Hi, Wonder if there was any connection between the Frank James you named and the Frank James who owned a ranch in south Bell County, South of Marlin? 80 year old men I attend church with said that as a boy they deer hunted there. Also, by a strange coincidence, Blevins,,Texas is in Southwest Bell County , whare a lady has written a book saying her grandfather , a Mr. Courtney of Blevins, Texas was the real Jesse James. I thought J. Frank Dalton of Grandbury, Hood County, Texas was Jesse- his headstone says so. Anyhow, the lady who wrote the book said she inherited a trunk and in it was a photo of Jesse's mother , one arm missing, in a dress which is identical to the one his mother had on in the James museum in Missouri. Supposedly some of the Missouri DNA tests were on a tooth by as window of the James home, but it was moved from its origional site to its present site before DNA testing. She also had the Texas Dept of Criminal Justice labs in Austin check the picture in 1990's and they said it was untouched and identical to the Misouri photo. She said that when an extra chicken was needed for unexpected guests, her grandad would mount his horse with a rifle, ride full speed across a pasture, and shoot a chicken's head off for entertainment of his Guests. All her family has heard rumors about this being Jesse James but some objected violently in court to keep her from having DNA tests done on the body, preferring to let the dead rest. John Crockett of Pony Creek, Erath County, Texas and Quanah, Texas had ridden with the James Boys and Quantrills. Another, a Mullins, of Chalk Mountain, Erath County, Texas had also ridden with Quantrill. The Tombstone Epitath Newspaper of Arizona publisned a photo of J. Frank Dalton AKA Jesse James on his deathbed at Meremac Caverns , Missouri, where he worked after leaving texas. Beside his death bed was a 93 year old Col. who used to run Wild West Shows for Buffalo Bill and Calamity Jane. Standing at his head is Brushy Bill Roberts of Hico, just exactly like I knew him- hat, Bolo tie, Jacket and all . The Hico Museum has several documents that seem to prove this William Roberts had a dad who returned from the Civil War to Buffalo Gap, Texas , where he found his wife dead and his McCarty sister in law raising Little Billy in Oklahoma. The dad joined the James Gang and when Billy was 12, Jesse and others taught him how to shoot from a horse. His aunt married a Bonney and moved to New Mexico , Lincoln County, on a fork of Goodnight- Loving cattle trail, and he took the Bonney name. In later years he worked as an undercover Marshall in Frontier Fort Smith, Arkansas before returning to Hico and died there, age 93, leaning on a car. One New Mexico Judge refused to give Pat Garrett for killing "Billy" as he said he knew personally Billy was still alive;this is documented in the Hico Museum, where there is a statue of him with a pistol drawn fireing at attackers. Most say Billy Barlow was buried in his grave near Fort Sumpter with a wood headstone, like soldiers there, and all them washed away. The soldiers were moved to Fort Sump[ter and a movie company put up the present headstone there. Brushy Bill was a member of Hico Baptist Church and attended some at Carleton, Texas. Go figure which ones are the real man, Charles A. Wyly On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:29:07 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> writes: > Frank James lived at his sister's home near Savoy, Texas in Fannin > County. > That community in about 10 miles east of Denison, Texas. He hid out > there > from Federal authorities. Susan James married on of Quantrill's men > named > Parmer. He finally left is sisters home after a few months of > hiding and > went back to Missouri to stand trial. General Jo Shelby was a > character > witness for Frank James at his trial. Shelby was one of the most > beloved men > in Missouri at the time. Shelby came to the trial drunk.He came > back to the > trial later when sober and apologized. > > Jerry Coffee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: skm <flintlock@kcnet.com> > To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > > > >Another reason the JAmes bros turned was because the north put a > cannonball > >thru their house and blew off their step-mothers arm. > >Where is Jesse and Frank James body now? I know they exhumed > Jesses body > >a number of years ago, but where is it now? I asked one time why > people > were > >pecking away at a certain headstone in the Kearney, Mo. cemetery. > >It was Jesse James headstone. At one time it was quite large, but > thru the > >years > >people and their little hameers slowly whittled it away to nothing. > >Frank James(after being acquitted of all charges against him) moved > to Hot > >Springs, Ar. and worked at HAppy Hollow, with the stipulation, no > pics be > >taken. > >After that I lost track of him. The last I heard about Jesse-he > was in a > lab. > >somewhere. Can anyone help me with this? Where are the bodies? > > > >skm wrote: > > > >> Thank You sir. Very well stated!! > >> > >> wyly1@juno.com wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, they were Northern agents sent to reconstruct the South. > They had a > >> > type of luggage that looked like carpet. A few were honest, but > many > were > >> > very political and plotted to keep the opposing party from > voting. In > >> > Hill County, Texas , a carpetbagger manipulated the elections > by > >> > declaring all Confederates as traitors and unable to vote. One > officer > >> > of Hood's Texas Brigade was an object of a posse of > several,Black > >> > deputies who were sent out to arrest the man, He faced them > down > >> > singlehandedly, promising to shoot the first Deputy who drew a > gun. > They > >> > were also victims of Confiscatory adjusted taxes. > >> > > >> > A major cause of the James Brothers, Daltons and Youngers > converting > >> > from Army Gorillas and foragers to outlaw was due to armed > Carpetbaggers > >> > trying to confiscate Confederate family property. Many > Carpetbaggers > >> > from "Bleeding Kansas" were sent into Missouri with promise of > political > >> > power and favoritism at the ex > >> > > >> > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:20 -0500 "Rachael/Lisa" > <rachael@iswt.com> > >> > writes: > >> > > Hello: > >> > > I have heard that expression alot. Just what is a > carpetbagger? > >> > > I want to know. I live in Tn. and have heard that word in > derogatory > >> > > alot. > >> > > But noone ever said just what it meant exactly. > >> > > Lisa > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "skm" <flintlock@kcnet.com> > >> > > To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > > Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 9:49 > >> > > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly > rebuild it, > >> > > all > >> > > they had > >> > > > to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a > southern > >> > > sympathizer > >> > > > and the farm and possessions were taken. > >> > > > This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I > agree, > >> > > > the distrust of southern > >> > > > people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. > >> > > > > >> > > > Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > While on the subject of divided families in the Great > War, much > >> > > of > >> > > Tennessee > >> > > > > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one > paternal > >> > > > > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal > >> > > great-grandfather > >> > > fought > >> > > > > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four > g-g-uncles, > >> > > brothers, > >> > > who > >> > > > > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the > Union > >> > > and two > >> > > for > >> > > > > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the > >> > > Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County > >> > > > > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many > such > >> > > stories > >> > > from > >> > > > > that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still > run > >> > > strong in > >> > > this > >> > > > > regard. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Linda (Alabama) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ============================== > >> > > > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >> > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ============================== > >> > > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family > history > >> > > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > >> > > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ============================== > >> > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access > to the > >> > > #1 > >> > > Source for Family History Online. 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