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    1. [SouthernTrails] Re: Southern-Trails-D Digest V01 #84
    2. In a message dated 06/12/01 10:04:48 AM Central Daylight Time, Southern-Trails-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Sam Houston went home to Huntsville, TX and died as an outcast because he was against leaving the union. >> Excuse me! Just a little point of correction... Sam Houston was NEVER an OUTCAST.. he was very disappointed that Texans decided to leave the Union and join the Confederacy since WE TEXANS had fought so hard and died ... some slaughtered ... for our Independence from Spanish Rule... Sam Houston was always a respected man by the People of Texas and we have many monuments, buildings and streets and children and schools, etc., to show our respect and love for this man! Linda in Texas

    06/12/2001 05:19:11
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Rachael/Lisa
    3. Thank you for the info. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2001 8:26 Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > A carpetbagger is a person from the north that came to the south after the > War of Southern iIndependence and bought up the holdings and property from > the bankrupt southern owners. Many southern land and property owners were > driven into bankrupcy by the occupying Federal tax authorties after the war > seeking repriations for the cost of the war. The carpetbaggers were > speculators that came to the south only carrying a carpet covered bag or > suitcase. That is why Texas has such liberal bankruptcy laws today. > > Jerry Coffee > > > > --Original Message----- > From: Rachael/Lisa <rachael@iswt.com> > To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > > > >Hello: > >I have heard that expression alot. Just what is a carpetbagger? > >I want to know. I live in Tn. and have heard that word in derogatory alot. > >But noone ever said just what it meant exactly. > >Lisa > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "skm" <flintlock@kcnet.com> > >To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 9:49 > >Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > > > > > >> When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly rebuild it, all > >they had > >> to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a southern > >sympathizer > >> and the farm and possessions were taken. > >> This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I agree, > >> the distrust of southern > >> people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. > >> > >> Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> > While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much of > >Tennessee > >> > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal > >> > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal great-grandfather > >fought > >> > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, > brothers, > >who > >> > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union and two > >for > >> > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence > County > >> > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such stories > >from > >> > that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run strong in > >this > >> > regard. > >> > > >> > Linda (Alabama) > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > >> learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > >> http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >> > >> > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

    06/12/2001 05:14:51
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Coffee
    3. Orangeville was a much larger community at one time. It had a co-educational college until the '20s and had many businesses. It died on the vine when Whitewright and Trenton became the railroad stops since no railroad came through Orangeville. Orangeville was there before any of the surrounding towns were founded. Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: Judy Craig <jcraig5@bellsouth.net> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama >What was going on in Orangeville about 1903 or 1904 that would have >drawn folks down from Ohio? My father in law( LM Craig) was born there >in 1904 after his dad came from Ohio? They never talked about this and >of course all are dead now. It seemed to be a stopping point for them >as they later moved down to Anderson Texas. I have always wondered why >he would come to that area. > >Thanks > >Judy > > > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

    06/12/2001 03:52:21
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Judy Craig
    3. What was going on in Orangeville about 1903 or 1904 that would have drawn folks down from Ohio? My father in law( LM Craig) was born there in 1904 after his dad came from Ohio? They never talked about this and of course all are dead now. It seemed to be a stopping point for them as they later moved down to Anderson Texas. I have always wondered why he would come to that area. Thanks Judy

    06/12/2001 02:38:03
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Coffee
    3. A carpetbagger is a person from the north that came to the south after the War of Southern iIndependence and bought up the holdings and property from the bankrupt southern owners. Many southern land and property owners were driven into bankrupcy by the occupying Federal tax authorties after the war seeking repriations for the cost of the war. The carpetbaggers were speculators that came to the south only carrying a carpet covered bag or suitcase. That is why Texas has such liberal bankruptcy laws today. Jerry Coffee --Original Message----- From: Rachael/Lisa <rachael@iswt.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama >Hello: >I have heard that expression alot. Just what is a carpetbagger? >I want to know. I live in Tn. and have heard that word in derogatory alot. >But noone ever said just what it meant exactly. >Lisa >----- Original Message ----- >From: "skm" <flintlock@kcnet.com> >To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 9:49 >Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > > >> When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly rebuild it, all >they had >> to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a southern >sympathizer >> and the farm and possessions were taken. >> This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I agree, >> the distrust of southern >> people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. >> >> Geannie42@aol.com wrote: >> >> > While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much of >Tennessee >> > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal >> > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal great-grandfather >fought >> > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, brothers, >who >> > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union and two >for >> > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County >> > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such stories >from >> > that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run strong in >this >> > regard. >> > >> > Linda (Alabama) >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >> > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >> learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >> http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >> >> > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

    06/12/2001 02:26:38
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Coffee
    3. My great-grandfather Joshua David "Doss" Coffee first settled in Fannin County in 1855 and joined the 14th Brigade of the Orangeville Independent Home Guard during the Civil War. They were known as "heel flies" by local people and were similar to a Confederate "Gestapo". They had the authority from the Confederate Government of unlimited search and seizure. General Henry Eustace McCullough was the commanding officer of the Home Guard units in the North Texas District with headquarters in Bonham, Texas. The men of the former Home Guard units were considered Confederate guerillas by the occupying Federal Authorities after the war and many were sought out to face federal charges. My great-grandfather fled the strife in the Five Corners area with his young family in 1877 and settled on a hard scrabble piece of land on the Texas frontier in Coleman County after the Indian problem was concluded. It was the responsibility of the Home Guard units to round up diserters and draft dodgers and imprison them. Ft.Towson in Oklahoma was a abandoned U.S. Army garrison that was used by the Confederate government to imprison diserters and union sympathizers. Sometimes the diserters were hung on the spot when captured. The diserters and draft dodgers were known a "brush soldiers" since they hid out in the wooded areas of north Texas. The Black Cat Thicket in the Five Corners are of North Texas was a brush soldier hide out. It is located in the junction of Hunt, Collin, Grayson and Fannin County. It is cleared and cultivated farmland today. The communities of Orangeville and Desert are located in the old Black Cat Thicket area. The movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales" starring Clint Eastwood, is a romanticized movie about the strife in the Missouri and Texas areas. It is from the book by Forrest Carter's called "Gone to Texas" . People that migrated to Texas after the Civil War carved "GTT" on their door, meaning "gone to Texas". . Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: Geannie42@aol.com <Geannie42@aol.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama >While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much of Tennessee >was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal >great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal great-grandfather fought >for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, brothers, who >were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union and two for >the Confederacy. All of these lived in the Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County >areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such stories from >that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run strong in this >regard. > >Linda (Alabama) > > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

    06/12/2001 01:40:46
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Texans for the Union
    2. Coffee
    3. There were some counties in Texas that did not wish to join the Confederacy. Two counties in central Texas that had large German population did not wish to join. Angelina County in east Texas did not want to join. Collin, Hunt, Grayson and Fannin County in north Texas were four that voted not to join the Confederacy. There was a bitter feud in the "Five Corners" area after the Civil War between the Union League headed by Lewis Peacock and the ex-Confederates led by Captain Bob Lee. It went on until 1867 when Lee was ambushed and murdered by some of Peacock's men. Many feuds in Texas were left overs between the ex-Confederates and Union sympathizers. The post civil war administration of Gov. E.J. Davis and the Federal government nearly brought Texans to their knees. That is the reason that Texas has such liberal bankruptcy laws today. A excellent book by Gladys Bright Ray called Murder in the Corners is about the Lee-Peacock Feud. It was published in 1957 and is out of print but can be obtained on the inter-library loan system. The Lewisville, Texas public Library has a copy. Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: PatsyPLQ@aol.com <PatsyPLQ@aol.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: [SouthernTrails] Texans for the Union >In a message dated 6/11/01 6:37:21 PM Central Daylight Time, >flintlock@kcnet.com writes: > > >> Also, wasn't there some problem in Texas at the beginning of the war with >> some who did not want to leave the Union? > > >Sam Houston went home to Huntsville, TX and died as an outcast because he was >against leaving the union. > > > > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

    06/12/2001 01:12:42
    1. [SouthernTrails] Texans for the Union
    2. In a message dated 6/11/01 6:37:21 PM Central Daylight Time, flintlock@kcnet.com writes: > Also, wasn't there some problem in Texas at the beginning of the war with > some who did not want to leave the Union? Sam Houston went home to Huntsville, TX and died as an outcast because he was against leaving the union.

    06/11/2001 05:14:33
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Hi, they were Northern agents sent to reconstruct the South. They had a type of luggage that looked like carpet. A few were honest, but many were very political and plotted to keep the opposing party from voting. In Hill County, Texas , a carpetbagger manipulated the elections by declaring all Confederates as traitors and unable to vote. One officer of Hood's Texas Brigade was an object of a posse of several,Black deputies who were sent out to arrest the man, He faced them down singlehandedly, promising to shoot the first Deputy who drew a gun. They were also victims of Confiscatory adjusted taxes. A major cause of the James Brothers, Daltons and Youngers converting from Army Gorillas and foragers to outlaw was due to armed Carpetbaggers trying to confiscate Confederate family property. Many Carpetbaggers from "Bleeding Kansas" were sent into Missouri with promise of political power and favoritism at the ex On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:01:20 -0500 "Rachael/Lisa" <rachael@iswt.com> writes: > Hello: > I have heard that expression alot. Just what is a carpetbagger? > I want to know. I live in Tn. and have heard that word in derogatory > alot. > But noone ever said just what it meant exactly. > Lisa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skm" <flintlock@kcnet.com> > To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 9:49 > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > > > > When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly rebuild it, > all > they had > > to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a southern > sympathizer > > and the farm and possessions were taken. > > This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I agree, > > the distrust of southern > > people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. > > > > Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > > > > > While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much > of > Tennessee > > > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal > > > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal > great-grandfather > fought > > > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, > brothers, > who > > > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union > and two > for > > > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the > Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County > > > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such > stories > from > > > that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run > strong in > this > > > regard. > > > > > > Linda (Alabama) > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

    06/11/2001 04:15:09
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. skm
    3. When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly rebuild it, all they had to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a southern sympathizer and the farm and possessions were taken. This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I agree, the distrust of southern people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much of Tennessee > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal great-grandfather fought > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, brothers, who > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union and two for > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such stories from > that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run strong in this > regard. > > Linda (Alabama) > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

    06/11/2001 03:49:56
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much of Tennessee was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal great-grandfather fought for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, brothers, who were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union and two for the Confederacy. All of these lived in the Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such stories from that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run strong in this regard. Linda (Alabama)

    06/11/2001 02:53:26
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. skm
    3. By the way-didn't the northern army swoop down on the people in Ar. and it was either fight for them or die where you stood? Why are northern people still called damn yankees in central Ar. Two 1/2 bro. one fought for the north-one fought for the south were killed on the same day by the same people and hurriedly buried in the same grave. Harold Miller wrote: > I can tell you about one group who left TN for AL 1815-1818. They were all > with Jackson during the War of 1812 which ended early 1815. They were back > in TN say May or June of 1815....and some of them by that fall were in Alabama. > > Capt. John Looney and wife Rebekoh Turney arrived St. Claire Co AL > 1815....their home is now a museum. Rebekoh's family was from the > Smith/Dekalb/Cannon Co area near Liberty TN. But John and Rebekoh had been > all over TN, one child was born near Cumberland Gap I know. > > Rebekoh Looney's brothers - Joseph Turney who married a Mote in TN, and > Daniel Watson Turney were in AL at least by 1818. Daniel Watson Turney > along with Alfred Gandy were first settlers of Gandy's Cove in Morgan Co AL. > They were founders of the first church there in 1818. > > I think maybe some of the Gilliams might also have made the move to AL. > (two Gilliam women married Turney men in TN, but both moved to AR in 1830s). > another of the Gilliam sisters was Temperence who married Phillip > Klepper/Clepper and that group went to Boone Co AR in 1830s with some of the > Turneys. One Gilliam sister went to Alabama - Frances Gilliam married 1801 > Rutherford Co tN to John Deloach. John Deloach died 1820 where Birmingham > is now - was it Elyton then? Anyway, they connect to the Patterson family > who hopped back and forth between Alabama and Tennessee. > > Why the move to Texas after the war in 1865.......I don't think Texas was > destroyed like some of the other parts of the south. Well, guess all the > south was messed up, but also remember that there were pockets of Union > people - in eastern TN, NW Arknasas, parts of MO, KY, North Carolina, even > Alabama.....part of Virginia became a new state - West Virginia....they were > southerners who stayed with the Union. After the war, it was very difficult > for them so most of them moved on but wanted to stay in the south. Texas, > NW AR were areas where they could start again. You have to think about the > hatred during the war between the two sides, and there were families just > torn apart with some on one side, and some on the other. As far as money, > they probably did not have much, they took what they had and moved in > groups....often either family members or men who had been in the same units > during the war. For some reason I guess Texas was a place where they felt > safe and could begin again. > > By the way, someone once told me that TN sent more men to the Union army > than many of the northern states sent. Also, wasn't there some problem in > Texas at the beginning of the war with some who did not want to leave the Union? > > Mary > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

    06/11/2001 12:42:07
    1. [SouthernTrails] FW: charleston
    2. Kay Paletz
    3. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay Paletz > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:30 PM > To: 'SouthernTrails-L@rootsweb.com' > Subject: charleston > > I think my greatgrandmother came to Charleston between 1885 and 1887 but > there appears to be no passenger lists for this time or this place. What > do I do?

    06/11/2001 10:38:22
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama
    2. Rachael/Lisa
    3. Hello: I have heard that expression alot. Just what is a carpetbagger? I want to know. I live in Tn. and have heard that word in derogatory alot. But noone ever said just what it meant exactly. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "skm" <flintlock@kcnet.com> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 11 June 2001 9:49 Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Alabama > When the carpetbaggers came to the south to supposedly rebuild it, all they had > to do was claim a person who still owned a farm was a southern sympathizer > and the farm and possessions were taken. > This was a great time of unrest and distrust. Yes, I agree, > the distrust of southern > people toward northern people is still deeply embedded. > > Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > > > While on the subject of divided families in the Great War, much of Tennessee > > was torn in their loyalties. In my own family, one paternal > > great-grandfather fought for the Union, one maternal great-grandfather fought > > for the Confederacy. But, to top that, I had four g-g-uncles, brothers, who > > were divided within the family, with two fighting for the Union and two for > > the Confederacy. All of these lived in the Wayne/Hardin/Lawrence County > > areas of southern middle Tennessee. There are many, many such stories from > > that area and that era. And believe me, feelings still run strong in this > > regard. > > > > Linda (Alabama) > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

    06/11/2001 04:01:20
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Fw: Fw: Fw: when I grow up[Ditto/Genealogy
    2. James T Rountree
    3. Ditto!!!!!!!!!! Looking for Garrison/Mclendon, Davis/Lovingood, Downer/Bullard, Ard/Hall, Harris/Marlow, just ot name a few here in Georgia. Ann

    06/07/2001 09:43:58
    1. [SouthernTrails] Fw: Fw: Fw: when I grow up[
    2. --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: James A Wyly <mawjaw2@juno.com> Hi, I know this is not pure Genealolgy , but it is what we may hear at reunions and Geneaology workshops. Sometimes we take ourselves too seriously After all, you can take your latest book or report to the Dairy Queen with $5.00 and get a small hamburger and drink, with your Senior Citizens discount. If you can't laugh, at least smile. Charles A. Wyly ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemary Zook <RZook@compuserve.com> To: <Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: when I grow up When I'm an old lady, I'll live with my kids, > and make them so happy, just as they did. > I want to pay back all the joy they've provided, > returning each deed. Oh, they'll be so excited. > (When I'm an old lady and live with my kids) > > I'll write on the wall with reds, whites and blues, > and bounce on the furniture wearing my shoes. > I'll drink from the carton and then leave it out. > I'll stuff all the toilets, and oh, how they'll shout. > (When I'm an old lady and live with my kids) > > When they're on the phone and just out of reach, > I'll get into things like sugar and bleach, > Oh, they'll snap their fingers and then shake their head, > and when that is done I'll hide under the bed > (When I'm an old lady and live with my kids) > > When they cook dinner and call me to meals, > I'll not eat my green beans or salads congealed. > I'll gag on my okra, spill milk on the table > and when they get angry, run fast as I'm able. > (When I'm an old lady and live with my kids) > > I'll sit close to the TV, thru the channels I'll click, > I'll cross both my eyes to see if they stick. > I'll take off my socks and throw one away, > And play in the mud until the end of the day. > (When I'm an old lady and live with my kids) > > Later in bed, I'll lay back and sigh, > and thank God in prayer and then close my eyes > and my kids will look down with a smile slowly creeping, > and say with a groan. She's so sweet when she's sleeping. > (When I'm an old lady and live with my kids)

    06/07/2001 03:09:01
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Polk Co. MO to Hopkins Co. TX/1847
    2. Billy, Thank you for giving me Watson's name. I do not know of him, but there is definitely a connection. Our first immigrant was Rene Caumont de La Force in VA. late 1600s. During the years the spelling of the name has seen many changes and many misspellings. You may have heard of the small town in the Panhandle named Lefors. Also the airport at Pampa is named for Perry LeFors. I will print your e-mail. I may run into Watson or one of his descendants someday. Pat Lefors Dawson

    06/07/2001 06:44:34
    1. Re: [SouthernTrails] Polk Co. MO to Hopkins Co. TX/1847
    2. Billy and/or Sandra Mitchell
    3. Hi Pat, Probably no help at all since I do not know if this guy was a native to Midland Co. Midland,Tx. In the early 1960's , I worked on a WW 1 veteran pilot's airplane. His name, Watson LaForce. Different spelling & pronounced the same. I thought that it mighy give you another place to look. Billy Mitchell

    06/07/2001 02:34:27
    1. [SouthernTrails] Polk Co. MO to Hopkins Co. TX/1847
    2. Dear List, I am attempting to trace a group of travelers who started in Polk Co. MO about the mid 1840s and came into Texas. It has been supposed that they came into Hopkins County, TX. Do any of you know what route may have been taken for this trip. Would they have gone south through Arkansas or into Oklahoma? Evidently they did not find the land that was desired and began a trek to the counties west of Hopkins. We have a record of them paying taxes in Collin County in the early 1850's. Most of them have not been located on the 1850 Census. Would it have been possible that they did not have a permanent residence and just failed to be listed on the Census? Families in this troup were Samuel and Margery LeForce and some of their younger children. Samuel is supposed to have died in Hopkins County, no evidence has been found to prove this. Abasalom and Eleanor Leforce Casebier, Henry and Sarah Hale LeForce and Benjamin Hale. Whitfield Collins LeForce married the daughter of Benjamin Hale in 1851. Benjamin Hale may have been the only one to stay in TX. The others left Texas and went to Benton Co. AR. where other family members had settled. Thanks for any light you can shine on this, Pat

    06/06/2001 06:26:43
    1. [SouthernTrails] Looking For A Book
    2. Carlian Pittman
    3. I am looking for a book "Prairie Shadows". I think the author is Rhenm Richey Graves. It is about people who lived in Comanche Co, Tx. I would appreciate any help you can give me. Carlian Massingill Pittman, carlian@airmail.net

    06/06/2001 03:08:52