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    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Passport to AL/MS @1800 & Mass Migration after the WBTS
    2. Hi, I hae known a Wylie from Grosebeck for several years. He used to be a security guard in Houston , then for the last few years he drive from Grosebeck to Waco daily to be a substitute teacher inb the Waco Schools, and expected to be put on full time. A year ago I was told he took a long term sub's position at Waco High but no one has seen him since . He told me he had as much Cherokee blood as Scotch- Irish and had studied the similarity between Celtic and Eastern Indians and thought they were very similar. Someone had contacted him- not sure who- LDS missionary or a Tribal member, or who about a possible hereditary disease found in his lineage. Whatever it was, he said he did not have it. With some Cox families of Texas the disease is PKD Kidney disease, which can kill one quickly after age 40 if the doctor does not diagnose early symptoms early enough, then it may be treatable. This Wylie has cousins in Mount Calm (Pronounced by some natives as "Mount Caalm". He told me one day he thought someone in his family had changed from Wyly or Wiley to Wylie. I have not ever seen but one posssible person who did this and she soon married , dropping any form of Wyly- Wylie- Wiley-Wylly-Wyllys- Wyllis or other dimunitives of William the Conqueror, but I have seen some records of Wyly before King William The Conqueror. Several Quaker Wylys were in Ireland and Scottish Clan Gunn And McKethan. He also said that one of the Jesse James imposters had lived in Grosebeck and the old man was another who shot a chicken's eye out from a running horse.when his wife needed chicken for supper. Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 01:47:06 -0400 "Tory Braden" <historybuff123@hotmail.com> writes: > My gggg-grandfather, Ignatius [Nace?] RUSSELL, b1779 SC, was a line > carrier > with a survey team that went into AL/MS at the turn of the 19th > century > which was, of course, GA at the time. His daughter Mary Ann Russell > McGEE > born 1803 always insisted that she was born in AL to every census > taker. > Ah, but where I would like to know. > > Georgia was bursting at the seams with pioneers who wanted to get > across the > Oconee River[near Milledgeville, Baldwin Co.; Putnam Co, Hancock Co, > Clarke > Co, Warren Co, etc]. Main indian trails followed the ridges and > river and > became the Federal Road. In 1795 the scandal of the Yazoo Land > Fraud > started. It took 20 years before the Supreme Court finalized the > mess, but > Yazoo lands were of early interest to everyone in the newly founded > country. > > Nace RUSSELL married Eleanor KIMBROUGH. Her family was one of the > first > Revolutionary families in the state and built forts to protect the > settlers > from indians, and the KIMBROUGHs and REESES supported Elijah Clarke > in his > unsuccessful attempt, short-lived thanks to the Feds, to create the > first > break-off Republic [yes, even before Goliad & TX]. They were land > hunters > and speculators all, and before the turn of the 18th century were > thinking > that the Feds were going too slow in letting the settlers cross the > Oconee > for literal greener pastures [in the immediate case, Putnam County, > home to > be of Joel Chandler Harris, Uncle Remus]. > > This is the connection I can make as to WHY Nace Russell went into > MS > territory, but WHERE is what I would like to find out. They ended > up back > in GA, Butts Co for 1830 census, and he is buried in Troupe Co. GA, > 1857 on > the AL stateline. The rest of the families down the line , by then > REESE > and WYLIE, kept moving west as land opened up [and the indians had > to leave] > in GA and AL. The biggest migration came after the War Between the > States, > during Reconstruction when they moved to East TX: Navarro, Limestone > and > Mexia Counties. > > I would like to know: what was the attraction? Was it that > Reconstruction > was less harsh in TX? LaGrange, Troupe Co, GA survived the war > itself > pretty much intact. Lowndes Co, AL [smack between Montgomery and > Selma] > faired less well because it was Gen. Braxton Bragg's home county. I > > understand the Yankees were pretty retaliatory against it [my own > theory as > to why that AL Black Belt [called that for its earth went for Jim > Crow in > such a big way once they were allowed to vote again @1895, I think.] > > As an aside, the WYLIEs from Lowndes Co., AL opened a bank in > Oakwood, TX > and it is one of the only family owned banks still left in the > country. > Oscar WYLIE was my gg-grandfather; it was his son [an uncle] who > opened the > bank. Oscar Wylie was a justice of the peace in Groesbeck. I > cannot for > the life of me imagine how they had so much money after the war > [buried the > silver with the dead?] to even get to TX, especially if they were > having > their GA/AL land confiscated by carpetbaggers and scalawags; this > included > the REESES in Navarro Co, but Wm. Lewis Reese was a doctor so would > always > have a way to survive. > > To sum up: Where would the English/Scotch-Irish Americans go in > early AL/MS > besides Natches? Was TX so much better off after the war that it > warrented > such mass movement? Any comments or additions, anyone? > > Tory Braden, > St. Simons, GA > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

    06/04/2001 01:17:25