Did you ever hear of the Free State of Jones? Some fellows here in Mississippi decided that if the state could secede from the Union, the county could retire from the state. So they declared Jones County, Ms The Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek from us Phyllis Grissom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > Hi, > there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, such > as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, and > Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some were > forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. Jesse > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the Rebel > Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the Carpetbaggers > passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had served in > the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church or > serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse did > not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they would > "Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in Jesse's > "Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing and > dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended from > that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors of > Jesse. > > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad Moxley > and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the > families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County. > Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all been > pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas > Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to > Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . > > The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front Guard- > in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home front > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and tried > to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an excuse to > kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians or > "German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info on the > Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German Immigrants > massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- the > monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were trying to > get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & Vietnam > War- religious or Political pacificists. > > Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My > Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach in > Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being from > The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who were > captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the Africans > were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything which > would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has enough > documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. > > Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. > > Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as Whites- > all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo > Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units until > 1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in one > of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of the 2 > Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who volunteered > as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who marched in > rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, so > they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job and a > chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. > > Take care, > Charles .a, ?wyly > > On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> writes: > > It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information we > > have been > > being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time for > > everyone > > to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come > > eventually, for > > those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, I > > scan each > > post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so > > entertaining, > > and enjoy the camaraderie. > > Enough 'junk' from me! > > My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm reasonably > > sure > > they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of > > Quaker > > families, from 1636- 1850. > > Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about the > > guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in > > Florida, and > > eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things, > > there was > > also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! > > God bless, Carolyn > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Was the burial an immediate result of the declaration??? Jim Blease Phyllis Grissom wrote: > > Did you ever hear of the Free State of Jones? Some fellows here in > Mississippi decided that if the state could secede from the Union, the > county could retire from the state. So they declared Jones County, Ms The > Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek > from us > Phyllis Grissom > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="leds.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jim Blease Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="leds.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 end:vcard --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF--
O my no they carried on all through the War Between the States. Old Knute lived to a ripe old age. Hollywood did a movie about it shortly after WWII. It was called "Tap Roots" A lot of folks around here are descendants of some of Knutes cohorts. The Grissoms all joined the Confederate Forces, however. Jones County calls itself the Free state of Jones to this day. I believe there were a few other counties in other States that did similar things. Phyllis Grissom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Blease" <leds@datasys.net> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Was the burial an immediate result of the declaration??? > > Jim Blease > > Phyllis Grissom wrote: > > > > Did you ever hear of the Free State of Jones? Some fellows here in > > Mississippi decided that if the state could secede from the Union, the > > county could retire from the state. So they declared Jones County, Ms The > > Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek > > from us > > Phyllis Grissom > > > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="leds.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Jim Blease > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="leds.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:; > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > end:vcard > > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF-- > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >