Dear Southern Trails, I enjoy youremails and do not mean to add fuel to the recent south-north discussions re the flag, but you may find the following of slight interest because of the obvious use of southern trails by our family. We were in DE in the 1680s, in Spartanburg SC in 1745 (where two gdpas fought at the Battle of Cowpens in the Rebellion against the King), in TN in 1808, in Trigg Co KY in 1811, and in Perry Co, southern Illinois in 1818, at which place gdpa John D. Rees was born, as was my own immediate grandfather in 1887. Any maps or info about these routes would be much appreciated. Thank you, N. Donald Rees Dear Jean, Here is a poor copy of the photo that I mentioned (copyright N D Rees 2001) I will try to do better with other equipment. It was taken in Jackson, TN on 29 Oct 1862 on the way to Vicksburg with General Grant. Standing on the right is our grandfather, Major (later Lt. Col.) John D. Rees, all 5 feet and 4.25 inches of him. Seated is Capt."Harry" Almon, probably John's son-in-law, Worth Almon, who married John and Mary's 2d child Maria Luisa "Eliza" Rees b 1 jul 1845. (18 years later, to the day, her father is about to die on the last day of the siege of Vicksburg). Standing on the left is Capt. Short, John's brother-in-law. He is William B. Short b 1842 and the fourth child, of five, of Jacob Short (Blackhawk War) b ? and Elizabeth ______ b 1804 Names, ranks, and the date are written inside the case and appear to have been done when the photo was taken at Holmes, Booth & Haydens, plus is printed "DAGUERREOTYPE, PHOTOGRAPHIC AND Ambrotype Goods, Of every description." All in different type styles, of course. I also have a photo of the Perry Co. Blacksmith and friend of John's, the same one that you have in your data, Mr. Tessier, a Fr.-Canadian. You may use the Daguerreotype in your Perry Co. web site, but be sure that the copyright (copyright N D Rees 2001) is shown at all times and in all places. No mass publication anywhere for profit, etc., etc. N. Donald Rees

Charles: You are the person to ask about Wild Bill Longley. The Dallas Morning News article in today's paper says that Longley was hanged in 1878 at the age of 27 and that he was "one of the West's bloodiest pre-Civil War outlaws. I've never been very good at math, but just how bloody a career can someone manage before the age of 10?! And did he enlist near the beginning of The War or the end? Was he just a drummer boy? The Dallas Morning News also has a picture of full skeletal remains for Longley, exhumed in 1998--not just a tooth. In fact, they used his remains to disprove a one of Longley's wild stories that he had been shot in the mouth: "'That didn't happen because he's got beautiful teeth and didn't lose any of them,' Dr. Owsley said." They matched the DNA of the skeleton to the DNA of Helen Chapman, a great-grand daughter of Longley's sister. Still there are no details about Longley's prepubescent crime-spree and that seems like the most interesting part of the story!! :) In any event, it looks like Ted Wax is going to have to give up and do some real research on his Brown family!! Can't blame him for trying to turn his Brown's into Longleys--Brown has got to be the worst name on the planet to research. It's right up there with Smith. Kathy Duncan wyly1@juno.com wrote: > > Hi, > > never heard of him? His life was depicted in the 1950's TV movie or > programs called THE TEXAN. He was born WILLIAM PRESTON (WILD BILL) > LONGLEY and was a veteran of the Civil WarHe was hanged and buried in > Giddings, Texas in 1878The story persisted that the sheriff was bribed to > put some leather harness under his shirt and fake a hanging. TEXAS HAS > NEVER HAD PUBLIC HANGINGS, ACCORDING TO h. GRADY PERRY, State Rep. from > Erath County. The scaffold was prepared as crowds of families gatherred > to watch. Blinds were raised around the actual hanging site. The criminal > was marched in vew of the crowd, Blinds were raised for > privacy,thehanging took place, and the blinds or privacy shields were > dropped after he was pronounced dead for all to see as a crime prevention > and education method. > > Ted Wax of .Gonzales, la. claimed he was a grandson of CAPT. JOHN > CALHOUN BROWN, a prosperous planter of Bienville Parrish , La. This line > followed the idea that a box of Rocks were in Wild Bill's grave in Texas. > BROOKS ELWOOD, Chairman of Genealoogy Dept of Louisiana State > Universith started investigating and somehow got the Smithsonian > Institute interested. They used imaging equipment to find Bill's grave in > Giddings , as the family knew where it was- but his headstone had been > moved as some objected to be buried by a criminal. - moved twice, > according toplats and historians. The Grave was not moved. > > When LSU and the Smithsonian excavated the grave recently, they found > decayed clothing, boot heels (tops had rotted) and a tooth. Bones had > decayed too much to test(?)According to DNA testing on the tooth and > known descendants of Mr. Longley, they are 100% sure this was a Longley, > and 95.something% that it was Wild Bill, not a box of rocks for a fake > funeral. ( I know of one Texas Cemetery where Blacks and whites are > buried in same cemetery, but several graves of white Cattle Rustlers are > buried down the road to themselves. I do not know if they were hanged > legally or by Vigilantes during the days that the Reconstrution days > sheriff and deputies stayed close to the office unless in groups. > > Does anyone have a Geneaology chart which shows these percentages of > accuracy? According to this report, Jesse James DNA proof should be 95% > accurate, decreasing each generation. If it did not , all us Coffee or > Cleveland or Wyly or Sevier or Miller or Harris cousins or Copeland or > Carey or Hipp cousins. would have the same DNA. Any answers? > > Scientists and archeologists and Geneaologists worked on this grave and > family testing for 15 months before issueing their final report. > > The past is fun to read about and profit from their mistakes once we > recognize them, and also for hereditary disease predictions, but I just > wish we would SPEND AS MUCH TIME FINDING OUR SOLDIERS IN KOREA AND > vIETNAM, ALIVE OR DEAD. Ask most Jr. High and many High School kids when > and where was the Korean War and they will askif it was before or After > WW1? I taught 33 years and have been Substituting since 1989. Korea and > Vietnam had many lessons we could learn if we just quit ignoring its > lessons. We did not ride down and shoot Vets who went to Canada to avoid > the draft as some did on both sides , making their own law as they went > along. I did not agree with them but they have the same freedonm to their > ideas as I doo to mine, . > > SOURCE OF LONGLEY INFO; > > Waco Tribune- Herald, June 14, 2001, from Cox News Service, Stphen Krupin > , reporter. > > > Take care, > Charles A. Wyly > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Ah, when the Confederate flag is mentioned - everyones blood pressure goes up. Let me say - I do not want to hear from any Clan member which happened the last time I expressed my thoughts on all of this. At that time I mentioned I had half of my family CSA from Arkansas, and half as Union from TN (originally from NC). I lost one of the Union ancestors, he is buried in Mobile where he died on the march to Andersonville prison. My Arkansas CSA men spent some unpleasant time at Point Lookout Maryland prison.....so....I figure I am a pure American. (Not a half breed or something as the clan member told me since I had "Yankee" blood). I have always respected the Confederate flag, and honored my ancestors regardless which side they fought on. I figure they were all doing what they thought was right - and none of them were slave owners. They just got sucked in to a horrible war - because people were unable to sit down and talk. People were unable to put aside their pocket books and talk about what was right - the end of slavery. It was not the only reason for the war, but a very big part of it. The agression between Northern New England (who got rich transporting slaves to America and then saw the light), and southern slave owners began when they all set down to write the Constitution - the war 1860-1865 was just a final end to the debate.... How so many non slave owners in the south got sucked in is a complicated story. But about the flag - I always felt it should be shown honor for the men who died for it....they were only doing what their ancestors had done during the Rev. War and War of 1812 - fighting for their freedom. But....I finally realized somethng. Think about how a Jew feels seeing Hitler's flag - which was originally a Christian symbol. Or a Chinese or Phillipino seeing the rising sun flag. I don't think the Confederate flag began as a symbol of slavery, but while I still honor it....I do not honor how it has been used in the recent history of our country - as a symbol of a group of people called the KKK who wave it around and shout about the rights of the white race over others. I feel they are the ones who have dishonored the flag. Well, now I will get the hate mail but good gosh folks.....don't we all live in the same country and share a past? How long does it take? Someone mentioned southerners not trusting Yankees....or Yankees making fun of southerners. I am just so happy my ancestors were able to put their guns away after the war, and allow their children freedom to have whoever they wanted as friends, and marry where their hearts took them - even if the in-laws had fought on a different side. I am so proud to have a southern heritage - beginning on the east coast and going througout the south. I think it is much more fun working on southern genealogy than northern - only because it is about MY people. Just had to throw in my two cents..... Mary

Hi, never heard of him? His life was depicted in the 1950's TV movie or programs called THE TEXAN. He was born WILLIAM PRESTON (WILD BILL) LONGLEY and was a veteran of the Civil WarHe was hanged and buried in Giddings, Texas in 1878The story persisted that the sheriff was bribed to put some leather harness under his shirt and fake a hanging. TEXAS HAS NEVER HAD PUBLIC HANGINGS, ACCORDING TO h. GRADY PERRY, State Rep. from Erath County. The scaffold was prepared as crowds of families gatherred to watch. Blinds were raised around the actual hanging site. The criminal was marched in vew of the crowd, Blinds were raised for privacy,thehanging took place, and the blinds or privacy shields were dropped after he was pronounced dead for all to see as a crime prevention and education method. Ted Wax of .Gonzales, la. claimed he was a grandson of CAPT. JOHN CALHOUN BROWN, a prosperous planter of Bienville Parrish , La. This line followed the idea that a box of Rocks were in Wild Bill's grave in Texas. BROOKS ELWOOD, Chairman of Genealoogy Dept of Louisiana State Universith started investigating and somehow got the Smithsonian Institute interested. They used imaging equipment to find Bill's grave in Giddings , as the family knew where it was- but his headstone had been moved as some objected to be buried by a criminal. - moved twice, according toplats and historians. The Grave was not moved. When LSU and the Smithsonian excavated the grave recently, they found decayed clothing, boot heels (tops had rotted) and a tooth. Bones had decayed too much to test(?)According to DNA testing on the tooth and known descendants of Mr. Longley, they are 100% sure this was a Longley, and 95.something% that it was Wild Bill, not a box of rocks for a fake funeral. ( I know of one Texas Cemetery where Blacks and whites are buried in same cemetery, but several graves of white Cattle Rustlers are buried down the road to themselves. I do not know if they were hanged legally or by Vigilantes during the days that the Reconstrution days sheriff and deputies stayed close to the office unless in groups. Does anyone have a Geneaology chart which shows these percentages of accuracy? According to this report, Jesse James DNA proof should be 95% accurate, decreasing each generation. If it did not , all us Coffee or Cleveland or Wyly or Sevier or Miller or Harris cousins or Copeland or Carey or Hipp cousins. would have the same DNA. Any answers? Scientists and archeologists and Geneaologists worked on this grave and family testing for 15 months before issueing their final report. The past is fun to read about and profit from their mistakes once we recognize them, and also for hereditary disease predictions, but I just wish we would SPEND AS MUCH TIME FINDING OUR SOLDIERS IN KOREA AND vIETNAM, ALIVE OR DEAD. Ask most Jr. High and many High School kids when and where was the Korean War and they will askif it was before or After WW1? I taught 33 years and have been Substituting since 1989. Korea and Vietnam had many lessons we could learn if we just quit ignoring its lessons. We did not ride down and shoot Vets who went to Canada to avoid the draft as some did on both sides , making their own law as they went along. I did not agree with them but they have the same freedonm to their ideas as I doo to mine, . SOURCE OF LONGLEY INFO; Waco Tribune- Herald, June 14, 2001, from Cox News Service, Stphen Krupin , reporter. Take care, Charles A. Wyly

Everyone has personal problems. You are the one who chose to aire yours to the world. "James T. Rountree" wrote: > I was raised by a very prejudicial father, a produce of his culture and I > would guess raisin. Strange behavior for people who had Cherokee blood in > their veins. Most know what kind of hardships mixed marriages in that > area incurred. The flag you speak of was made the Georgia flag back when > race was a issue near and dear to too many hearts. It was put there to > keep the nigger (not my choice of word) in his place. My dad was a police > officer. He owned and used I am sure the blackjacks the police force > supplied. One in particular stands out in my mind, the flat jack. A 50 > cent piece or a tad larger bound in leather which could bring a suspect > to his knees and sure to confess any crime. There was the usual whippings > to any black who dared to look,think or act equal. > When my husband died some years ago we had custody of his granddaughter. > Her father is a black man. My dad said now you can raise her white. > I can't change the past or the world but I can work on that part around > myself. I am not racial nor biased, I think we should try and learn about > our heritage and hopefully not make the same mistakes. > My mother's mother was from Telfair Co. Georgia, a Garrison. Her family > like many others fought and died in that war. She never let a winter come > that she did not check on the families that were employed on the farm > they owned. > My line is varied and has good and bad in it, some biased some not all > hard workers that faced many things we can only read about. > Ann in Georgia > > I am searching for particulars on some lines mentioned and will reply to > those also. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Much to my dismay, you are incorrect. I am southern. Geannie42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/13/01 10:23:03 AM Central Daylight Time, > flintlock@kcnet.com writes: > > > A very informative piece of work. We are taught from elementary school > > the name Abe Lincoln. Ask any child who Jefferson Davis was or Robert E. > > Lee? > > I think it depends on where the child went to school. In the Deep South all > children still study Davis and Lee, they are revered as heroes, and rightly > so. Simply as a part of our entire nation's history, that should be the > case, I believe. Many thanks to all who contribute to this list, there are > some fascinating facts coming from all over the country. This list is unique > in that it seems to cover history from all sorts of times and places, with a > goodly helping of coloquialism thrown in, and a great deal of tolerance by > all for the thoughts and feelings of others, whether shared or not. It's > great. > > Linda (Alabama) > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I was raised by a very prejudicial father, a produce of his culture and I would guess raisin. Strange behavior for people who had Cherokee blood in their veins. Most know what kind of hardships mixed marriages in that area incurred. The flag you speak of was made the Georgia flag back when race was a issue near and dear to too many hearts. It was put there to keep the nigger (not my choice of word) in his place. My dad was a police officer. He owned and used I am sure the blackjacks the police force supplied. One in particular stands out in my mind, the flat jack. A 50 cent piece or a tad larger bound in leather which could bring a suspect to his knees and sure to confess any crime. There was the usual whippings to any black who dared to look,think or act equal. When my husband died some years ago we had custody of his granddaughter. Her father is a black man. My dad said now you can raise her white. I can't change the past or the world but I can work on that part around myself. I am not racial nor biased, I think we should try and learn about our heritage and hopefully not make the same mistakes. My mother's mother was from Telfair Co. Georgia, a Garrison. Her family like many others fought and died in that war. She never let a winter come that she did not check on the families that were employed on the farm they owned. My line is varied and has good and bad in it, some biased some not all hard workers that faced many things we can only read about. Ann in Georgia I am searching for particulars on some lines mentioned and will reply to those also.

I am curios about this issue of the war. If it wasn't about slavery, than why were the southern states so outspoken about expansion of slavery in the territories. Why were they concerned about having to add state for state free and slave? What other issues caused them to wish to withdraw from the union? I have southern ancestors who fought in the war. I am comfortable discussing the issues, yet the flag does stand for a group of people who wished to continue and expand an economic system that justified the legal ownership of one human by another, with those owned having none of the rights we all accept as fundamental and granted to us by our constitution. So fly the flag and discuss the issues... let us stand up and say how wrong our ancestors were, to believe that such a system could possibly be consistent with the bold and radical concepts that the declaration and the constitution brought forth. They were men tied to the past, not able to face the tremendous growth through immigration and industrialization that was slowly but surely making their society an anachronism. Would we be a stronger, freer society today if we had accepted the idea that a state had the right to secede? I don't fault them for being victims of their time, their culture and their prejudices, but I do make sure as I educate my children that I try to teach them to avoid that very trap of being locked into the past as we rush into the future and a world that changes every day

I find it hard to understand how it can be that on the one hand a country can champion the cause of one race, while at the same time try to destroy another race. Trail Of Tears? I think this war, like most others were probably more for economic reasons than any other. Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Westsnwest@aol.com> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Flying the Confederate Flag > I am curios about this issue of the war. If it wasn't about slavery, than > why were the southern states so outspoken about expansion of slavery in the > territories. Why were they concerned about having to add state for state > free and slave? What other issues caused them to wish to withdraw from the > union? I have southern ancestors who fought in the war. I am comfortable > discussing the issues, yet the flag does stand for a group of people who > wished to continue and expand an economic system that justified the legal > ownership of one human by another, with those owned having none of the rights > we all accept as fundamental and granted to us by our constitution. So > fly the flag and discuss the issues... let us stand up and say how wrong our > ancestors were, to believe that such a system could possibly be consistent > with the bold and radical concepts that the declaration and the constitution > brought forth. They were men tied to the past, not able to face the > tremendous growth through immigration and industrialization that was slowly > but surely making their society an anachronism. Would we be a stronger, > freer society today if we had accepted the idea that a state had the right to > secede? I don't fault them for being victims of their time, their culture > and their prejudices, but I do make sure as I educate my children that I try > to teach them to avoid that very trap of being locked into the past as we > rush into the future and a world that changes every day > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

<< Now Jerry that is an interesting fact to learn. I am not opposed to a discussion but sometimes it gets old to see so many people get their blood pressure up over a thing we cannot change. >> Well, you know, if more people were willing to listen to the FACTS about the War of Northern Aggression ... maybe we wouldn't be having all this tension over the displaying of the Confederate Flag. The Flag does not represent racism as some would like to proclaim through out the world ... but for me, it does wave as a memorial to my ancestors who died and gave their lives for their belief in states' rights, which by the way, I believe were endowed at the time of annexation into the United States. By holding on to the attitude that we should not discuss things that are uncomfortable, we encourage a lack of tolerance and understanding. To see the Confederate Flag as a racist symbol and the War of Northern Aggression as a slavery issue, only perpetuates that belief. For example, if one knew what percentage of the men who fought and died in that War were actually slave owners ... one would think again about their motivation ... why fight and die for a cause of slavey ... when you didn't have the money to own any? That's because the issue was NOT slavery. In my opinion, this subject is very much related to genealogy, and the migration of ancestors in the post war period. I would think that reasonable people would let the list members speak so that those that gain knowledge will have a better understanding ... and if it is not something others would be interested in ... scroll through the messages or use the delete button. Linda in Texas

In a message dated 6/13/01 10:23:03 AM Central Daylight Time, flintlock@kcnet.com writes: > A very informative piece of work. We are taught from elementary school > the name Abe Lincoln. Ask any child who Jefferson Davis was or Robert E. > Lee? I think it depends on where the child went to school. In the Deep South all children still study Davis and Lee, they are revered as heroes, and rightly so. Simply as a part of our entire nation's history, that should be the case, I believe. Many thanks to all who contribute to this list, there are some fascinating facts coming from all over the country. This list is unique in that it seems to cover history from all sorts of times and places, with a goodly helping of coloquialism thrown in, and a great deal of tolerance by all for the thoughts and feelings of others, whether shared or not. It's great. Linda (Alabama) > > >

Does anyone know what trail would have been used between Virginia and Iowa betwen the 1850s and 1860s. Jannette

My Pickett Family is from New York,Wisconson and Massachutess9sorry about the spelling),later going to North Dakota and then to Oregon. Adams are from Indiana then in Iowa,to Washington Territory,and finally to Oregon. Jannette

Researching the Hogan clan of about 10 related families with slaves which left Carroll Co., Georgia around1850 via wagon and arrived in Texas by 1856 to settle in Upshur County. They were led by Alexander and Ann Upton Hogan. Would like to discuss probable routes including a possiblity of travel through Ft. Smith, Arkansas. Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions. Jeanie Related surnames include MOLTON/MOULTON; in Georgia: BRYANT, AYERS, COLLINS, DYER, MEHAFFEY, MOSELEY, and GARRISON; in Alabama: AYERS, DAVIDSON and TRAMMEL; in Texas: MORROW, GILCHREST and AYERS; in Arkansas: WINNINGHAM, WHISENHUNT.

I don't know, but I would like to know anything about the trail from VT to Iowa for 1856. While obviously not a southern trail, my gpa did drive a team from Rutland to Atlantic, IA in that year. Also, my Rees family emigrated from SC to KY in 1790 and again to So. Illinois (Perry Co.) in abt 1810. Does anyone have maps or info on their probable routes? Thanks, D Rees From: Jantonka@cs.com Reply-To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:14:28 EDT To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Hogan Wagon Train Resent-From: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:17:13 -0600 Does anyone know what trail would have been used between Virginia and Iowa betwen the 1850s and 1860s. Jannette ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

After Iowa they went to the Washington Territory in Klickitat county and then to Oregon. Jannette

Miriam Adams was born in Indiana.I do not know where.She is then found in a 1867 being married to Peter Hunter in Iowa.Census records record her father as being from Kentucky and mother from Ohio. Jannette

Hi, both Adams and Pickett families were in Erath County, Texasin Selden Stephenville, and Pony Creek. My parents & grandparents attended church with some of them. Ring any bells? On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:08:20 EDT Jantonka@cs.com writes: > I have Adams-Hunter-Hendryx-Pickett and many others in my tree anyone > who > would like to talk about this please let me know.Thank you for your > time. > > Jannette > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

I have Adams-Hunter-Hendryx-Pickett and many others in my tree anyone who would like to talk about this please let me know.Thank you for your time. Jannette

Hi, There is a Gordon Rountree Olds- Cadillac dealer here in Waco, Texas Several Davises in Erath and McLennan county Texas- I grew up with some. One ran the Stephenville Airport. One in Waco is a Teacher in Texas State College (Old James Conally airbase and alternate landing site for George W. Bush). Harris- I taught some in Walnut Springs, Bosque County , Texas- they are as plentiful as Mustang Grapes in Texas. Also, Capt. james Wyly, Colonial British Militia , born 17234 in Ireland , a Quaker- he married a Martha Harris born 1733. My present records say they were married here and she was born here. A Wyly- Wright Cousin from Adelaide, South Australia says a James Wyly about the same age married a Martha Harris in an Irish Quaker Community in Ireland. He found this info on a personal research trip. He said Wylys are almost extinct in Ireland and one from Tahlequah, Ok. attended Medical School in Glasgow, Scotland where he had roots.older than the Irish roots. Since you are in Georgia, visit the Traveller's Rest Inn, a Georgia State park (Not Traveller's Rest Town in South Carolina) which Jesse Walton sold to the Wylys about 1812 and they buildt the present Inn with Cleveland help- John Cleveland lived with them. Both he and his son were Habersham County sheriffs. The 4 story Brick building in Atlanta at Peachtree and Pryor, was the Wyly Wholesale Grocery, 1850-1890 . Sherman did not burn it. He also did not burn the Jackson, Miss. City Hall, built 1840's as he knew all Confederate records were in the Masonic Hall in the basement. He returned to his own plantation after the war and refused to free his own slaves for several years. Hall- John Hall was with Jemima Cleveland and her two Wyly children and her Edwards Husband's children and several others . In 1796, Cumberland Gap. Evangelist Edwards was killed and scalpped Elizabeth Wyly hid 2 Edwards children in canebreaks. John Hall married, his wife died, and he married now grown Elizabeth Wyly, so somewhere I have some Hall records. Will check if you see which one you need checked. Halls are all over Texas McClendon- "Mac"McClendon of Erath County, Texas was one of my inspectors in the Convair Factory in Fort Worth, 1950's . His family was from Erath County , Texas. Also, Gordon McClendon, "The Old Scotchman" was a network sports announcer in the 1960's and he owned . Radio KLIF Dallas which has never found the tapes they made of Mobile Broadcasts of the Kennedy Assination. WBAP Fort Worth also taped their broadcansts and the spools of tape were missing for several years. Last year they reported finding them in a dusty warehouse hanging on a high nail. Happy Hunting, Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:03:04 -0400 "James T. Rountree" <jamesr23@juno.com> writes: > Any thing historical to do with the migration of our ancestors would > be > nice. As to the apple falling from the tree, well there are a few > apples > I just soon not know up close and personal. > Lovingood,Stovall/Davis, Garrison/Mclendon/Wall, > Ard/Hall/Harris,Bullar/Downer > Ann in Georgia > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >