In a message dated 5/31/01 3:58:05 AM !!!First Boot!!!, wyly1@juno.com writes: << I did not know Alabama had such passports but I suppose all tribes who signed treaties as a Nation may have had them. . >> Two of my family lines were in Huntsville, Madison Co. in 1809. Alabama did not become a state until 1819. Would these folks have had to have passports? If so where could be find out? Betty.

Is there a web site dealing with north east Mississippi? My daughter is researching the Moss and Higginbotham families who settled in Myrtle, New Albany and Ripley areas. Thanx. Betty.

Hi, One suggestion: don't forget that the border between Amite County, Miss . and East Feliciana Parrish , Miss. was resurveyed. Some records show that Col. Ben Cleveland had Amite County, Miss, and he gave it to his daughter Jemima (Myers?) Cleveland Wyly Edwards for a home for her Wyly and Edwards children. The court records after her death reclaiming the estate to Col. Ben's estate to protect it for her children versus her 3 rd husband Daniel Cleveland- a distant cousin, These records are in Clinton, Louisiana , East |Feliciana Parrish with questions in one book, numberred and answers in a second book in English. Jemima's son Gen (Ga. Militia during 1812) James Rutherford Wyly, her nephew Gen. Ben Cleveland of War of 1812 and her brother, whom Col. Ben affectionately called "Devil John" Cleveland. They give detailed travel from Tennessee and/or Georgia through Cumberland Gap in 1796, where Evangelist Edwards was scalpped by Indians in the presence of his family and Wyly step children and other adults. Jemima returned to Col. Ben's area and he first gave her South Carolina land. They may have complete details of the travels to South Carolina then to Amite, Miss- Clinton, La. area with the group yopu are referring to.Other names are listed in the pages I have a copy of. I have only seen a few pages copied from 2 or 3 books of handwritten testimony, I knew Ga. Governor gave passports for anyone travelling or doing business with the Cherokee Nation and its civilized tribes. These records still exist in English. Not sure if they were in English, Cherokee, or some of both, after Sequoya's development of their alphabet, still required in Cherokee, N.C. High School, or was offered a few years ago. I did not know Alabama had such passports but I suppose all tribes who signed treaties as a Nation may have had them. . Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 30 May 2001 21:12:57 -0500 "John Campbell" <johnmar@shreve.net> writes: > Hi Southern Trails Listers- > Hope Ya'll can help me sort out the immigration of my > Campbell-Neal-Cockerham relatives from NC/SC/GA to Amite County MS. > These families all came to Amite County, in southeast MS, in the the > early 1800's (all before 1810, I think). Is it reasonable to assume > that they came via the 'Federal Road'? Does anyone know where I > might find a map of this road and some history of it? My ggggfather > Rev. John Campbell (a Methodist Minister) travelled to Amite Cty > from Ga. with two slaves, his wife (I don't know her name) and sons > William and Charles Wesley. I discovered this from a copy of his > passport to cross Indian Territory in AL. He arrived in Amite County > about 1809, and died there in 1826. I'm seeking to learn more about > him, his wife and his ancestors, as well as my Neal and Cockerham > ancestors who also came to Amite County during this same time frame. > If you have any knowledge that you think might assist me in my > search for my ancestors, I'd greatly appreciate it! > > Thanks, > John Campbell in LA > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Do you know this site? It deals with Mississippi as a territory....might help. http://www.rootsweb.com/~msswterr/

John Saw your post this evening about the Campbell name. My husband has Campbell's from SC and NC to TX in his line. Also I'm from Mississippi. I will be glad if you can give me some names, to look them up in my Amite Co. Cemetery book for you My husbands campbell line is; John Campbell & Elizabeth Workman Martha Campbell b. 1826 Sc d. 1896 Nc married Rev. Andrew M. Watson Their daughter; Margsret married Rev. John W. McLeod in NC and ended up in TX. Hope we can make some connection. Merry On Wed, 30 May 2001 21:12:57 -0500 "John Campbell" <johnmar@shreve.net> writes: > Hi Southern Trails Listers- > Hope Ya'll can help me sort out the immigration of my > Campbell-Neal-Cockerham relatives from NC/SC/GA to Amite County MS. > These families all came to Amite County, in southeast MS, in the the > early 1800's (all before 1810, I think). Is it reasonable to assume > that they came via the 'Federal Road'? Does anyone know where I > might find a map of this road and some history of it? My ggggfather > Rev. John Campbell (a Methodist Minister) travelled to Amite Cty > from Ga. with two slaves, his wife (I don't know her name) and sons > William and Charles Wesley. I discovered this from a copy of his > passport to cross Indian Territory in AL. He arrived in Amite County > about 1809, and died there in 1826. I'm seeking to learn more about > him, his wife and his ancestors, as well as my Neal and Cockerham > ancestors who also came to Amite County during this same time > frame. > If you have any knowledge that you think might assist me in my > search for my ancestors, I'd greatly appreciate it! > > Thanks, > John Campbell in LA > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Hi Southern Trails Listers- Hope Ya'll can help me sort out the immigration of my Campbell-Neal-Cockerham relatives from NC/SC/GA to Amite County MS. These families all came to Amite County, in southeast MS, in the the early 1800's (all before 1810, I think). Is it reasonable to assume that they came via the 'Federal Road'? Does anyone know where I might find a map of this road and some history of it? My ggggfather Rev. John Campbell (a Methodist Minister) travelled to Amite Cty from Ga. with two slaves, his wife (I don't know her name) and sons William and Charles Wesley. I discovered this from a copy of his passport to cross Indian Territory in AL. He arrived in Amite County about 1809, and died there in 1826. I'm seeking to learn more about him, his wife and his ancestors, as well as my Neal and Cockerham ancestors who also came to Amite County during this same time frame. If you have any knowledge that you think might assist me in my search for my ancestors, I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks, John Campbell in LA

Hi, I see at least 25 surnames on this Miller( Hempstead) County , Arkansas Territory, 1825. that were common names in Erath County, Texas. Do any of you see a missing link ?? Charles A. Wyly --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: CHASMID@aol.com To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:52:57 EDT Subject: [SouthernTrails] Another people moved X-Mailing-List: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/319 X-Loop: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:53:10 -0700 I have copied this from the Reeder query list. It relates to actions by our then Federal government in providing land for white settlements and acquiring and then ceding back land to Indian tribes. There was ineptitude in government then even as now. Some of you may recognize names of ancestors who were in this part of Territorial Arkansas at that time. Charles Middlebrooks Thought everyone would like to have a copy of the petition we have been discussing. You can thank Karol Gale for sharing this information. PETITION TO THE PRESIDENT BY CITIZENS OF MILLER COUNTY [NA:01A, Lets. Reed. (Ark.) DS] [No date, 1825] To the President of the United States, The Petition of the undersigned Inhabitants of that Part of Miller, in the Territory of Arkansas, ceded and confirmed to the Choctaw Nation of Indians, by Treaty made with them at Washington City, in the present Year (1825). Respectfully Sheweth. That the tract of Country upon which Your Petitioners reside, was acquired by the United States from the Quapaw Nation of Indians, by Treaty made with them about the Year 1818. -By which said Treaty, the said tract of Country became a part of the public Lands of the United States. And that the Legislature of the Territory of Missouri (within which the said tract of country was then situated) included the said tract of Country upon which Your Petitioners now reside, within the Civil Jurrisdiction of Hempstead County of that Territory, by an Act of the Legislature thereof (which has since been divided and Miller County erected out of the Western part of said County of Hempstead). That about the Year 1819, a part of the same public Lands upon which Your Petitioners now reside, were under the Authority of the United States surveyed into Townships, and subdivided into sections, as far as Ranges 38 or 39 West, and within about eight Miles of the present western boundary of Arkansas Territory, as established by Act of Congress, and lately surveyed and marked. That on the 5th January 1819 by Authority of an order from the Secretary of War, a few Settlers that were on Red River above Kia-Miche, and on the Arkansas above the Poto, were removed below, and East of those Rivers, to where no prohibition to settling then, or since, existed, and within a few Miles of which point (Kia-Miche on Red River) the public Lands were about that time, or soon afterwards, surveyed into sections, as if to facilitate Settlers in acquiring titles to the Lands they choose to settle, in the usual way provided for by law. That under these encouragements by the Authorities of the Government, there was an immediate and considerable Increase of the settlements at and below Kia Miche, on Red River, upon and near the lands surveyed into sections as aforesaid, most of which settlements were made with a view to being perminant, and improvements large and valuable. That Your Petitioners became greatly alarmed by a Treaty made with said Choctaw Nation of Indians at Dokes stand, about the year 1820, by which the country upon which Your Petitioners reide (together with other large extents of adjoining Territory) was then ceded to said Indians, -But were soon afterwards reconciled by assurances from the President of the United States, received by James Miller, Governor of Arkansas, that it was not the view or intention of the General Government, to remove any of the Settlers from the Lands then ceded to said Indians and that the then settled parts of said country so ceded to said Indians would be repurchased from them, which assurances have been by the Delegate in Congress from said Territory, frequently since that time renewed. And under which assurances, Your Petitioners became satisfied, and have continued enlarging their farms and improvements. Your Petitioners further respectfully represent, that from the time of their first settlement where they now reside, Civil Government, and Civil Jurrisdiction has been extended to them, and Courts of La-w Law established and held, within the tract of Country lately ceded and confirmed to said Choctaw Indians by the aforesaid Treaty of the present year (1825) and that under the authority of an Act of Congress (passed in 1824) granting rights of pre-emption for lands on which to establish permanent seats of Justice of New Counties, a quarter section of land had been selected by the proper commissioners of said County of Miller, and part of the public buildings contracted for. Under which assurances of protection and Civil Government a large number of Settlers have continued to improve enlarge their improvements, plant Orchards, and increase their Stocks &c, up to the present time, and that now to abandon their plantations, and remove their families and property, is to them ruinous and impossible. Your Petitioners are aware, that the General Government have heretofore remove from Indians lands, Citizens of the United States, who settled upon lands owned at the time of such settlements by Indians, Where the settlement at at the beginning were upon Indian lands, but Your present Petitioners respectfully deny having settled upon Indian lands: They settled upon the public -lands of the United States, where settlements were not prohibited by any order of the Government, where part of the public lands were surveyed into sections (a thing Never done for Indian purposes) and where, after the same country was first ceded to the Choctaws, the people have had assurances from the highest Authority, that the settled parts of said Country should be repurchased, and Your Petitioners afforded an opportunity of acquiring titles to their possessions, in the way that the Settlers upon the public lands have usually done, in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Alabama &c. Yet notwithstanding all the foregoing circumstances and assurances, Your Petitioners are now informed, that the lands they now occupy, are ceded and confirmed to said Choctaw Indians, and that Your Petitioners are shortly to be removed from their farms, without payment or recompence for their improvements, to give Place to Indians !! An Act that would have no example in any civilized Government, under the same circumstances which these settlements were made. An improved Country of Citizens where they have had the protection of Civil Laws and Civil Government for more than six successive Years, to be ceded by their Government to a Nation of Indians, has, it is believed, No examples. These settlements, not having been commenced upon the -lands of the Choctaw Indians, but upon the public Lands of the United States, then surveying for market, still claim