Hi, I first read some installments of "9 years among the Indians" from either True West or Frontier Times, both edited by Dr. Walter Prescott Webb of University of Texas at Austin. 1960-70's and published by J. Austell Small of Austin. Thanks for the update. There was also a Lehmann on the monument at Comfort for the group who did not want to fight for either side, but favored stronger State's Rights within the Union. Their families were not with them. They camped out on a prairie hill with a large fire and no military style outposts. Translations of German Language Texas Newspapers and books of University of North Texas at Denton. One diary, as I remember, said they had nightly Bible Studies- Vespers, sang patriotic and religious songs, and had deep discussions of religion, politics, and patriotism,. I have never seen any proof of them planning to join Union Troops after crossing the Rio Grande. If that was their intent, they would have gone north with another group. Or, they could have followed several paths north which became Cattle Trails through New Mexico or Oklahoma Henry Dean Lehmann used to live near us in the Brandon, Hill County, Texas community, on the edge of the German Settlers from the Hill Country to the Malone- Bynum- Penelope- West Station (West) area. He had absolutely no family records . he left farming the rich Blackland and moved to Hillsboro top sell Real Estate. I showed him a copy of my NTSU Report on Texas Germans and the Civil,War, and he , his son , and wife read it cover to cover. He thought this name on the Comfort Marker were his ancestors but had no documentation. My Texas Germans were from the Stephan Hipp and 2 Brothers of Manheim, Germany area and Dutch Fork Hipps of the Carolinas, pre Revolunary War, . and the Tuggle branch of Tarrant, Tuggle and Herndon families of Bradford, England. , 400 years ago were Tugglestines in Belgium. Great Grandparents Charles Madison Hipp and Sarah Copeland were married in Huricane Bapotist Church, Clinton, Old Laurens Dist. South Carolina, where John Copeland was an Elder in the Duncan Creek Pres. church before 1760. Grandmother Nancy Eliczabeth Hipp married John Carey in Hope , Arkansas area. Also the Yowell families of Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Texas, mostly in Waco, Killeen, Corsicana and Mary Yowell Cook of Fort Worth.had Pensylvania Dutch roots. Apparently some German Yowells lives a short time in Scotland as many Scottish Quaker and Anabaptist by various native names lived in Ireland before they came to America and Australia. That sets some researchers against each other , argueing if they were German, Scottish , or Irish. Why not two or all of the above? Too many find a port of Embarcation in Europe and assume the family was there as natives for many generations. Some records show a Col. Von Moller, whose Moulder children married into Cleveland and Wyly families. Was Von Moller an officer in Germany or possibly in the Hessian Mercenary troups which were sent into the colonies by the British and some joined the Rebels? Col. Von Moller is not in Rev. War Records, but Moulders are. Any help apreciated. Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 02:01:03 -0500 Vanessa Burzynski <burzynsk@swbell.net> writes: > I am a distant relative of Herman Lehmann and I wanted to make a > small > correction. According to family history as well as a book written > by Herman > Lehmann himself, only Herman and his brother Willie were captured by > the > Indians. Their two little sisters, Augusta and Carolina, escaped > back to > their home from the field they were in after the Indians shot at > them but > missed. Herman was 11 yrs old and Willie was 8 years old. They > lived on a > large tract of land on Squaw Creek near Fredericksburg, Texas. > Their parents > (Ernst Mortiz Lehman and Augusta Johanna Adams) immigrated from > Germany in > 1846. Willie escaped from captivity after 9 days of horrible > treatment, > including being forced to ride bare naked on a bucking bronco. > Hermann > stayed with the Indians for 9 years, moving from tribe to tribe, > eventually > being adopted by Quannah Parker. Herman was lead to believe that > his mother > and sisters were killed as well as his brother Willie. (His father > had died > many years earlier before they were captured and his mother had > remarried a > man named Philip Buchmeyer.) Herman was reunited with his family > years > later and continued his friendly relationship with Quannah Parker. > We have > family photographs of Herman in his Indian headdress complete with > feathers > and all. The Indians had returned to Herman's home on several > occasions and > finally burned it to the ground, but not before his mother shot 2 of > the > Indians with a shotgun. The family then moved to Loyal Valley in > Mason > County, Texas where Herman and the rest of his family are buried. > (There is a > Texas Historical Marker at the cemetery where they are buried) The > story > about Herman yelling at a revival is true. He always liked to put > on a show > for the towns people. Many people were afraid of him. He had a > hard time > adjusting to a "normal lifestyle" after his return, often sleeping > outside on > the ground instead of in a warm bed. He could speak no English or > his native > German tongue when he returned. He did not even recognize his own > family. > Herman's original story was published in 1899 by Johnson Brothers > Printing > Company in San Antonio, Texas titled "Indianology" and written by > Judge > Jonathan H. Jones of Mason County, Texas. > > Here are some books about Herman Lehmann if anyone is interested. > > "9 Years Among the Indians 1870-1879" by Herman Lehmann originally > published > in 1927 by Von Boeckmann-Jones. University of New Mexico Press ISBN > 0-8263-1417-1 "One of the very best captivity narratives ever > published on > the Apaches and Commanches." > > "The Last Captive" by A. C. Greene Copyright 1972 The Encino Press > > "Children Indian Captives" by Roy D. Holt Copyright 1980 Eakin Press > ISBN 0-89015-245-4 > > "The Life and Hardships of My Mother, Augusta Johanna Buchmeyer" by > Henry W. > Buchmeyer published by Triangle Publishing Co., Dallas. > > > Vanessa Kierce Burzynski > Texas > > wyly1@juno.com wrote: > > This did little to control the Indians as many German Youth like > Hermann > Lehmann were captured from their homes which Dunn was not guarding > and > stripped and tied on bareback ponies. He and a sister survived. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >