so Jesse's dad lost his pastorate. His Choctaw Mom lost an arm from a bomb meant for her son. When Lincoln was elected President, there were 3 Political Parties- Recent German Immigrants and Sons of Hermann or Hermanson Lodges all over the U.S. supported the Third Party Candidate- was it Buchannan or Breckenridge? The Texas Germans my Coffee Cousin mentioned were straight from the Aborptive Revolution in Germany and Followed Prince Solms - Braunfels to Indianola, and a Sons of Hermann Plantation in Fayette County then spread all over the Texas Hill Country, then to Malone, Muenster, Brenham, Bremond, Kaufman, Blanket, Comfort, Sisterdale, Boerne, Fredricksburg, Boerne, Taylor, Westphalia, West, Pep, Lohn, San Marcos, San Saba, Seguin and others. These , on the average, had a Junior College or Equivalent education and published so their undereducated neighbors, some German, were suspicious of folk who read and Spoke and Wrote German. When the Young men left for the Confederate Army and all Union Troops left frontier Forts, the Indians from All Directions including Oklahoma moved back in and few settlers stayed west of Erath County unless they were Intermarried with Indian. Texas organized by counties, such as the Erath County Minute men, led by a Keith, I think. \the Confederate Govt. organized the Partizan Rangers as a Home Fromt Guard to protect settlers from marauding Raiders, Comanchero and Comanche and Apache. Lt. McRae was the officially appointed leader- until an outcast from Ireland and the U.S. Army , a Mr. Dunn, was elected by volunteers to be Captain. At this time Gov. Lubbock of Texas announced a 30 day period for all citizens to take an oath of Alegiance to the Confederacy. Now, if you were in the Colorado or Concho River Valley and came to town to get your mail at the U.S. Post Office (They stayed open nationwide) , then you had already been an outlaw for 30 days and didn't know it. The Texans, some holding slaves as indentured servants earning their freedom and education, were of 3 groups. Some went north to the Union Army. Some joined the Confederate ,Army and a third group were planning to be across the Rio Grande in 30 days. On about the 25 th day. this group (Their names were on a Monument - or are, on the old Comfort High School grounds) were truster to Der Union- True to the Union, but otired of fighting overseas. They were like our boys in the last 3 "\wars" who went to avoid the draft. They were massacred by Dunn's men , some captured, and, aft Lt. McRae and his faithful were sent out chasing imaginary prisoners, Dunn and a few rowdies shot or hanged all captives , then built a Barb Wire Stockade at New Braunfels for the wives and children. These bones were gatherred 4 years later and buried in Comfort. This did little to control the Indians as many German Youth like Hermann Lehmann were captured from their homes which Dunn was not guarding and stripped and tied on bareback ponies. He and a sister survived. They rode fast, ate road kill or fruit or wild eggs, tied the children's legs around a tree by the ankles for sleep, and in 3 dau=us they were from the German area to Big Spring , Texas Babies who cried enough to be heard were grabbed by a brave on each side, removed from the horse, thrown into the Air and were trampled by the Indian's ponies. Mr. Hehman was repatriated as an older teenager and one night in Kerrville , he attended a Methodist Revivalin the street. He got carrioed away, stood up on the back bench and let out a bloodcurdling War Whoop . He emptied the street without an Amen. Take Care, Charles A. Wyly On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:39:25 -0500 skm <flintlock@kcnet.com> writes: > Thank You sir. Very well stated!! > > wyly1@juno.com wrote: > > > Hi, they were Northern agents sent to reconstruct the South. They > had a > > type of luggage that looked like carpet. A few were honest, but > many were > > very political and plotted to keep the opposing party from voting. > In > > Hill County, Texas , a carpetbagger manipulated the elections by > > declaring all Confederates as traitors and unable to vote. One > officer > > of Hood's Texas Brigade was an object of a posse of several,Black > > deputies who were sent out to arrest the man, He faced them down > > singlehandedly, promising to shoot the first Deputy who drew a > gun. They > > were also victims of Confiscatory adjusted taxes. > > > > A major cause of the James Brothers, Daltons and Youngers > converting > > from Army Gorillas and foragers to outlaw was due to armed > Carpetbaggers > > trying to confiscate Confederate family property. Many > Carpetbaggers > > from "Bleeding Kansas" were sent into Missouri with promise of > political > > power and favoritism at the ex > > > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:20 -0500 "Rachael/Lisa" > <rachael@iswt.com> > > writes: > > > Hello: > > > I have heard that expression alot. Just what is a carpetbagger? > > > I want to know. I live in Tn. and have heard that word in > derogatory > > > alot. > > > But noone ever said just what it meant exactly. > > > Lisa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "skm" <flintlock@kcnet.com> > > > To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 9:49 > > > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > > > > > > > > > > When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly rebuild > it, > > > all > > > they had > > > > to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a > southern > > > sympathizer > > > > and the farm and possessions were taken. > > > > This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I agree, > > > > the distrust of southern > > > > people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. > > > > > > > > Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, > much > > > of > > > Tennessee > > > > > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal > > > > > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal > > > great-grandfather > > > fought > > > > > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four > g-g-uncles, > > > brothers, > > > who > > > > > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the > Union > > > and two > > > for > > > > > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the > > > Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County > > > > > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many > such > > > stories > > > from > > > > > that area and that era. 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I am a distant relative of Herman Lehmann and I wanted to make a small correction. According to family history as well as a book written by Herman Lehmann himself, only Herman and his brother Willie were captured by the Indians. Their two little sisters, Augusta and Carolina, escaped back to their home from the field they were in after the Indians shot at them but missed. Herman was 11 yrs old and Willie was 8 years old. They lived on a large tract of land on Squaw Creek near Fredericksburg, Texas. Their parents (Ernst Mortiz Lehman and Augusta Johanna Adams) immigrated from Germany in 1846. Willie escaped from captivity after 9 days of horrible treatment, including being forced to ride bare naked on a bucking bronco. Hermann stayed with the Indians for 9 years, moving from tribe to tribe, eventually being adopted by Quannah Parker. Herman was lead to believe that his mother and sisters were killed as well as his brother Willie. (His father had died many years earlier before they were captured and his mother had remarried a man named Philip Buchmeyer.) Herman was reunited with his family years later and continued his friendly relationship with Quannah Parker. We have family photographs of Herman in his Indian headdress complete with feathers and all. The Indians had returned to Herman's home on several occasions and finally burned it to the ground, but not before his mother shot 2 of the Indians with a shotgun. The family then moved to Loyal Valley in Mason County, Texas where Herman and the rest of his family are buried. (There is a Texas Historical Marker at the cemetery where they are buried) The story about Herman yelling at a revival is true. He always liked to put on a show for the towns people. Many people were afraid of him. He had a hard time adjusting to a "normal lifestyle" after his return, often sleeping outside on the ground instead of in a warm bed. He could speak no English or his native German tongue when he returned. He did not even recognize his own family. Herman's original story was published in 1899 by Johnson Brothers Printing Company in San Antonio, Texas titled "Indianology" and written by Judge Jonathan H. Jones of Mason County, Texas. Here are some books about Herman Lehmann if anyone is interested. "9 Years Among the Indians 1870-1879" by Herman Lehmann originally published in 1927 by Von Boeckmann-Jones. University of New Mexico Press ISBN 0-8263-1417-1 "One of the very best captivity narratives ever published on the Apaches and Commanches." "The Last Captive" by A. C. Greene Copyright 1972 The Encino Press "Children Indian Captives" by Roy D. Holt Copyright 1980 Eakin Press ISBN 0-89015-245-4 "The Life and Hardships of My Mother, Augusta Johanna Buchmeyer" by Henry W. Buchmeyer published by Triangle Publishing Co., Dallas. Vanessa Kierce Burzynski Texas wyly1@juno.com wrote: This did little to control the Indians as many German Youth like Hermann Lehmann were captured from their homes which Dunn was not guarding and stripped and tied on bareback ponies. He and a sister survived.