the same protection of the same laws and Government, under the faith of which they commenced their settlements. To be forced and driven by our own Government from the farms and improvements we have laboured for years to make, for the support of our families, in order to give place to Indians, would under all the circumstances and assurances before mentioned, appear so unjust and unprecedented, and to the Settlers so ruinous, that its enforcement would produce the greatest possible excitement. Your Petitioners therefore respectfully ask of Your Excellencey to suspend the survey of the eastern boundary of Territory, lately ceded to said Choctaw Indians, and to suspend the time of giving said Indians possession of said Territory, and cause to be re-purchased from them, the parts of said Territory settled and improved by Citizens of the United States, as aforesaid East of the Kia-Miche on red River, and of the Poto on Arkansas, where settlements by Citizens has never been prohibited, but approbated and encouraged as before mentioned. As Your Petitioners in duty bound will ever pray Petitioner Names Aaron Coe; Bailey English; Jesse Cheek; Joseph English; Micajah Reder; Solomon Moffitt; John Swagerty; Allon Rains; Thomas Gatathite; Thomas Wafer jun; Thomas Wafer Snr; Mabry Wafer; Josiah Trent; John Trent; Rucker Tanner; Joseph Porter; John J Mors; Lewis Potter; Zacariah Thompson; Wesley Tollett; Elijah Tollett; James Watt; Walter Hogon; Henry Tollett; Henry K Brown; Asa Hartfield; James R, Brown; Travis G Wright; John Hinds-10; John Adams; D Clark; Johnston Bowers; Jonathan Poole; Franklin Greenwood; John Greenwood; Joel Greenwood; Henry B Greenwood; Philip Henson; Nathaniel More-10; William Hensley; Thomas More; John Tucker; Thomas J Garner; Nicholas Porter; Samuel Strickland; John Green; Butler Roberts; Otho, B Cocke; Paul Scarbrough-10; John Farly; Adam Hampton; Thomas Owen; W- Slingland; Wilobe Sparks; Will Woods; Joshua Ewing; Jessey Keliher; George Wilson; Maurice Pendergast; Arther Leebe; Lewis Boatright; Alexander Linch; Mathew Sparks; Thos Boatright; William Modglan; David Gutman; PhiIip Tramell; Allon Miller; Thomas Linch; Thomas P French; Joseph French; Levy C. French; Amos Strickland; Wm Brice Jr; James Amburn; Thomas Cheser; David Fraser; Taylor Polk; Thomas Tramel; James Polk; Ruland Polk; William Bradford; James S. Hanks; Richard Stiles; John Emmerson; Allen Carter; John Will; Elijah Carter; Ad. Chr. Hartung; Joseph Reed; John Stiles; James Harrell; Joel Harrell; Isaac Harrell; Timothy Harrell; Joshua Harrell; Hodg P Raburn; Jacob Nidever; George Nidever; Mark Nidever; Mitchel Crownover; Joseph Adkison; David Frame; Joseph Jenkins; William Stiles; Jesse Perkins; Partrick T Carnall; William Forsyth; Absolom Sparks Jnr; Isaac N Charles; William Brice Junior; Peter Miller; John Morton; Samuel Brice; James Brice; Jas Clark; T. B. Ballard; John Mcvay; John Kerley; John Wood; Noah Reeder; Samuel Guthry; Thomas Guthry; William Guthry; Gorge Lawrence; Jams Lawrence; Walter Poole; David G Strickland; Ezra McElvey; Maurice Pendergast; Hugh McElvey; David lawrence; Wyat Hanks; Jas Strickland; Amos Strickland; Jas McElvey; John Hudson; Adam Lawrence Jun; John Chumney; Ambrose Hilburn; Joseph Clark; John Deck; Joseph Deck; John Roberts; Luke Robberts; John Wolsey; Wreding Robberts; ElsBerry Sparks; John Woolsey; Jonathan Franklin; James Smith Sen; A: Hanscom; Elijah Reid; Charles Curtiss; Abram Tidell; G.G McKinny; Thos Potter; J.C. Ragsdall; James Smith Junior; Samul. S. Fench; M Rulong; Absolam Sparks; I. G. Pennington; Nathl Dixon; Wm Porter; B L Kavanaugh; William Long; Isaack Murphy; George Carlton; John H. Fowler; Benjamin Crownover; G.C. Wetmore; Jas Furguson; Jacob Black; George F. Lawton; John Ring; John Edmondson; Joshua Calloway; William Montgomery; B. Gooch; Andrew Montgomery; W.P. Ferguson; L.M. Rice; David Clap; Jacob Shurley; Nathaniel Mare Junior; Evritt Edwars; Stephen Wiley Jun.; Thomas Wiley; Holawar Noll; Clark, Robinson; Y E Bradsaw; John Newman; Daniel Conner; Thos Coil; Ralph Shelton; Bengeman Geames; Asa Blankinship; Roabit Slaven; Joseph James; Stephen Wingate; Thomas Swagerty; Isaac Landers; Abrm Landers; John Lackey; Mark Lewis; Jane Brown; Margaret Tollett; Pharoah Kitchen; Preston Kitchen; Clayborn Wright; William Pagan; A Carnall; Silas C Blair; Hiram Tidwell; J H Carnall; Partrick Carnall; E G Blair; James Brown; Leonard M Simpson; William King; J. G. W. Pierson; John Noll; Thos Barrow; William Harse; Larken Noll; Elizabeth Denton; Samuel French; John Ball; Levi C. French-10; Samuel Moren; Abram Ogdon; Cornelius Martin; John Robins; Alexr O. Wetmore; Nathaniel Robbins; John Dunlop; Lewis, B. Dayton; William Humphry; William Woods-10; James J. Ward Sr; James J. Ward, Jun; Joshua Robbins; Hugh B. Shaw; Alfred Sain; James Burkhm.; J E Hopkins; Ed Hopkins; Benjamin Polk; Richd Harvey; Danl Wilson; John Oniell; Hiram Tidwell; David Tramell; Dennis Tramell; Mongomer Roberson; William Brice Snr; John Bowman; Henry Nidever; James Lawrence; Jesse Robinson; James Gillelad; James Rains; Daniel Wilson; Adam Laurance; Jesse Shelton; James Anderson; William Shelton; G. N. Martin; Matthew Martin; Jessey Moren; Jason Page; Eligah Cutbuth; Martin G. Noll; Thomas Paterson; William Noll; Samuel Clark; James Hall; Silus Rogers; John McMurry; Joseph Green; William Collins; John Spurlock; James Taylor; Samuel Wyley; Cornelius Wiley; Isaack Tyler; Willis McConn; Charles Moore; Samuel Burnam; John Dollarhide; William Bartlet; George Halbrook; David Umphry; Andrew Dollarhide; A. H. Ash; Young Bradshaw; Sherod Bradshaw; Absalam Bauren; Francis Hopkins; Henry Wyatt Seign; Henry Watt Junior; N. Thomes; George T Boren Endorset~ Petition of sundry inhabitants of Miller County in Arkansas Territory, praying that measures may be adopted to relieve them of the difficulties under which they are placed by the late treaties with the Choctaws, giving them lands in Arkansas." >> ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hello Southern Trails Subscribers The message below was posted to another list that I belong to and I obtained permission to pass it on to you all.....thought you'd be interested in the route. Mary T -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Moore <moorelawfirm@webtv.net> To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: [LCT] Re: Moores Genealogy Hi all, I have had several request for this daily log of the trip from Fairfield South Carolina to Texas by the Charles Moores the older brother of my Major John Brown Moores. These are two of the son's of lt Henry Moores who was married in Rowan Co. North Carolina to Jean Brown Ross in 1775, and died in LCT in 1814. THIS RECORD IS TYPED JUST AS I RECEIVED IT WITH NO CORRECTIONS >From Mrs. Montague's Records: Charles Moores who married Mary Harrison, settled in Bowie County, Texas in 1837 was born in S.C. Mary Harrison, daughter of Ruben Harrison was born in VA., and who came to Richland district with relatives, the Kirklands, and others of Virginia. They are related to the Willou hby, Battaile and other prominent V. Southside families. Ruben Harrison served in the Revolutionary War, as is shown by the record in the War Department, Washington. In 1837, Charles Moores, accompanied by five of his sons, came to what is now Bowie County,, Texas (at the time Red River County),, and began to "set up" a home place, near Redwater. It _ook more than two years for them with the help of slaves to clear land, start fields to cultivation, build a home and slave quarters. In the winter of 1839 they returned to S.C. and in February of 1840, the journey to Texas began. The following is a true and exact copy of the log of the journey kept by Anderson Rochelle Moores. The original is in the possession of Mrs Wiley Linn Murie, Clarksville, Arkansas. February the 27, we left our South Carolina home behind and started to Texas. The first day we came 7 miles 28th we came to Winsborro 10 miles 29th we crossed little River 10 miles March 1st, 1840 1st we crossed Broad River 18 miles 2, we passed Union Court house 20 miles 3, we crossed Martinburg C.N. 20 miles 4, we crossed packlett River 25 miles 5, we crossed the blue ridge 18 miles 6, we passed Ashville N.C. 24 miles 7, we camped on the French Broad River 30 miles 8, we passed warm springs 17 miles 9, we passed newport 17 miles --------------- 226 miles End of 1st page Page 2 of log of journey from S.C. to Texas 10, We passed Dandridge, Tenn 21 miles 11, we came 18 miles 12, we passed Knoxville, Tennessee 18 miles 13, we passed Campbell station 34 miles 14, we passed Kingston 16 miles 15, we came to Cumberland Gap 19 miles 16, we came 21 miles 17, we passed Sparta, Tenn. 18 miles 18, we crossed the Caney Fork 20 miles 19, we passed ________ville 17 miles 20, 21,22,23,24,25,26 we stayed a Uncle N's 27, we left Uncles N's 8 miles ------------- End of second page 220 miles 28, we passed Shelbyville, Tenn 20 miles 29, we came 15 miles 30, we passed Columbia, Tenn. 9 miles 31, we passed Mt Pleseant 24 miles April 1840 1, we passed Murfreesboro 28 miles 2, we came 19 miles 3, we came 17 miles 4, we passed Dardin 27 miles 5, we passed Collierville 25 miles 6, we passed Somerville, 22 miles 7, we came 12 miles 8 we passed Raliegh 16 miles ------------------- 220 miles end of third page ______________ Copy-Page-2 - Log of Charles' Moores' journed from S.C. to Texs 9, we lay over at Memphis 0 miles 10, we ferried the Mississippi River 14 miles 11, we came 5 miles 12, we crossed Black Fish Lake 4 miles 13, we came 3 miles 14, we came 2 miles 15, we came 5 miles 16, we came 6 miles 17, we camped 18, we crossed St. Francis River 14 miles 19, we came 20, we we lay by 22, we crossed L'Angulle River 14 miles 23, we came 5 miles ------------------------------ end of fourth page 67 miles 24, we came 13 miles 25, we came 12 miles 26, we came 8 miles 27, we are camped on White River 28, we crossed White River 8 miles 29, we came 10 miles 30, we came 8 miles _________________ Total 72 miles May 1840 1, we came 14 miles 2, we came 6 miles 3,4,5, we lay by 6, we crossed Bayou Meta 11 miles 7, we lay by on ArkansasRiver 8, we come to the ferry 1 mile ------------------------- 32 miles end of fifth page May 9, we crossed the Arkansas River and left Little Rock 2 miles 10, we passed Benton 24 miles 11, we lay by 12, we crossed Saline River 18 miles 13, we crossed Wachita River 15 miles 14, we crossed Caddo Creek 18 miles 15, we crossed Antoine Creek 18 miles 16, we crossed Little Missouri River 10 miles 17, we passed town of Washington 18 miles 19 and 20 we are water bound by Red River 21, we crossed Red River 5 miles 22, we left lost Praire 6 miles ------------------------ 152 miles end of sixth page 23, we came to our place 14 miles 24, we arrived home 10 miles --------------------- 24 miles 226 220 234 67 104 152 24 ---------- 1027 miles "UNCLE " N's" IN TENNESSEE When the trips to and from South Carolina and Texas were made, there were certain stops that were made on each trip for visits, for renewals of old acquaintances, and laying in of provisions. One such was a Fayetteville, Tenn. at NORVELL"S. One of the daughters of Henry Moores married a Norvell and they lived in Tenn. Thomas Briggs Moores, one of the sons of Charles Moores and Mary Moores married his cousin on the last trip. The wedding was a festive occasion and the bride accompanied the Texas-bound immigrants. (Westward the Tide of Empire Goes to Texas) Montague's file (Bell Buckle, Tenn.) This log entered by Ken Moore Fresno, California Ken Moore's note: The note (Bell Buckle, Tenn.) was just there at the bottom of the log. I found that Uncle Norvelle lived in Bell Buckle, Bedford County Tennessee. John B. Moores lived in Fayetteville. His daughter Mary Moores who married Thomas Hines also moved to Texas from LCT as did severl other members of the family. Ken

What a neat Memorial Day story. Thank you for sharing with the list. Liv

My son-in-law would like to know where the Old Huntsville Road was in 1865 and where compared to today. During the War Between the States Wilson left Lauderdale County and went to Elyton (which is now Birmingham, AL) and then went on to Tennehill to destroy the south's iron works and part of the group went to Selma. While wilson was in Elyton he stayed at Arlington Plantation. There was a Confederate spy hidden in the attic while he was there. Arlington was spared and is open today for tours. SIL would also like to know what happend to the town of Trion - which was somewhere on their route. Tannehill had a re-enactment yesterday. apprediate any info. Betty

Hi, >From Waco Tribune Herald - May 28, 2001- Island of Ishigaki , south of Okinawa is claimed by natives to be haunted by the ghosts of Three American Airmen and one official has been behind the movement to build them a memorial so their ghosts will feel at rest and be ready to journey on to a happier place. This is Japanese territory today. .U.S. Navy airmen- 1. Robert Tuggle Junior, of Brownwood , Texas with close kin in Hillsboro, Texas. His mother was so upset that the family would not mention his name again 2. Lt. Vernon Tebo- wife lives in Florida 3. Loyd enlisted in Kansas but friends said he was from Long Island, N.Y. Two were beheaded by Imperial Japanese soldiers. The third was bayonet practice. When War Crimes trials started the War vet officers dug them up. cremated them and dumped ashes far out at sea. Natives have revealed the story to a Japanese professor who started the move for a monument and transportation to the groundbreaking ceremonies today. There will be 3 steps , one for each soldier, three solar lights, and three spires under a Japanese Archway. My Great Grandmother Ella Hatchett Wyly of Selden, Texas was the granddaughter of Liza or Elizabeth Tuggle of Georgia but came to Texas and is buried in the Selden Hatchett Cemetery. I have a copy of a large book of the historyof the Tarrant, Tuggle, and Herndon Families of Bradford England who were a united family which made military uniforms for worldwide trade for 400 years before coming to Jamestown, Va. . One had donated the Christ Church in Bradford, England to the pariisioners, Some records show the Belgian name before that was Tugglestine Liza Tuggle is buried near her son Dr. & Rev.W.P.Hatchett and Valley Mills and Gonzales , Texas and church organizer from Waco to Erath County, Texas. He had other Georgia Brothers , 3 were frontier ministers in Texas, as well as Stevens in laws who were frontier Preacher ordained in Georgia and buried in Selden and other Cemeteries. , The above are buried in Selden Hatchett cemetery.I understand some Tuggle and Tennessee Hatchett graves are in Chalk Mountain, Erath County, Texas. At least 7 Hatchetts married Wylys, so, descendants of the Tuggle Family are now found in Mongolia, New Guinea, Australia and other countries. , some as Missionaries. Why have we let some disidents hold us back so much that the Japanese people build a monument to 3 of their enemy before our own Congress builds a memorial to our WW2 Vets? Pres. Bush now has set aside a place for it and will push for its completion. Also, If anyone knows of a National or State memorial solely for Korean Vets? Even Waco has built a Generic monument , listing wars but left Korean War out. "Nuf Sed" Charles A. Wyly, Stateside Korean War Vet.

For those of you who have not seen this diary. Very interesting account of a man's travels from Tennessee to Texas. http://www.rootsweb.com/~arhempst/diaryofc.txt Jim

That type of book sure sounds like a winner! Fawn

Would recommend the book "Letters from Alabama." The letters were written between 1817 and 1822 by Anne Royall. The book is edited and annotated by Lucille Griffith. Anne Royall was America's first woman journalist. She travelled the area from KY through TN and on into AL. She describes the travells and writes the letters to a friend. Very interesting. Betty.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tory Braden" <historybuff123@hotmail.com> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 24 May, 2001 9:18 AM Subject: [SouthernTrails] Lord Dunmore's War > Mary, > > Do you have any more info on Lord Dunmore's War and/or the Battle of Point > Pleasant and who fought in it? Do you know where those records would be? The Library of Virginia digital collection has a section on line concerning Lord Dunmore's War. It has rosters and pay lists with an index . See. http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/collections/DW.html The index is combursome to use. Select a name from the list on the screen that is alphabetically just above the name you are looking for, click on it, then page through the index cards one at time until getting to the name you are looking at. The Library of Virginia Digital Library Program has much more concerning Virginia on line. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/index.htm Warren Lawrence

Hi. She doesn't mention the "Pig Trail", but she does go into a little detail of the Indian trails and how they bent saplings to point to "live" water, i.e., springfed, and where some of these trees are today {1993}. There is a map that shows old Indian trails and their relative location to a few of the main motor routes today. I hadn't realized how many different tribes crossed Missouri from the north, west and south. Several head to St. Louis, but her map ends at the Mississippi, which makes it look like all the trails end there, too, all up and down the Mississippi, so, if they crossed the big river at almost any point, they were in Illinois. Sara Hi, sarah, sounds like the Wire road may have actually followed the old Indian "Pig Trail" , used to drive pigs from the Red River and Broken Bow to Mena to Fort Smith and on to Great Lakes Indian Traders. I suspect that John or Jesse Chisum of Broken Bow drove his Oklahoma cattle alone this route to Illinois, but did he drive to an Illinois Rail head or to a slaughterhouse which supplied the North Illinois market. He farmed in season and slowly turned to Trail driving for a time. This bears more research, but it may be after our reunion May 30 th. I had several Ancestors in Arkansas and Missouri. in Arkansas- james T. Stone of Flat Creek, Bedford, Tenn married Sarah Bateman in or near Batesville, arkansas and is buried in Bateman Cemetery. Others of his line are Carey, Copeland, Hipp,Ramage, Winn, and related families. From Missouri were Kings, Moxley, Fleming, Ogan, Crockett and kin. Gov. King was a Sevier cousin of Great Grandad. Crocketts were not kin to my knowledge, but they settled all over Erath County , 1866 to 1890' Take care, charles A. Wyly On Tue, 22 May 2001 16:58:24 -0500 "Sara D" <sara.d@townsqr.com> writes: > Hi, Armenta. I have a copy of "Down the Wire Road, In the Missouri > Ozarks" > by Fern Angus. > > Here is a paragraph from the book, "The Telegraph Road which passed > through > the Missouri Ozarks was a military project, and was designed to > improve > communications during the Civil War. The road began at Jefferson > Barracks, > St. Louis, Missouri and continued to Ft. Smith, Arkansas Territory." > I note > that present day Lincoln county is north of St. Louis and a little > west of > the Mississippi. > > In her research, Ms Angus found a letter from a Mr. Ruggles in the > Western > Union Telegraph Company's library. Western Union bought the lines > from The > Missouri & Western Telegraph Company who had the Missouri franchise, > 1859, > to build and operate lines [note the plural] west of the Mississippi > River > and who had strung lines to Springfield, Missouri. This Mr. Ruggles > talked > of the line work, which he had joined at Syracuse, crossed the Osage > River > at Warsaw, on to Jefferson City, to Springfield. Another gang went > from > there to work on the line to Ft. Smith. It is possible the military > wire > road just followed the Western Union Road. Because this is the > area of my > research, I haven't checked any other books that may cover other > lines. > > As an aside, she noted that after the Civil War, "Wounds, both real > and > imagined, were kept alive along the Missouri-Arkansas border longer > than at > any other place in the nation. It is estimated that 1,000 military > actions > took place in the area which became known as 'No-man's land'." > Your relatives passed through this area, possibly, at a still > hostile time. > > She also talks and traces Indian trails, the Trail of Tears and the > Butterfield Stage Route in that part of the country. There are a > few maps. > > I will do lookups. Please be sure to put WIRE ROAD in the subject > line or > your message could be deleted unread, 'cause I sometimes get in a > hurry. > > If you would like your own copy, you can get it direct from Fern > Angus, P.O. > Box 305, Marionville, MO. 65705. My copy is from the second > printing, > August, 1993, and I forget what it cost, but seems it was $10 or > $15. Hope > this is of some use to you. Sara > > > You wrote: <snipped> > > Could some one tell us a little about the WIRE ROAD that runs > through > Missouri. Where it began and where it ends? > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & > Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Mary, Do you have any more info on Lord Dunmore's War and/or the Battle of Point Pleasant and who fought in it? Do you know where those records would be? I think my Dent line did this. Supposedly the immigrant mother got an ax in her head in the Shenandoah, and the whole family became indian fighters all. Went into TN, IN then fought the Black Hawk War, Mexican War and then to the CA Gold Rush. [three generations here]. You said: >They were ready to go out at short notice to chase Indians who were a . >threat. I think the same could be said of all those early frontier >men - >the ones in Kentucky were also at Battle of New Orleans, as were >some from >North Carolina. >So if you have an early ancestor in the southern 'frontier' area, check >military records and you will probably find him. The battle of Point >Pleasant in Lord Dunmore's War was a group out of Shenandoah Valley of >VA >- but they had already moved onto the Holston river area of TN. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Like to introduce myself as I am new to your list. Researching the migration paths of the Coble and Bryant lines that came down from Penn. , Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, and split some going into Tennessee and the other's on into Oklahoma and Texas. ALL INPUTS ARE GOOD INPUTS as far as I am concerned. <grin> Looking forward to reading (and perhaps discussing) these routes. Later, David

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